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Hydranockz
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I quite liked the UI for SpOps. The tags were listed horizontally. It'll be curious to see if and how things change before launch.
Bregmann Roche
Member
I agree with most of Striker's post. I don't think that plasma grenades as part of loadouts are that big of a deal, but the PP could be annoying.
The single biggest need for BTB is map quality. There is not a single BTB map in Reach that I like. Breakpoint would be nice if it didn't have Reach's terrible vehicles.
Or, you know, you could say something intelligent.
I think it'd be pretty interesting if Chief had 6 months of downtime and sun tanning before Halo 5's story began. But as we learned with First Strike-to-2, really important stuff will probably be written in and Halo 5 will start off with a weird, unexpected event.
Hope I'm wrong.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Good maps are also a point for which I'm worried. I don't think we've played on a map made by 343 yet. I hope we'll get some small maps too. All the maps we've seen so far seem pretty big when you compare them to Sanctuary or Guardian.
Is it true that somebody at 343 said Haven is the smallest map in Halo 4?
Is it true that somebody at 343 said Haven is the smallest map in Halo 4?
I'll make intelligent posts about matchmaking decisions when matchmaking decisions start being intelligent.
One of them said the mech map is a "small" map at E3. Looks pretty huge to me.
Hypertrooper
Member
You forget the fact that Sprint is a permanent ability now. Maps have to be bigger because of the movement. We are talking about movement as fast as Halo 2-3 and we have to add Sprint. Haven/Adrift is small in these terms.
Hydranockz
Member
Sprint being available to everyone has impacted the size maps need to be. This is good design.
Edit: Kartoffel
This isn't necessarily true.
Striker's post(for example) sparks discussion, yours do not.
Hydranockz
Member
Elite Slayer on BTB should ruin vehicles as people can spawn with plasma pistols, yet it seems to work fine. People 'can' spawn with PP but not everyone will.
If I'm not beat yet, but it's simple. A torn up Hog will easily be killed by a plasma grenade in one toss. Now if you add in Plasma Pistol and its ability to EMP, it's going to get crazy bad. Go play Elite Slayer and see if any vehicle activity is enjoyable. It's just vehicles getting EMP'd and grenaded.
Guardian was tiny as shit. Sanctuary is a pretty good size for 4v4, though, and that was pre-sprint.
I reckon we'll see more maps that are larger because of sprint and these new specialties. Also why I'm not too thrilled on getting many remakes, as they're often not the same under new settings and without OS/Camo.
The Henery
Member
There's nothing classic about a 5 shot BR....
I know what you mean though. Halo 4 looks much better equipped to be able to emulate real Halo than Reach ever was. Remember the first 'classic' list we got with Reach? Needle rifle starts, bloom, no bleedthrough and exclusively grey maps. Lol, real classic.
Since when did intelligent posts get much attention round here? They might get a few responses but not much. Inflammatory posts at least garner Halo talk. A post like Kyle's there, I can appreciate that. You know why? It's about Halo in the Halo thread. I've found myself entering the thread with 15 pages to catch up on; the last few weeks I've skimmed through, there's so much horseshit about nothing. I've resorted to scrolling looking to the avatars to see whether I should give the post my attention, which I don't want to do but am forced to due to the sheer volume of juniors they let in.
Sometimes, it's like the chat on the sidebar of a Twitch stream in here. And you single out Kyle for his Halo posts?
Hydranockz
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You're not too bright if you think people's problem with Kyle's posts are that they are about Halo.
Also, fucking lold when you said intelligent posts don't get noticed as you take part in an intelligent discussion on BTB :lol
Are you a very recently approved member of neogaf?
Approved today, this is my first post on NeoGAF. Thought it appropriate seeing as HaloGAF is the reason I joined the forum.
What country are you posting from and whats your current age.
United States; 30 years old
At what age did you get into Halo and with which game.
