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Mister Negative
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Aggrotek
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I don't think something has to be a necessity to be in the game.
edit: I also don't think it will make that big of an impact. You are still extremely vulnerable, and it's just a pistol. Not like its a Scattershot or some shit.
bobs...onGaf
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It could allow for some pretty heroic flag caps, im kind of looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
Then again I miss the days when in Halo 1 I could just drive myself back to base whilst holding the flag, so I kind of know my opinion on Objective is skewed to favouring individuals rather than teamwork, which kind of goes against the mode.
I'm failing to see why its a bad thing.
Just a bunch of complaints like 'ugh', and 'I don't like it', with no explanation.
K
kittens
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Just saw everything. Holy shit.
There are those who said this day would never come. What have they to say now?
Congratulations Hyper.
YourExWife
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I liked how first thing Joss did was lay a big one on Summer's lips. Smart/lucky man.
ElzarTheBam
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Oh my.
Probably because having to push, slay, trap spawns, and protect a defenseless flag carrier is the foundation of CTF in a Halo game.
So now you do all that and the flag carrier isn't totally defenseless.
QQ less
You guys all bitch about player empowerment, but when its barely applied to the flag carrier its suddenly not ok. Make up your minds.
Tha Robbertster
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Bad things announced:
-Having AA's return
-Random weapon spawning mechanism
-Unnecessary white text
-Perks
-No grenade pick up without a certain perk
-Sprint being standard
-Being able to use the pistol while carieng the flag.
-Being able to spawn with the plasma pistol
-Only 10 non forge multiplayer mapps on release.
Good things:
- Spartan Ops sounds fun
-Campaign seems to have an interesting story
That list doesn't really make me hyped.
Aggrotek
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It's a pistol. Which from what we've seen is probably as useless as it is in Reach. Not to mention the fact that you probably lose the ability to do this if you have 2 primaries.
Taken the liberty of highlighting the subjective ones.
From the clips, the Pistol still looked like a formidable weapon. Similar to Reach's, I guess, but not enough to take down a BR/Carbine/DMR user. It isn't useless, however, like Halo 3's piece of junk.
No grenade pickups off dead bodies isn't bad. It's great. No more grenade spam.
10 maps also isn't that much less than we've gotten in past games. Halo 2 had 12, and Halo 3 had 11. Now if you argue there's going to be 9 DLC which makes it low overall, then I agree.
bobs...onGaf
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I think it will be a lot of fun, but yeah potentially at the expense of strategy. I can see it being a bit too powerful in something like MLG. I wonder if it can be turned off? The competitive modes can leave it out whilst the more arcadey modes can keep it. Considering the animations have to be designed around it I doubt it would be toggleable but it would be nice if it was.
I don't even see why Bungie put that popcorn shooter in Halo 3. :/
Steelyuhas
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Zoso Achilles
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That's just how I feel, no in depth explanation here. I find I completely unnecessary to have to have a weapon while carrying the objective; it basically says to me, "you guys can't work together as a team well enough to cap the flag or get time with the ball? That's cool, you can use your pistol to kill people if you make a bad route choice."
The other thing is people saying, "no big deal, it's just the crappy pistol." WHY!? Why is the pistol so bad and why is everyone ok with this? If the goal really is to make it a gimped useless secondary weapon, at least give it a quick draw like every other shooter so it can be used to clean up a kill when you run out of ammo on your primary.
Aggrotek
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The Librarian
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You should've higlighted the entire list then, lol.
Mister Negative
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the Reach pistol isn't useless. Not even close. The Halo 4 pistol is better than the Halo 3 pistol from what we've seen, and that's all it takes. All you need to do is be able to put shots in people and your teammates will be able to finish them off.
Life.
This is such a lazy way to announce that you're going to ignore someone's opinion based on some fantasy world you're placing them in.
Believe it or not, some of these guys are fine with change that makes sense, just maybe not the particular one they're arguing against.
I think there's a way to argue against points without putting them in some "they hate everything!" hole to be ignored.
