I used to dislike it but it is now way closer to the Halo I used to love than current normal Halo.
I wish the MLG playlist in Reach would match randoms vs randoms and teams vs teams.
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I wish the MLG playlist in Reach would match randoms vs randoms and teams vs teams.
Looks like that's what you;re going to get.
Frankie said they'll make sure there's tons of options for matchmaking. Due to the huge demand of wanting a more classic Halo experience in Reach, there's probably going to be a classic, bare bones playlist in H4.
THIIIIIIIIIIIIS
MLG No Sprint Variants make Reach gameplay fun again. The only problem is I keep getting matched up against teams that are super serious trying to make it into an MLG event or something.
The only point he made:
The MLG version has a Sniper and Rockets on a small map, that's better? Okay...
Latvian Hitman
Member
Or just Warthogs in general...
The Librarian
Banned
Speaking of that, I did some digging.
I'm selling my copy of the game. I keep trying to give it another chance, but all that happens when I put it in is my brain swelling up with rage from the inane amounts of bull shit.
Crap maps, crappier spawns on those maps, host advantage, lag, constant quitters, campers out the ass, the terrible bloom system, the lack of balance in armor abilities, people you can't boot who purposely melee you to drop your shields, and the list goes on and on.
I tried my best to give this game a proper shake since release, but the more I play it the more it dawns on me that the online multiplayer is just for ADD morons and little kids. That's not including Gaf, but I have a feeling the HaloGaf people tend to just play with each other or not that much online so they aren't exposed to the insane amounts of monkey crap this games want to put you through to try and muster some fun out of it.
I enjoyed the daily challenges, theater mode, customization, the back drops in campaign, and without a doubt the best soundtrack in any FPS to date. Those things however do not make up for the part of the game you buy it for... the multiplayer.
If anyone is interested in my copy I'm selling it in the buy/sell/trade thread. Enjoy the mess.
Here.
And...
Right hurr.
There are more, and he recently said Reach was his favorite MP experience. I guess things got better?
I agree, Hemorrhage is just awful. The only part of the map you can actually walk around in is your own base and the sides, otherwise you're just sniper/vehicle bait. Every time I get Big Team Slayer there, it's just 15 minutes of DMR cross mapping.
You can counter normal warthogs quite easily, just DMR the hell out of it with a couple teammates and it goes down pretty quick. This doesn't work with the Gauss Hog often though.
It is my favorite Halo MP experience definitely, and yeah it did improve when more playlists got put in.
Also, I think it was A.Shogun who told me to try messing around with some internet settings on my end, and that helped out too. Plus, I got Reach again later on after I missed it, and at that point I had moved to a different state with a better internet provider and was able to enjoy it far more. A.Lockless playlists and my better net provided a much better game that I was pleased with over the other Halo's.
Heaven forbid I change my opinion on a game after I buy it again later on. It's NOT my favorite online MP shooter this generation, but it is my favorite Halo as a whole.
Reagan's BR
Banned
The problem with all of the reach maps was the lack of the sentinel beam. Hopefully Halo 4 will fix that.
i nerini del buio
Member
I had made a good 1-CTF variant of Powerhouse back then when I was still playing Reach.
A - flag
B - pro-pipe (at the end of the short corridor, not where the dmr is in the vanilla version)
C - teleport (bathrooms)
D - jetpack
E - goal
F - shotgun
G - teleport
H - rockets
I - evade
You could switch evade and jetpack with more classic stuff like active camo and overshield power-ups.
I don't have it anymore on my HDD, so if you want to try it out you have to forge it yourself
A - flag
B - pro-pipe (at the end of the short corridor, not where the dmr is in the vanilla version)
C - teleport (bathrooms)
D - jetpack
E - goal
F - shotgun
G - teleport
H - rockets
I - evade
You could switch evade and jetpack with more classic stuff like active camo and overshield power-ups.