I was 19 and a sophomore at university when Halo CE came out. A friend of mine visited for the weekend and brought his new Xbox, 2 controllers, and the game. I was hooked forever after that.
For how long have you been reading HaloGAF?
Around 3 months. As far back as the official HaloGAF Montage Reach Edition (the one where the Tashi Ceiling is pointed out in detail).
Whats your absolute favorite Halo campaign? And your favorite multiplayer?
Favorite campaign: Halo CE. Before Xbox Live my younger brother and I played countless hours of this campaign. We had a spreadsheet with all of our best times and would spend hours shaving seconds off of our best times.
Favorite multiplayer: Halo 3. After school I lived 2 years in China (travelled a bit as well). The week I moved back to the states I ordered an Xbox 360 Elite and Halo 3.
Highest Halo 3 level and which playlist.
46 in Swat, 45 in Team Slayer, mid 40's in other lists like Big Team. Hit around 35 in MLG. Numbers might be a bit skewed as I generally play 90% of all matchmaking going in alone.
AR or BR?
Is this really a debate or question. In Halo 3 many players first route was to Sniper or Rockets/Laser. My route was always to the closest BR.
Absolute favorite multiplayer map from Combat Evolved, Halo 2 and 3 (just one from each).
Halo: CE: Sidewinder
Halo 2: Waterworks (or Tower of Power on Ascension)
Halo 3: Construct (or Guardian/Narrows/The Pit/Valhalla/Last Resort)
Least hated Reach mp map. (excluding Anniversary pack)
Tough question. Zealot...? (current matchmaking Arena Zealot variant). This was a depressing question to answer. Looking at the map list for Halo CE, 2, and 3 it was really hard to pick a favorite. The same list for Reach presented the opposite problem. Every single map brings up a frustrating memory.
Do you prefer BTB or MLG? (pre-Reach era)
I split my time pretty evenly between BTB and MLG pre Reach. Now I favor BTB because the skating rink of MLG gives me too much headache.
Competitive multiplayer or Firefight?
Competetive.
Games completed on solo Legendary.
All but Halo Wars (never played). Other than Wars I have every single Halo achievement possible.
What are some of your favorite Campaign missions.
The Library; hands down favorite in all the games. Other than that anything from CE (due to nostalgia) and The Great Journey, The Ark, Halo, Coastal Highway.
Favorite Reach playlists.
I spend most of my time now in BTB, Objective, Snipers and SWAT. Used to play some Arena (450+ games), but got tired with it.
Opinion on reticule bloom.
Is not Halo. A visual representation of when your gun is ready to fire again is fine; the random spamming and arbitrary luck introduced with 100% DMR bloom is frustrating.
Opinion on Armor Abilities and the one you usually end up picking.
Wish they weren't a part of Halo. In Reach I use Sprint 99% of the time... Have used others to get achievements, not much more. Halo to me was a pure arena style shooter; armor abilities mucked up that formula.
Why are you a Halo fan?
The story is interesting and the gameplay, even Reach, is still so much different than other shooters on the market. Team shooting, strategy in objective, the skill involved in a 4SK/5SK, weapon and vehicle sandbox, and the physics all make this franchise unique and different than others. I still play a lot of BF3 and I used to play a lot of COD (4/MW2), but nothing pulls me back like Halo. In Halo games I feel myself want to win. In other games winning is secondary to lulz, ranking up weapons/vehicles, etc.
Favorite HaloGAFfer, and least favorite (besides Dax).
I enjoy this community (at least reading/lurking) because of the discussion. Spent a lot of time in my days on Bnet and Waypoint and it's only marginally possible to have any type of real discussion in either location.
Now feel free to introduce yourself and/or share anything you want so we get to know you better, some of us would enjoy reading it.
I play with a headset and usually cannot use a mic. People without mics used to annoy me to no end until I got married and realized gaming time is often when my wife is asleep (ergo, no yelling callouts, grab the FLAG!, or ONE SHOT ON MY X).
