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nillapuddin

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Can anyone else with Halo 2 Vista check the MP, I havent been able to see the servers this week?

Doing my Legendary run, makes me hate this game I love so much.

We all want Halo 2 Anniversary so bad, but Im going to be honest with myself, i cannot see it ever happening.*

I think this game just simply isnt polished enough to release anymore, the fact that legendary by default is a quadruple-slaso-jackalsniper-nightmare out of the box doesnt help either.

Completely broken is the only way any Halo fan would want it, I just dont know how everyone else would feel about it.



* without a lot of work, and probably the game being "patched"
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I wish I knew where we stand on Halo 4 as far as information given. Like, is what we know now 80% of what the game will be, or is there going to be a megaton or two before launch that makes all we know now seem like peanuts.

I really want to know how the Theater has been improved. Video rendering? Party viewing (coming back)?
 
Has it been mentioned that Theater is improving or changing at all? I don't recall anything, or else I'd have flipped out.

I don't think they have mentioned theater at all. Personally, I don't expect any changes, although an upload to youtube would be awesome.

We will hear the podcast about the sandbox in the next week or two, and that should shed some light/fill in the gaps about the sandbox.

Going to bed right now, will probably finish Cryptum with the heat going on here. I don't know if it's ever taken me longer to finish a 300 page book. :/
 

FyreWulff

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I really want to know how the Theater has been improved. Video rendering? Party viewing (coming back)?

You can now scrub through the film's timeline using Microsoft Glass.


I can deal with rendering to Waypoint if the links to the videos actually work and it's free.

Speaking of Waypoint and files, I wonder if Halo 3 or ODST will ever have file shares on there or if our Halo 3 content is just in limbo now.
 
Video rendering alone would make me very happy. Upload to YouTube would just be icing on the cake.

I can deal with rendering to Waypoint if the links to the videos actually work and it's free.

Speaking of Waypoint and files, I wonder if Halo 3 or ODST will ever have file shares on there or if our Halo 3 content is just in limbo now.

I don't think they'll ever bother, honestly. Or at least not for a while. Waypoint is hopeless, lol. It needs a massive overhaul, start from scratch.
 

TheOddOne

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Since 343 removed Elites as playable characters in the MP and others questioned them for it, they gave a hint to another playable character as replacement, but to what we can only wonder. Maybe the concepts of warrior class forerunners in Halo: Legends Origins Part 1 or The Didact in Origins part 2? It's difficult to guess what 343 has veiled atm.
You're getting mechs. A LOT OF GUNDAMS.
 
Since 343 removed Elites as playable characters in the MP and others questioned them for it, they gave a hint to another playable character as replacement, but to what we can only wonder. Maybe the concepts of warrior class forerunners in Halo: Legends Origins Part 1 or The Didact in Origins part 2? It's difficult to guess what 343 has veiled atm. Here's to wishful thinking what could be possible:http://www.halopedia.org/Promethean
In addition:http://www.halopedia.org/Warrior-Servant
Playable Flood for true Zombies gametype.
 

FyreWulff

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I can deal with rendering to Waypoint if the links to the videos actually work and it's free.



I don't think they'll ever bother, honestly. Or at least not for a while. Waypoint is hopeless, lol. It needs a massive overhaul, start from scratch.

Always loved ODST's stats, especially the circle-stat-thingamabob
 
That option exists, it's a perk called "firepower" that allows you to choose two primary weapons. Why would they shit all over that perk by allow some (the ones you'd probably want to use) primaries as secondaries by default? Not to mention that is terribly inconsistent design to have a small set of weapons that are both primaries and secondaries.

Couldn't disagree more and I'm guessing this has to do with the philosophies we believe in. I see firepower as choosing two powerful primary weapons such as a DMR/Shotgun, BR/DMR, not BR/AR. Also, I would see it as taking a dump all over the automatics then because unless they kill significantly faster than the precision rifles at close range (which in reality would cause a lot of people to complain that "newb-friendly" weapons are OP), they just won't be used.

We have no idea what build that Game Informer played, and I take that comment as basically, stuff isn't final, and is subject to change. I take all impressions from places like Game Informer with a grain of salt because with the possible exception of one or two, those guys don't continuously play Halo MP for years after it's out. They are simply not hardcore expert Halo players. (And shouldn't be expected to be, their jobs require that they play a lot of different games in order to cover them, they probably aren't experts on any single game or franchise.)