I don't have it anymore on my HDD, so if you want to try it out you have to forge it yourself
Better than people camping around corners and at lifts with shotgun and sword with sprint.
There are some nice lines of sight for the Sniper but nothing too make it too powerful and the Rockets are usually out of play fairly quickly especially compared to the Shotgun and Sword who both have enough ammo to kill about a dozen people.
The Librarian
Banned
I never said you couldn't change your opinion. That's why I had it as a question. I was curious given your past comments.
Edit: Lord knows I've changed my opinion on Halo games.
BackdoorBeauty
Member
Shit let me get right on that.
Haha I'm genuinely curious how you hate warthogs
Oh God no. If they make it I will buy one and end up having 3 Xbox 360s when I only need 1. Lol
Franklinator
Member
Rocket Hog sucks
The Real Napsta
Member
If anyone cares:
Halo 1.5 is out.
You need a modded Xbox to play it but its pretty cool.
It has all the OG maps and 13 new maps made by DDS, Insidious and Pwnytar (RIP).
Halo 1.5 is out.
You need a modded Xbox to play it but its pretty cool.
It has all the OG maps and 13 new maps made by DDS, Insidious and Pwnytar (RIP).
I don't enjoy playing it at all, but it's a lot of fun to watch. Good, competetive teams do amazing team work and it's enthalling to watch a good streaming MLG match.
Probably sat in the passenger seat while I was driving
off the cliff
Reagan's BR
Banned
That reminds me. In order for Halo 4 to be good it must contain the civilian warthog.
No joke. I've been waiting for that thing since 2004.
squidhands
Member
I think he's talking about both Warthogs being broken in Reach, not just the Gauss. At least it seems that way. I know I can't ride in it as a passenger if I'm feeling particularly gassy, lest the damned thing flip over seven times.
I think it had to do with initial accessability compared to older Halo's. I got into 3 late, and 1 and 2 I only got access to at friends homes, due to my not having an OG Xbox.
I wasn't great at Reach, but I felt decent/good enough that I could play without going negative for the most part, where in past Halo's I definitely struggled. Customization options were great for Spartan's, and I'm big on customization in games. Once I got it later on the map packs helped in a lot of ways with more enjoyable maps to play on.
There's definitely shit I hated on, as can be shown with previous posts I've made in Reach's thread.
The story also wasn't great, but I found it more enjoyable than other Halo's. I did like firefight with friends. I did like daily challenges.
Plenty to like in the game, and plenty to build up on for going to H4.
They generally do throughout the month, and they generally wait til the magazine has made it around a bit.
Poker Face
Member
wut.
when did this happen?
edit: jk thought it was the HD version of the CE campaign with the carbine and other weapons someone was making
Ok, thanks.
The Real Napsta
Member
April 4th.
This needs to be fixed. Get THC to start a thread/petitiok, make it a thread on MLG and publish an article in THC.That's MLG not 343i, MLG heads in Starcraft and Fighters land so we are stuck with it
Get people to "sign" it by posting, commenting and supporting it. Show to 343....success?
We have to spell out exactly and clearly what we want.
Tighter matchmaking restrictions so players with like skill match each other more often.
Tighter part restrictions. Team of 4 will never face a party of randoms, a party of 2's or a party 2 randoms and a 2.
Randoms can match with parties of 3, other randoms or parties of 2.
Did I miss anything?
Let's organize and make the playlist better.
Also, 3 options for maps rather than 2.
I agree my earlier comments are bombastic looking at them now, but that IS the experience I was having at the game at the time.
I also disliked original Halo, until I ran through it with a friend on co-op last year, and that made me enjoy it more than a solo experience for several reasons.
The only Halo I haven't touched yet is ODST, but I think I'll hit it up here soon int he summer when I have more time since a lot of GAF considers its campaign the best.
i nerini del buio
Member
You could even try moving the teleport here (red dot)
and put an overshield/armorlock/whatever in the bathroom
The Librarian
Banned
Outside of CE its given the most recognition given the hubworld. Definitely worth checking out. It doesn't succeed in everything it tries to do, but it mostly does, and the encounter design is pretty great overall.