I'm an architect, I live in the midwest, and I have run a small music blog for the past five years as a hobby. It used to be profitable when I devoted more time to it, but now I only post 2-3 times a month (The World Forgot).
Approved today, this is my first post on NeoGAF. Thought it appropriate seeing as HaloGAF is the reason I joined the forum.
What country are you posting from and whats your current age.
United States; 30 years old
At what age did you get into Halo and with which game.
I was 19 and a sophomore at university when Halo CE came out. A friend of mine visited for the weekend and brought his new Xbox, 2 controllers, and the game. I was hooked forever after that.
For how long have you been reading HaloGAF?
Around 3 months. As far back as the official HaloGAF Montage Reach Edition (the one where the Tashi Ceiling is pointed out in detail).
Whats your absolute favorite Halo campaign? And your favorite multiplayer?
Favorite campaign: Halo CE. Before Xbox Live my younger brother and I played countless hours of this campaign. We had a spreadsheet with all of our best times and would spend hours shaving seconds off of our best times.
Favorite multiplayer: Halo 3. After school I lived 2 years in China (travelled a bit as well). The week I moved back to the states I ordered an Xbox 360 Elite and Halo 3.
Highest Halo 3 level and which playlist.
46 in Swat, 45 in Team Slayer, mid 40's in other lists like Big Team. Hit around 35 in MLG. Numbers might be a bit skewed as I generally play 90% of all matchmaking going in alone.
AR or BR?
Is this really a debate or question. In Halo 3 many players first route was to Sniper or Rockets/Laser. My route was always to the closest BR.
Absolute favorite multiplayer map from Combat Evolved, Halo 2 and 3 (just one from each).
Halo: CE: Sidewinder
Halo 2: Waterworks (or Tower of Power on Ascension)
Halo 3: Construct (or Guardian/Narrows/The Pit/Valhalla/Last Resort)
Least hated Reach mp map. (excluding Anniversary pack)
Tough question. Zealot...? (current matchmaking Arena Zealot variant). This was a depressing question to answer. Looking at the map list for Halo CE, 2, and 3 it was really hard to pick a favorite. The same list for Reach presented the opposite problem. Every single map brings up a frustrating memory.
Do you prefer BTB or MLG? (pre-Reach era)
I split my time pretty evenly between BTB and MLG pre Reach. Now I favor BTB because the skating rink of MLG gives me too much headache.
Competitive multiplayer or Firefight?
Competetive.
Games completed on solo Legendary.
All but Halo Wars (never played). Other than Wars I have every single Halo achievement possible.
What are some of your favorite Campaign missions.
The Library; hands down favorite in all the games. Other than that anything from CE (due to nostalgia) and The Great Journey, The Ark, Halo, Coastal Highway.
Favorite Reach playlists.
I spend most of my time now in BTB, Objective, Snipers and SWAT. Used to play some Arena (450+ games), but got tired with it.
Opinion on reticule bloom.
Is not Halo. A visual representation of when your gun is ready to fire again is fine; the random spamming and arbitrary luck introduced with 100% DMR bloom is frustrating.
Opinion on Armor Abilities and the one you usually end up picking.
Wish they weren't a part of Halo. In Reach I use Sprint 99% of the time... Have used others to get achievements, not much more. Halo to me was a pure arena style shooter; armor abilities mucked up that formula.
Why are you a Halo fan?
The story is interesting and the gameplay, even Reach, is still so much different than other shooters on the market. Team shooting, strategy in objective, the skill involved in a 4SK/5SK, weapon and vehicle sandbox, and the physics all make this franchise unique and different than others. I still play a lot of BF3 and I used to play a lot of COD (4/MW2), but nothing pulls me back like Halo. In Halo games I feel myself want to win. In other games winning is secondary to lulz, ranking up weapons/vehicles, etc.
Favorite HaloGAFfer, and least favorite (besides Dax).
