MrGreencastle
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Armour Lock + KOTH = GOTY
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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?
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Armour Lock + KOTH = GOTY
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ElzarTheBam
Member
Reposting for new page, nothing major to note.
I wish I could get excited by articles discussing composers and scores, but I just can't. It's probably the one aspect of the game that doesn't excite me at this stage. I need to hear the music in the context of the game to really judge it.
Unlike the semi-random weapon spawns which I can confidently say is a terrible addition, even at this stage.
Haha thanks for reposting, wouldn't want to have missed "nothing major"
I haven't read it yet, but I shall, I just wanted to be sarcastic
God damn I just got your... nevermind
ElzarTheBam
Member
It's a communal shower.
Haha thanks for reposting, wouldn't want to have missed "nothing major"
I haven't read it yet, but I shall, I just wanted to be sarcastic
God damn I just got your... nevermind
Dick.
No.
I do agree that Reach has way too many Forge maps in matchmaking. When over half your voting options are non-official maps something's wrong. Forge is a great way to get a new map into matchmaking every now and then to keep things fresh but Bungie and now 343 have really overdone it. Just look at Team Slayer. That playlist has 19 Forge maps in it. 19! And only 14 other maps are not Forge maps. And of those 14 maps 8 are DLC maps which never show up. So there you are, with 19 Forge maps and practically only 6 'normal' maps trying to remember what gray map Precipice is.
I really hope 343 doesn't go overboard with Forge maps in Halo 4 because this is crazy. And I say that as someone who actually likes Forge and doesn't particularly care about how gray they look.
I've played over 9000 games of Halo 3, which doesn't mean shit, but I'm pretty sure that's more than the entirety of 343's development team combined, and worth no less than 343's data (which just killed Squad Slayer as thee henery pointed out). Anecdotal evidence is rarely worthless. Given the abhorrent playlist management by 343, I don't trust any of their abilities. I don't have any better picture of their competence now than I did before they started revealing Halo 4, all I know is right now they're dropping the ball with Reach, and Halo 4 is underwhelming at every turn.
I have the utmost respect for Frankie, but I can't pretend to see it any other way than it is. You can keep your blind faith and trust, I'll keep expressing my opinion, whether it's wanted or listened to or not.
The Librarian
Banned
I almost don't want Forge in Halo 4 so 343 doesn't feel pressured to get any fan-made maps into matchmaking.
Have a separate Forge map playlist and add 2 Forge maps per playlist maximum.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Fucking reposts.
<3
Or better, instead of adding another playlist, re-evaluate and introduce playlists as a weekend speciality, like Halo 3.
MrGreencastle
Member
I said that once and almost got crucified.
I don't even know what we're arguing about, here. I may not share you opinion, but I'm sorry Halo 4 is disappointing you so far, hopefully you'll enjoy it when it is released. I'll just back out now. *tips visor, presses B*
That broom in the closet with a keyboard duct taped to it is going to be working overtime trying to organize all these matchmaking changes.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Tea slurper.
The Librarian
Banned
Yeah, there's definitely ways you could do it, but it doesn't escape the trend that hardly any Forge maps that get into matchmaking are fun to play on.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
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I sort of agree, although there are certain things that I love about Forge: altering spawns for competitive play, moving weapon locations and tweaking gametypes.
A game like Starcraft wouldn't need Forge because Blizzard takes competitive multiplayer as seriously as anyone else would. Bungie, and from the little we've seen I don't expect 343 to change this, don't really care to the same extent.
And also if there are remakes I quite like it when they get the full treatment. Look how beautiful Beaver Creek is; it's just a shame it never comes up in the rotation for me.
MrGreencastle
Member
MLG and ForgeHub always have some really kick-ass content that just seem miles ahead of what's available in matchmaking. Then again... I don't know where they got that content in the first place.
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Reminds me, I haven't received Halo 2 Vista in the mail yet... I wan 2 play dammit!
Blame Homeboyd for that
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
That's the odd thing. I liked forge, but I rarely use it. I usually make a map or two when the game comes out to play around, then I never use it.
I would be fine with Forge going away, unless it has some major new pieces to it. I don't think I can take playing 18 forge world maps back to back in Halo 4.
Zeouterlimits
Member
It's a really good one, arguably the best he has done yet.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Microsofts press site
Blue Ninja
Member
"Thats cool, and its inspiring that people are that passionate. I love that about humans. We overcomplicate things all the time, but theres something very beautiful about that."
This guy knows what the fuck is up.
Gabotron ES
Member
This, add only THE BEST maps to the other "normal" playlists.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Hahaha it's unlike you to make good jokes
Dick.
Is his name Richard or are you just being rude again?
For me it wasn't that they started working in fan-made maps, my issue with Reach was that there were 8 launch maps beisdes Forge World. 2 of those were mainly for invasion. So you got 6 maps, and the rest are maps Bungie made in forge world. To me that's just lazy, you'd think you'd want to make memorable maps with unique textures and scenery.
I'm not too worried about 343 because even the little I've seen of Wraparound looks 10x better than any default map on Reach.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Reflection says hello.
ElzarTheBam
Member
ha..Ok i'll give you that one, it was a decent map, but with it being so saturated with forge world maps you hardly get that one. It just felt like to me that bungie said screw it it's our last halo lets just build a bunch of forge world maps inside of unique ones...
Tha Robbertster
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The Librarian
Banned
Really amazing.
Reflection is turrible.
Interesting
Hypertrooper
Member
Ice-Cream amazing or Pizza amazing?
Eating pizza and Ice-cream while driving a monster truck amazing.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Eating pizza and Ice-cream while driving a monster truck on the back of a T-Rex amazing.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Icecream Pizza?
Eating pizza and Ice-cream while driving a monster truck on the back of a T-Rex amazing and Miranda Kerr feeding you grapes.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
They admitted to using Forge World to save time because they couldn't create multiple skyboxes and levels with unique geometry and whatnot inside the time they had. There was even a debate on here with folks discounting Forge World Bungie map made because they were made in Forge. The ill-feeling towards these maps has existed even before Reach came out.
I'm usually very vocal in my criticisms of Reach but I'd like to turn that on its head for just a moment and appreciate some of the shipping maps that Reach does very well.
Boardwalk - is an enjoyable 4v4 or 5v5 Slayer, 1-Flag or 1-Bomb map. It's pretty solid but maybe not spectacular. It should never have been forced into BTB. The map is really consistent with good settings.
Countdown - another solid map that maybe has too many power weapons in the default layout. I don't Objective games on this map but it's a pretty solid Slayer experience.
Powerhouse - I actually don't think the map at all. But many others do. A lot of folks will agree it's a pretty solid Slayer/1-sided Objective map.
Reflection - again, another solid Slayer map and 1-sided objective. The map does drop in quality when the gametypes allow Armour Abilities, particularly jetpack, to over run it.
Zealot - I can't stand this map, but like Powerhouse, it does have it's fans. I guess it depends heavily on the settings and tweaks and gametypes (and making sure the abuse heavy top isn't used).
Reach isn't a total washout. It makes me sad however that the number of decent or good maps are so low. An the BTB shipping maps are not even worth talking about. The DLC has certainly helped the map situation but the way DLC is implemented in matchmaking means that after the honeymoon period is over with each DLC release, the mixing of the DLC maps is such that you'll rarely get a chance to play them optimally.
Reach is probably going to be remembered for it's poor map offerings with the one good thing about that is the fact that we're not likely to ever see a Reach remake map pack any time soon.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I see what you did there.
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