xxjuicesxx
Member
Yes don't throw drop in drop out as a negative ever.
Lets those games that are never ending 4v1 end quicker and be closer.
Lets those games that are never ending 4v1 end quicker and be closer.
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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?
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Zoso Achilles
Member
I finally finished the extreme tracks in trials last night, just wow. I'm surprised my neighbors didn't call the cops I was raging so hard.
As for Halo 4's ranking system, I hope they can find an effective way to adopt the arena system is 1-50 if not to be used. Arena suffered from being confined to one gametype in one playlist, which was clearly unnecessary once it became based on win/loss. Also there was the whole lose your rank every 3 months thing. I feel like arena was a good concept, but it just failed to live up to its purpose due to bad advertising and implementation among other things.
Whatever 343 decides to do, it better be well supported so that it doesn't go down the same path as arena.
As for Halo 4's ranking system, I hope they can find an effective way to adopt the arena system is 1-50 if not to be used. Arena suffered from being confined to one gametype in one playlist, which was clearly unnecessary once it became based on win/loss. Also there was the whole lose your rank every 3 months thing. I feel like arena was a good concept, but it just failed to live up to its purpose due to bad advertising and implementation among other things.
Whatever 343 decides to do, it better be well supported so that it doesn't go down the same path as arena.
It ruins the competitive side of BTB.
Was away watching Game of Thrones but this is exactly what I want. I'll be the first to admit that the previous system had flaws, I hated boosting, so I'm not asking for the numbers to return, at least as they are. I hope you also took note of how well received (or not) the Arena system was; instant and understandable feedback based on quantitative team performance is vital. Just in general, a visual based ranking system is imperative in my opinion.
I finish University in a year, if you don't nail it with Halo 4 I'll come on board to fix it for Halo 5.
Wow, reading back through the thread it seems I managed to spark a pretty engaging and positive debate about one of the biggest mysteries still surrounding Halo 4 multiplayer. Whilst the Starcraft system sounds great (imagine weighting things like team shooting, controlling parts of the map, etc) it also sounds like a lot of work, and by the way Frank's engaging the subject (no disrespect intended at all) I don't think such an undertaking could be done this close to launch.
It sounds like the sort of system that's decided upon early in the development cycle and then perfected over a long trial period.
I am going to keep saying the same thing until they admit it or refute it. Neither has ever happened.
Hahahaha that is awesome
but what if we had a unranked social btb and then had a competitive ranked one too?
Do you remember how Ranked BTB worked out in Halo 3?
Yeeeeah.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Awesome Ramirez, I hope everything goes well.
I was going to talk about ranking systems and so on, but Ram's post put things in perspective, there are more important things lol.
I was going to talk about ranking systems and so on, but Ram's post put things in perspective, there are more important things lol.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Oh, can you please confirm a scaled assist counter? Instead of yes/no crap system we have right now.
I was kidding. BTB is garbage.but what if we had a unranked social btb and then had a competitive ranked one too?
bobs...onGaf
Member
You hear that Elzar? Im taking the crown, and theres nothing you can do about it. Yield Neogaf and I will treat the denizens here at least as well as you did.
ur racist
One of the biggest reasons I hardly play BLOPS is because I ALWAYS get put into someones game. I want to start my own game, not join one where my team is getting slaughtered with no chance of recovering.
And now we will be getting it in H4. Lots of faith in 343 atm.
Steelyuhas
Member
but what if we had a unranked social btb and then had a competitive ranked one too?
Then the ranked one fails hard.
fake edit: beaten
NullPointer
Member
Stay in the game after the match ends. Problem solved.
I shouldn't have to join in a game in progress and stick through getting slaughtered just to play a full game. That's bad design.
ElzarTheBam
Member
No one takes that crown. No. One.
And certainly not that backyard yokel from halogaf aka Bobs'
<3
xxjuicesxx
Member
So you're waiting for people in a lobby by yourself?
That's another argument for a visual skill based ranking system; after all that time this clown could be a middle of the road plebeian.
NullPointer
Member
Well you only have to do it once for the playlist, not for each full game, but I understand you.
But its also bad design to suffer through matches where you're significantly outnumbered. So its a trade-off. At least with drop-in, drop-out when you're getting slaughtered in a match because you're down a man or three help could be on the way. New players can turn the tide of a match as I've witness on many an occasion.