I enjoy this community (at least reading/lurking) because of the discussion. Spent a lot of time in my days on Bnet and Waypoint and it's only marginally possible to have any type of real discussion in either location.
Now feel free to introduce yourself and/or share anything you want so we get to know you better, some of us would enjoy reading it.
I play with a headset and usually cannot use a mic. People without mics used to annoy me to no end until I got married and realized gaming time is often when my wife is asleep (ergo, no yelling callouts, grab the FLAG!, or ONE SHOT ON MY X).
I'm an architect, I live in the midwest, and I have run a small music blog for the past five years as a hobby. It used to be profitable when I devoted more time to it, but now I only post 2-3 times a month (The World Forgot).
I'd rather have some off-topic discussion while we wait for new info than dick-waving about how you're better than juniors.
Aggrotek
Member
Yea sorry, I played a while and then it was like 11:00 so I went to bed. My bad.
Hypertrooper
Member
I just wanted to ask when Nexy would upload this.
ElzarTheBam
Member
YourExWife
Member
So I was playing with biggy last night and it just occured to me that he might still be voicebanned. I'm an idiot.
Also, can the weather just stay this way all day?
Of course it won't. High nineties incoming...
Also, can the weather just stay this way all day?
Of course it won't. High nineties incoming...
It's all in the pinching.
Hi.
How long have you been a member of NeoGAF? How long have you lurked?
Was approved yesterday, have lurked on and off for a few months. Discovered HaloGAF from HBO.
How old are you? What country or state are you posting from? (Optional)
40. United States.
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
Got an Xbox when it first came out, but as my daughter had just been born, I found I didn't have time for it, and sold it having barely made it out of Pillar of Autumn. I got back into console gaming with 360 & really into Halo with Halo 3, but didn't start playing much multiplayer until the very end of H3's lifespan. Dirty secret: I've never played H2.
What is your favorite playlist?
BTB
Favorite Campaign Level
The Covenant
Favorite Multiplayer Level
Guardian, probably because it was the first one I played (see above).
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
Attorney. Aspiring sci-fi author. Terrible at video games. Terrified by Elzar's stalking.
How long have you been a member of NeoGAF? How long have you lurked?
Was approved yesterday, have lurked on and off for a few months. Discovered HaloGAF from HBO.
How old are you? What country or state are you posting from? (Optional)
40. United States.
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
Got an Xbox when it first came out, but as my daughter had just been born, I found I didn't have time for it, and sold it having barely made it out of Pillar of Autumn. I got back into console gaming with 360 & really into Halo with Halo 3, but didn't start playing much multiplayer until the very end of H3's lifespan. Dirty secret: I've never played H2.
What is your favorite playlist?
BTB
Favorite Campaign Level
The Covenant
Favorite Multiplayer Level
Guardian, probably because it was the first one I played (see above).
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
Attorney. Aspiring sci-fi author. Terrible at video games. Terrified by Elzar's stalking.
The Henery
Member
You can't be too bright if you're think I'm taking part in a discussion on BTB... where are these posts that I'm currently making on BTB?
Also, to be fair, I didn't say they don't get noticed I just said they seemingly get fewer responses than off hand lol posts from Kyle. The same people respond to his posts over and over and over. There's shit in this bloated thread far more worthy of your and everyone else's ire.
I don't think I'm better than juniors. I still consider myself a junior in relative HaloGAF terms. I like it when juniors get approved, unlike a lot of HaloGAF. It's the sheer amount and frequency over the last few weeks that's become tiresome. There were about three pages back there just full of junior surveys. You can't really keep track of each individual poster. It also makes an already 'runaway train' of a thread impossible to keep up to date with. Whatever, I'll live.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Oh snap! Finally a worthy junior (sorry Doctor Banjo).
Welcome! Enjoy your stay OLD MAN.