I wasn't referring to the impressions by Game Informer at all actually. I was referring to the impressions of when MLG players (beginning with the release of the GI info) started posting tweets about how incredibly broken multiplayer will be with PP's as secondary weapons, then 343 saying that it's subject to change, it's not final, etc etc

As for the AR's use as a primary, I think you'll be surprised by how many players use the AR as a primary (as you said, what seems like obvious choices to players like you and I are not always so for the majority of the player base). Sure, a lot of the hardcore players won't use the automatic weapons, but I think Firepower will be used by a significant number of hardcore players to use AR and Storm Rifle as secondaries though as the Magnum looks fucking terrible.

idk man, I seriously doubt it lol - The Pistol is a headshot weapon that many people agreed it was a good "sidearm" to finish off a kill when you run out of ammo. The same can't be said about the AR, especially at ranges.. Why would hardcore players choose an AR/Storm Rifle over a Carbine or other precision weapon or even a Shotgun?


Thanks for the debate, but passing the f- out!
 

zap

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Can anyone else with Halo 2 Vista check the MP, I havent been able to see the servers this week?

Do you have an XBL Gold Family account? If so, Halo 2 Vista won't work for that account, you'll have to make a new silver account.

Upload to Youtube? Talk about getting hopes up.

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Try read the thread first next time
 
I don't think they have mentioned theater at all. Personally, I don't expect any changes, although an upload to youtube would be awesome.

We will hear the podcast about the sandbox in the next week or two, and that should shed some light/fill in the gaps about the sandbox.

Going to bed right now, will probably finish Cryptum with the heat going on here. I don't know if it's ever taken me longer to finish a 300 page book. :/

I feel like the podcast is just going to be them talking about their philosophies of what makes a good sandbox, which I will gladly listen to, but I doubt it will really reveal anything new.
 

Fotos

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I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.
 

Ken

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I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.

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I think you're reacting a little too extreme because one person told you it was posted already. Sure, I think the way zap replied could be a little harsh and could be more politely worded, but I'm sure he didn't mean to be hurtful or condescending.
 
I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.
Reconsider this post... Just adapt and try not to get banned.

Edit: Also there's plenty of other topics/off-topic threads and communities within NeoGAF to venture and communicate.
 

Fotos

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:<

I think you're reacting a little too extreme because one person told you it was posted already. Sure, I think the way zap replied could be a little harsh and could be more politely worded, but I'm sure he didn't mean to be hurtful or condescending.

thats not why... just from being on this thread for a few months I've seen a lot of instances like that
 

Myyke

Neo Member
I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.

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Seriously though, yeah there are assholes here, but you'll find assholes in all walks of life. Best thing to do is just ignore them and not take things to heart, confrontation on the forums will not end well. Hell, my first experience in-game with some HaloGAF members ended with me being bitched at and labeled a "retard" for going to town with my double beatdowns. I just made a mental note that these people deserved to be double beat-downed at every possible opportunity if I ever played with them in the future and moved on with my life.

Just to note, I haven't actually played with any of those particular guys since that day (which was over a year ago), apart from Overdoziz, but everyone knows he's an asshole.
 

zap

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:<

I think you're reacting a little too extreme because one person told you it was posted already. Sure, I think the way zap replied could be a little harsh and could be more politely worded, but I'm sure he didn't mean to be hurtful or condescending.

Yup, this.

Sorry if I came off harsh, but it was posted literally 2 pages back. This thread moves fast, but at try to at least skim over the last couple pages before posting.
 
I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.

I am better than you, I didn't stoop so low as to assume everyone here spends all of their time on their computer, especially since I've gotten to know a bunch of people here. Best way to make friends is to generalize everyone here, yup.
 

Shadders

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We all want Halo 2 Anniversary so bad, but Im going to be honest with myself, i cannot see it ever happening.*

I think this game just simply isnt polished enough to release anymore, the fact that legendary by default is a quadruple-slaso-jackalsniper-nightmare out of the box doesnt help either.

Completely broken is the only way any Halo fan would want it, I just dont know how everyone else would feel about it.



* without a lot of work, and probably the game being "patched"

I think Halo 2 would better suit a Director's Cut than any of the other Halos. We know missions were cut and the story was changed and only the most stubborn purists would complain about some tweaks to the Legendary difficulty.

They'd have to ship the original campaign in any Anniversary edition, but the main event should be a new "fixed" version of Halo 2. They could try and get Bertone or Greissemer on board to add a bit of credibility for purists.
 

TheOddOne

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I think Halo 2 would better suit a Director's Cut than any of the other Halos. We know missions were cut and the story was changed and only the most stubborn purists would complain about some tweaks to the Legendary difficulty.