Do you have a link to the post or tweet that says we need mlg to do it so I can reference it. Then I can tweet it from the THC twitter.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Oops- didn't 'splain myself fully. My complaint was how completely worthless they are in Reach, not that they are overpowered.
I will look. Not sure if it's a post by Frankie or David or a tweet from Jessica.
Edit: i just retweeted cyren, its from Jessica.
thanks.
Everyone RT! - https://twitter.com/#!/TheHaloCouncil/status/189432755476627456
ps: Frankie and Ellis can get their vengeance and have a tweet storm the opposite way
Fucking yes.
Latvian Hitman
Member
I had misread the intent of your post- but I totally agree about the gauss.
I was actually complaining about how worthless the regular hog is. Damn thing is a deathtrap in Reach.
Yup on all counts. I think the game tapers off toward the endgame, but several of the missons and the hub in particular are really great. And while not as universally praised, I loved Sadie's Story, in concept and execution; fun to find, a good tracker and way to replay them, and they tie into both the story and the gameplay (weapon cache unlocks).
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Eh, my own issues with MLG Halo is more in general, not just Reach. I miss all the wackier weapons like the Gravity Hammer or the Needler, or just the normal weapon/power-up layout like the Overshield and Shotgun on Beaver Creek. I miss the radar, too. I guess that makes me a scrub, but I like that thing. And I miss vehicles! Well, maybe not Halo Reach vehicles...
IDK, I just feel like MLG removes a lot of the diversity and options I liked about Halo, and then on top of that with Reach you got crappy maps and 3x bloomless DMR. Just really unappealing to me, personally.
I feel like I complain too much in this thread. I need to say something positive.
I'm hyped for Halo 4, man, whatever @ those changes.
-It's totally gorgeous
-Campaign is sounding godlike
-Spec Ops sounds like the first real episodic content in...maybe forever
-Movement speed is good again
-Maps built from scratch and not rigged from Campaign
-No AL
-No Health Packs
-2x scope hitscan BR with no bullet spread
-No more Invasion screwing up BTB
The shit is already GOTY (Viewtiful Joe 3 sudden announcement and release notwithstanding)
Agreed with all that H4 hype. It's my most wanted shooter now after the info of it leaked. I'm excited what they will show for E3. Will 343 be doing vidocs like Bungie did with Reach? I'm itching for more.
Zeouterlimits
Member
It may not bear repeating, but I can't but think of instant respawns and frown.
For the most part the game has as very deliberate atmosphere that would be pretty spoiled by playing with a buddy.
If possible, I wouldn't play it Co-Op on your first run either.
For the most part the game has as very deliberate atmosphere that would be pretty spoiled by playing with a buddy.
Ah, ok.
Lol yeah, I don't use warthogs often. Covenant vehicles are better IMO.
Reagan's BR
Banned
Ok serious post this time. I actually really enjoyed dual wielding in Halo 2 but not in halo 3. I suspect that it was because in Halo 2 you started with an SMG and that encouraged you to either grab a two handed weapon or dual wield where as in Halo 3 you started with an AR meaning you had to find two decent dual weildable weapons if you wanted to dual weild thus making it more logical to just find a BR. Plus halo 2 had some cool weapon combos (SMG/PR, SMG/PP, SMG/SMG). Am I the only one who would like to see Dual Wielding return? Maybe have SMG starts in place of AR starts as a voting option against BR and DMR starts?
Zeouterlimits
Member
Not a fan of dual-wielding, hope it stays buried.
NullPointer
Member
Same here. Never seemed to balance well.
Not to mention with Sprint being a base trait (it is a base trait in Halo 4 right?) we may be running out of ways to easily map all the buttons on the controller.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Agreed, dual wielding was the only bad part of Halo 2.