Der Flatulator
Member
Bregmann Roche
Member
Plasma grenades in Reach's Elite Slayer are a special case. Elites have giant hit-boxes and player inertia makes it very difficult to sidestep a sticky. In addition to those things, Elites take so many shots to kill that many players decide that it is easier to go for the evade-evade-stick approach.
I doubt that all of those things will be present in Halo 4. If it's true that players can't pick up grenades off of corpses unless they have a specific armor mod then that makes sticky grenades even less of an issue. Someday maybe I'll play the game and my opinion will actually matter.
I usually try not to respond to most of his posts now because its just falling in the same trap arguing with him about his bitching over the same things repeatedly.
Over is much more succinct in making his points, regardless if I disagree with them or not.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
So any word of direct feed gameplay out of 343? Be nice to watch it on my comfy couch.
The Henery
Member
Winning. Learning. Adapting.
Wouldn't be a Halo 4 video without idle chatter and announcers on PA's drowning out the audio.
For the folks who initially reacted negatively to the H4 Grunt designs, how do you feel after seeing them in motion, in game?
Poker Face
Member
Halo 4 official marketing from 343:
BTS: Making of Halo 4
BTS: Music
Live action trailer from E3
Infinity trailer
Is there anything I missed?
edit: point of post: we probably won't ever get a direct feed
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I'm really hoping you're locked out of PP starts if you try to pair it with a headshotting weapon.
If not, this could pose a problem.
If not, this could pose a problem.
Hydranockz
Member
Apologies, I thought you had responded to Striker. Note the lack of needless inflammatory posts in the discussion you were posting in. That was my point.
I try to make up for it by being completely immature.
Cannot. Wait. SpOps is easily the feature I'm most excited about for H4 - playing the missions with my friends early in the morning and then later with my kids.
Hypertrooper
Member
The Commission Trailer contains Singleplayer Direct Feed stuff...
Doubt it.
I hope they toned down the homing on the PP blast, or removed it completely; because they won't prevent you from starting with it... ever most likely.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Well, it's not the starting with it I have a problem with, so long as it's not with a headshot weapon. But yeah, if they toned down the homing a lot, that would be a start.
Every match will just turn into a bunch of green lights and buzzing followed by DMR/BR swap. Rinse and repeat.
Poker Face
Member
hasn't been officially released tho. i really liked how things were going when the BTS trailer was released, but it's been really odd since then. especially when GI came out.
i know we'll get an HD version of the trailer, but we have yet to get something like the starry night trailer
Chad hasn't worked at 343 for some months. But Kyle still needs a name to pin on someone not making the precise thing he likes, so he can post enthralling inflammatory posts, because they are the only things that spark discussion (which finally explains those little kids in high school who would sit in puddles or act out in the cafeteria) so I have invented a fake playlist manager named 'Marcel.'
Marcel likes plasma weapons exclusively and his favorite historical game type is 1:1 CTF on Blood Gulch with 50% speed and full invis for both 'teams'
Marcel L'Adapteur.
With vehicles, at least outside the Ghost, the homing isn't really that useful, at least to me, since they're very large targets forced to move through very predictable routes without much in the way of lateral dodging abilities. In something like Invasion, almost all my PPing to vehicles is done outside lock range to vehicles, just by leading the target or getting closer. The EMP was a novel idea, but when everybody can start with it, it becomes a little scary to think about. Loadouts are something I've come to embrace in light of the playlist management issues the series has had, and I think they'll be neat, but I hope there is some amount of curation.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Ghost Busters should be a thing.
That was some of the most fun I've had in HaloGAF customs.
Hypertrooper
Member
It has officially been released?
Well done lol
Poker Face
Member
the original BTS making of Halo 4 trailer.
squidhands
Member
I assume there will eventually be Spartan Ops scoring, medals, etc.
Hypertrooper
Member
Wait? You told me that the Singleplayer gameplay footage was not released officially. It is. But what are you trying to say now?
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