Badass.
ncsuDuncan
Member
No global ranks.
There is no specific "arena" or "ranked" playlist. You go to the Waypoint website and create a leaderboard, then pick which playlist you want to track. Invite gamertags from there, or people can do a search for it from the in-game leaderboard browser (if you allow it to be searchable).
You can change the privacy settings for the leaderboard you create:
Open (Anyone can join instantly. Anyone can see the ranks.)
Closed (Anyone can request to join but must be approved. Anyone can see the ranks.)
Private (Invite only. Only members can see the ranks.)
The system then assigns the leaderboard members a rank using a 1-50 scale, distributing them according to a bell curve. This rank is determined by your trueskill.
An XBL Gold account can only create one leaderboard, but may be a member of up to three. Your leaderboard memberships have no bearing on how matchmaking works.
There is no limit to how many gamertags a leaderboard can hold. The creator has the ability to kick anyone off. The leaderboard lists your stats for the playlist including K/D, number of games played, win ratio, and date of last game played. This helps the admins see if anyone is being boosted or has stopped playing.
You can set the ranks to reset on a specific time interval (1 month, 2 months, etc.) or decide to reset them manually on your own schedule. This doesn't affect trueskill, but each player will be listed as unranked until they complete the requisite number of games in the selected playlist.
Crazy? Probably. I'm sure there are plenty of holes to poke in it. Just started typing and this is what I came up with. I think I just want clans back.
There is no specific "arena" or "ranked" playlist. You go to the Waypoint website and create a leaderboard, then pick which playlist you want to track. Invite gamertags from there, or people can do a search for it from the in-game leaderboard browser (if you allow it to be searchable).
You can change the privacy settings for the leaderboard you create:
Open (Anyone can join instantly. Anyone can see the ranks.)
Closed (Anyone can request to join but must be approved. Anyone can see the ranks.)
Private (Invite only. Only members can see the ranks.)
The system then assigns the leaderboard members a rank using a 1-50 scale, distributing them according to a bell curve. This rank is determined by your trueskill.
An XBL Gold account can only create one leaderboard, but may be a member of up to three. Your leaderboard memberships have no bearing on how matchmaking works.
There is no limit to how many gamertags a leaderboard can hold. The creator has the ability to kick anyone off. The leaderboard lists your stats for the playlist including K/D, number of games played, win ratio, and date of last game played. This helps the admins see if anyone is being boosted or has stopped playing.
You can set the ranks to reset on a specific time interval (1 month, 2 months, etc.) or decide to reset them manually on your own schedule. This doesn't affect trueskill, but each player will be listed as unranked until they complete the requisite number of games in the selected playlist.
Crazy? Probably. I'm sure there are plenty of holes to poke in it. Just started typing and this is what I came up with. I think I just want clans back.
HiredN00bs
Member
It's actually active in every adversarial playlist in Halo 3 and Halo: Reach.
Franklinator
Member
Clans would be great.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
In less then 30 days we're gonna know a whole lot about Halo 4's MP and we'll be like, "Oh, that's interesting!" along with "Wow, fuck this shit"
Can't wait
Can't wait
MrGreencastle
Member
Wasn't that supposed to come to the dashboard like 3 years ago?
This situation sounds familiar.
Poker Face
Member
Is there a reason not to have clans?
The Real Napsta
Member
Make them up.
Squad Slayer.
I will just say everyone is named John Smith.
Don't know why it's a requirement for names though.
Puny god.
Garrett 2U
Member
BackdoorBeauty
Member
Ron Paul seems to have at least one or two issues for everyone that they agree with (anti-war, anti drug-war). Then he goes off the deep end and loses them with something else (gold standard, property rights which lets people deny services based on ethnicity, female right to choose, etc)
I will say this.. the people who follow him seem to be very motivated.
Uh, back to Halo 4? 7 months is still a long time, last I checked.
MrGreencastle
Member
This meme... I don't... hah
Poker Face
Member
lol quit ban, best idea in reach tbh.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
There really needs to be action based on shooting a teammate. So many time I'll get someone that follows me around and shoots me to pop my shiel and let me die.