They'd have to ship the original campaign in any Anniversary edition, but the main event should be a new "fixed" version of Halo 2. They could try and get Bertone or Greissemer on board to add a bit of credibility for purists.
I wonder how people would feel about a non-canon type Halo 2 release, the original vision that was intended without looking at the fiction created from then on.
 

Ryaaan14

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I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.

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Hell, my first experience in-game with some HaloGAF members ended with me being bitched at and labeled a "retard" for going to town with my double beatdowns. I just made a mental note that these people deserved to be double beat-downed at every possible opportunity if I ever played with them in the future and moved on with my life.
Haha, that reminds me of this one time where a few Halogaffers and I went into Squad Slayer and won several games using only melees. T'was hilarious.
 

Heh. I forgot to mention we're better than waypoint and that other shit thanks to the mods taking out the trash when necessary. If I wanted to read some blubbering immature stupid Xbox live type shit I wouldn't be here nor think HaloGAF is pretty damn awesome.

Cheers to my HaloGAF buds who've been here a while and aren't douchey*.

*juices
 

Shadders

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I wonder how people would feel about a non-canon type Halo 2 release, the original vision that was intended without looking at the fiction created from then on.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. I suppose it's a really difficult thing for MS to sell though. It's much easier to say "Remember that game you LOVED ten years ago?! Well now you can love it again with all the HDs you can eat!" than "Remember that game with the awesome multiplayer and average single player!? Well now you can play it again! Except without the multiplayer! And instead of the average single player we've replaced it with a better single player. But the new single player isn't canon. IN HD!"

I would like to see a Halo 2 as was originally intended even if it's not canon, but I can see that it's a really muddy call for Microsoft to make.
 
Since 343 removed Elites as playable characters in the MP and others questioned them for it, they gave a hint to another playable character as replacement, but to what we can only wonder. Maybe the concepts of warrior class forerunners in Halo: Legends Origins Part 1 or The Didact in Origins part 2? It's difficult to guess what 343 has veiled atm. Here's to wishful thinking what could be possible:http://www.halopedia.org/Promethean
In addition:http://www.halopedia.org/Warrior-Servant
Just no. Just fucking no. Get out.

Destiny awaits.


It was incredibly thrilling to watch. I wish I'd woken the kids for it. :(
It was amazing until NASA did "America is the best! We did whole work, screw world". It was a global project. Nationalities only exist on this planet. We will be Humans outwards of the Orbit. Still Urk's tweet was pretty good. Damn I need those destiny shirts.

All I care about is an upload to YouTube function. Please make it happen, 343. That's all I care about.
Youtube? Nah. The Call Of Duty uploads have such an awful quality. Give me a render stuff like Bungie Pro.
 

Ryaaan14

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I remember when I was a Junior and was too afraid to post in HaloGAF because of the amount of respect I had for the place. Now Juniors just trounce in here using existing memes and treating every regular like they know them already. That's what is causing a mess.

Fuckin NeoGAF threads on Waypoint man. Guh.
 
Juices is harmless. Elzar on the other hand.

Nah I'm just kiddin'. I love juices even if he's an asshole. In fact I love most of halogaf, even the people who fight with each other because everyone here puts up with my shit in game. What I don't like is all these new people stirring the pot and shitting everywhere.

(The new people who don't do this shit are cool, we cool.)

Man I'm so wasted.
 

TheOddOne

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Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. I suppose it's a really difficult thing for MS to sell though. It's much easier to say "Remember that game you LOVED ten years ago?! Well now you can love it again with all the HDs you can eat!" than "Remember that game with the awesome multiplayer and average single player!? Well now you can play it again! Except without the multiplayer! And instead of the average single player we've replaced it with a better single player. But the new single player isn't canon. IN HD!"

I would like to see a Halo 2 as was originally intended even if it's not canon, but I can see that it's a really muddy call for Microsoft top make.
Indeed. Microsoft will question why they are putting so much money on something that needs a whole new dedicated team (I highly doubt that 343 main team is working on something else besides the Reclaimer trilogy) to create new levels, new story, new characters and more. Why not create a new game, it doesn’t have the stigma of “it’s a HD remaster” and you can market it more easily.
 

Flipyap

Member
Since 343 removed Elites as playable characters in the MP and others questioned them for it, they gave a hint to another playable character as replacement, but to what we can only wonder. Maybe the concepts of warrior class forerunners in Halo: Legends Origins Part 1 or The Didact in Origins part 2? It's difficult to guess what 343 has veiled atm. Here's to wishful thinking what could be possible:http://www.halopedia.org/Promethean
In addition:http://www.halopedia.org/Warrior-Servant
The thing you don't seem to realize is that these dudes would be twice as tall as a Spartan. That's not going to happen.
 