Aggrotek
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You don't think he has a point?
bobs...onGaf
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I dont see why it gets so much hate on here, the thing is decent, its sad to see the Pistol be so weak, but I can still kill AR users with it and thats the main thing. If im playing against bad players I can usually use it to defend myself against BR users which I cant do with an AR, so as far as im concerned im glad the thing is in the game.
After all the 'crappy' Halo 3 Pistol has the same shots to kill (and im sure time to kill) as the Pistol in Reach.
Vire
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It's not lazy. What's lazy is saying "UGGHHH THEY ARE RUINNING HAAAAALOOOOOO."
Without offering valid reasons why. I can probably count about 30 of those types of posts in the past 15 pages.
To be fair, I'm not clumping everyone in this category since there are a few who offered decent reasons why.
Mister Negative
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I dont see why it gets so much hate on here, the thing is decent, its sad to see the Pistol be so weak, but I can still kill AR users with it and thats the main thing. If im playing against bad players I can usually use it to defend myself against BR users which I cant do with an AR, so as far as im concerned im glad the thing is in the game.
After all the 'crappy' Halo 3 Pistol has the same shots to kill (and im sure time to kill) as the Pistol in Reach.
I'm sure it would've been a decent weapon if the Halo 3 netcode allowed you to hit more than half of your shots with it.
The Librarian
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You didn't highlight the SpOps and Campaign points. Both of those are subjective too.I did.
Hydranockz
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'Classic' Halo (or Halo)is Halo without anything new. Stripped down. Is it new? Well you better hope it somehow takes away from exiating randomness for a more refined experience.
RIP Halo.
Aggrotek
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I was only focusing on the negative things lol
Steelyuhas
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I dont see why it gets so much hate on here, the thing is decent, its sad to see the Pistol be so weak, but I can still kill AR users with it and thats the main thing. If im playing against bad players I can usually use it to defend myself against BR users which I cant do with an AR, so as far as im concerned im glad the thing is in the game.
After all the 'crappy' Halo 3 Pistol has the same shots to kill (and im sure time to kill) as the Pistol in Reach.
Except that it took about a damn minute in between each shot, there was no scope, and it was absurdly inaccurate. I've never seen a more useless weapon in a game than the H3 Magnum.
Tha Robbertster
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I know they're all subjective, but that's why it's my list. Those are all the things I don't like the sound of that are in Halo 4.
bobs...onGaf
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You could throw the kitchen sink at someone, but if Halo 3's netcode was having a tantrum it would do no damage.
Perks and armour abilities co-existing in the same game isnt subjective lol, it sucks.
Yeah agreed, I still think it was a good tool against AR users though. I mean at range the thing sucked, but close range it allowed me to ignore my AR and stay alive until I found a BR which was nice lol.
Pre-match Magnum in Halo 2 wrecked in dual wield. Post patch it was weaker, but still decent with SMG.
Hydranockz
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Gabotron ES
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Loving all the panel reveals, game is looking good.
Aggrotek
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Oh I forgot about dual wielding...
Was just making light of it. No offense intended.
Vire
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Zoso Achilles
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I'd rather not just blindly accept change that doesn't demonstrate an obvious improvement to the game. All we can do is wait and try this stuff out, sure, but I've played enough games to get a good sense of what I like in Halo. So maybe instead of trying to pass off a group of people as "haters" you should come to the realization that everyone has a different opinion of what constitutes the perfect halo game.
Steelyuhas
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There hasn't been anything said about Spartan Ops.
In Blade Runner the main character basically enhances the shit out of a photo to see a reflection of someone in a photo or something.
Zoso Achilles
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Yeah it'll be on waypoint. Frankie touched on it earlier in this OT.
Tha Robbertster
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Well.... people still play Halo 3, so there's that
Netcode brah! And I imagine more people leaving after Halo 4 hits. But I guess you'll find me and Bobs playing enough Halo 3 after 4 hits.
None taken, Just wanted to clatifie I knew my list was subjective.
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