Myyke

Neo Member
It was amazing until NASA did "America is the best! We did whole work, screw world". It was a global project. Nationalities only exist on this planet.

A bit of an exaggeration there I think Hyper, but considering the mind boggling amount of effort, dedication and hardcore maths involved to do what they have just done I think a bit of back-patting is understandable.

Also:

07.20 Nasa's administrator, Charlie Bolden, is now giving a news briefing on the landing. He describes the mission as beginning to "blaze a trail for human footprints on Mars".
He says there are four different countries on Mars, referring to collaborators that have worked with the US. - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/9454930/Curiosity-Mars-Landing-as-it-happened.html
 
The Henery is too busy making godzilla-Jackal comparisons.

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Why do good maps like this http://www.twitch.tv/underradar411 (splash) make it into tournaments but we get so many garbage forge maps in MM?

Saw that map and thought it looked splendid too. Had a bit of colour to it (well as much as can be expected in forge).

The old MLG map, Element I believe it's called? That map is like the arena maps of old in Halo (Wizard particularly), small, faced paced and simple. Plays great. Would 'they' dare make a map like that anymore in Halo though? I can't imagine seeing a map like that at launch.

Yes. An ethnic group to be more specific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

All this talk of Gypsies reminded me of a documentary entitled 'My Big Fat Gypsy wedding'. Recalling the 'gender dominant physical gestures' thread from a few weeks past, I thought you'd find the phenomenon of 'grabbing' an interesting watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAbiFuhsLTY

This girl expresses her dismay at the practice of 'grabbing'... then ends up marrying the grabber a year later (lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYSCpd_KqqY&feature=player_detailpage#t=28s

Le sigh.



Never, ever liked the Laser.

It was objectively used a lot though.

Upload to Youtube? Talk about getting hopes up.

It doesn't sound that unreasonable to me considering Black Op's did it in 2010, their first attempt at a theatre mode to boot. The biggest obstacle I can see to it is the fact MS is so maniacally insistent on forcing the use of Silverlight, which Youtube of course doesn't use.
 

Arnie

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How can someone who made such a moronic comment on the second picture, make such a beautiful one on the Splaser picture.

Bring back 1-50, or adequately replace it. Still we have radio silence.
 

Striker

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All I care about is an upload to YouTube function. Please make it happen, 343. That's all I care about.
An upload to Youtube or some other site is the only thing I think will push it as an "improvement". Party viewing? Don't care. Need something big.

How can someone who made such a moronic comment on the second picture, make such a beautiful one on the Splaser picture.

Bring back 1-50, or adequately replace it. Still we have radio silence.
Ranking system is something pretty controversial no matter how you slice it. There's simple things I've yet to know about, and just base things off pure speculation. Where's the gametypes? Is it just CTF, Oddball, KotH, and Regicide? Is BTB going to give player's liberty to choose DMR/PP/plasma nade loadouts? Vehicle health?
 

Omni

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I wonder how people would feel about a non-canon type Halo 2 release, the original vision that was intended without looking at the fiction created from then on.

Ew. I'm pretty sure I read at one point that they were planning to have Miranda put bombs on the Master Chief or something ridiculous like that.

I used to think that the people here on these treads were cool until i realized that a lot of them seem to be a-holes that think they are better than everyone else. All you do is sit at a computer and comment all day on this thread. your no better than anyone else on here or waypoint.

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Ranking system is something pretty controversial no matter how you slice it. There's simple things I've yet to know about, and just base things off pure speculation. Where's the gametypes? Is it just CTF, Oddball, KotH, and Regicide? Is BTB going to give player's liberty to choose DMR/PP/plasma nade loadouts? Vehicle health?

I don't understand why 1-50 is controversial. There's nothing wrong with the system, it's the jerks that abuse it that are the problem. The fact of the matter is that it keeps people playing far more than simple progression does. There's a sense of actual accomplishment when you get a 50 because it's not just grinding away at the Cr bar.
 

Omni

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I don't understand why 1-50 is controversial. There's nothing wrong with the system, it's the jerks that abuse it that are the problem. The fact of the matter is that it keeps people playing far more than simple progression does. There's a sense of actual accomplishment when you get a 50 because it's not just grinding away at the Cr bar.

But those who can't get a fifty don't like to be constantly reminded that they're bad... or something. /Bungie's reasoning.
 
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