HiredN00bs
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TrueSkill has nothing to do with actually forming matches. It can make a poor match if there are no restrictions and the pool is sufficiently low.
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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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YourExWife
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hahahahahahahahahaha
Did Condemned ever get above 970 GS?
Why, when Halo 2's is so much better?
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Devolution
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You joke but at least Bungie tried to provide some sort of ranking system in Reach with the Arena. Regardless of it's flaws, it still gives players competitive games if you invest time in it. For someone that doesn't have the time to invest in learning everything MLG and wants a close vanilla Halo competitive environment it works. Regardless of what people say.
So far 343 has avoided all discussion about competitive playlist(s) or a ranking system in Halo 4, and instead invited competitive players to test out a couple maps that are too big for 4v4 and would never be played in a proper competitive playlist.
To be fair they did get to work on the strategy guide, with a MLG event also if that's anything. I hope at NYCC they announce something for the competitive diehards of the game via skill ranks.
HiredN00bs
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While a carrot for some, a visual ranking system won't be necessary to improve skill matching if the playlists are pruned, populated, and adequately restricted.
Yeah, but there hasn't been any talk about that either so I assume it will still be like Reach.
My main point was that at least Bungie tried in Reach to bring back competitive without numbered ranks. I remember reading a 3 page article in some random magazine about how Reach "Arena" was going to revolutionize competitive Halo. Maybe it was in Wired. I can't remember.
But it'd help, right?
Playing on the Halo maps help a lot lol
but yeah a few thing I like that they added from the Halo games. Shooting grenades in air or idle ones on the ground, melee lunge (can even semi-duplicate the sword glitch) and the 3hsk pistol.
Steelyuhas
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Ranking systems historically (in Halo) are one of the top factors to decrease a playlist's population.
NobleGundam
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Hey GAF, can anyone help this Jr. grade 1 scrub find a full image of the E3 banner Halo 4 concept art? Thanks :3
Shake Appeal
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I guess they've given up on that and settled for a non-competitive metagame where everyone is constantly a winner.
Huge resource hog? That can't be anything besides spectator mode! I mean, what costs more bandwidth than creating that?
Ajemsuhgao
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They already said no to that though. Hmm, so 3 biggish things that made it in but aren't announced. What could those be? I really can't think of any ideas. Maybe they aren't all new, but additions to existing features? Something new for Theater? Some new big edition that made it into Forge? I got nothin'.
Shake Appeal
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Frankie was probably referring to particularly ambitious moments in campaign.
Yup. Even if all other settings are the same (including party configuration), ranking a playlist always drops it's population.
This is pretty much why you're never going to see ranked Objective ever again.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Hey everyone,
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
Since Halo 2. It's still my favourite, possibly because I played it first! Mind you one of my favourite Halo experiences was revisiting the CE campaign last year...
Sorry if this is too long! Be gentle...
Welcome. Sorry to hear that you started with Halo 2, but at least you started before Halo 3 :]
Curious question, hoping for an honest answer:
What Halo game are you the fondest of?
I been meaning to add you actually after that night in someone's (I think juices or exwife?) stream, so let's play sometime ho - add me
Just tell me beforehand if you want to play serious.. I think I made ExWife and Zoso frustrated the other night when I was blasted, running out poopin on scrubs, not caring about holding positions on Condemned lol - good thing we had so much POWER on our team ;]
K, diarrhea of the mouth.. May or may not be sober typing this message so excuse me peepz but I think ima finally go watch the last episode of Gungrave.
Anyone have feedback on this game?
I remember skimming through the thread, reading this and it made no sense since I haven't seen those vids.. I randomly stumble upon the RUL vid much later and remember how Frankie said that same thing in the Griffball Hub interview, THEN noticed someone quoted you posting the RUL link so I was going to quote you and post this comment with it...........
..but what do I find?
An answer to a mystery from earlier that I never expected to discover an answer to.
BROLIC post is BROLIC
BlindSwordsmanZ
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Yawn. I was saying hipster before hipsters knew that hipsters were hipsters. Hipsters.
User 73932
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I just bought this murder miners game. Multiplayer vid looks awesome.
Barrow Roll
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I might've considered Murder Miners, but I'm 20 MS points short. Oh well.
slashmysoul
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Thank you
. lol yeah I feel I was a little late for the halo party, but back when CE came out all my time and money went on guitars; I had nothing left of either to spend on gaming.So it has to be Halo 2 for me, simply for the sheer amount of memories I have of playing multiplayer with a group of drunk friends all through the night, and the many hours I invested online when I finally got an XBL account. Ah that game was a welcome distraction through some difficult times!
That's your honest answer
User 73932
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Mech assault mode.
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Epic 8 on 8 Mech battles on Sand Trap remake.
The Henery
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I remember an article like that. I think it was Joe Tung talking about how 1-50 was actually too good at accurately placing players between the numbers. 1-50 was too good, you heard it folks.
Amazing Mic
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I think Arena would have fared slightly better if their divisions were divided 20-20-20-20-20.
I always got the impression some H3 generals ended up in the gold division in Reach, bitched and moaned about the settings, then went and played vanilla slayer.
Having half of your population in the lowest division was never going to help keep your less-than-uber-competitive players interested. Ranks either have to be force fed or buffed to make everyone feel good, otherwise you'll end up with those low pool numbers that destroy matchmaking.
I always got the impression some H3 generals ended up in the gold division in Reach, bitched and moaned about the settings, then went and played vanilla slayer.
Having half of your population in the lowest division was never going to help keep your less-than-uber-competitive players interested. Ranks either have to be force fed or buffed to make everyone feel good, otherwise you'll end up with those low pool numbers that destroy matchmaking.
HiredN00bs
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Not sure what your point is, since I search with Good Connection and Language priorities in Team Slayer--the most popular list--and still get matched with them. That's an indicator that skill matching restrictions are there.
The Henery
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Oh? Fair enough then.
I mean if it's bad for you in America, it's really bad for a UK player. I too choose good connection (in team snipes, 1000-2000 players roughly) and get Mexicans all the time. It's funny, I went through a streak of correctly guessing if a Mexican was in the game based purely on the Mexican connection instinct. It's its own unique breed of bizzaro land latency.
I remember that too. Those were the days.
bobs...onGaf
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Thanks man!
EDIT: Im really tempted to pick up murder miners myself, im going to try the trial first but its like they just went and remade Halo 1 judging on that video, very cool if so.
Off topic - Jeez changing the WLID associated with my GT is one giant pain in my ass. Apparently my email addresses are not in the same region, even though I chose "Australia" when making them both. Egh.
Does anyone have bigger versions of these concept art pics? I'm looking for a new desktop wallpaper, and they aren't quite big enough.
Does anyone have bigger versions of these concept art pics? I'm looking for a new desktop wallpaper, and they aren't quite big enough.
StalkerUKCG
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This is kind of interesting. I was looking at the profile of that guy who "totally has Halo 4 achievements", and I found this:
He returns
Im out the loop, Care to explain?
Hydranockz
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This is kind of interesting. I was looking at the profile of that guy who "totally has Halo 4 achievements", and I found this:
He returns
Are we meant to know this guy?
He was part of (my) batch of awful juniors. No need to bring him up again
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Hydra you going to Eurogamer Expo? If so, which days?
Hydranockz
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Ah right
Gotcha.I can't afford to go to Eurogamer Expo sadly. Tis a mighty shame though.
Hypertrooper
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The digital game art magazine Vertex by Ryan Hawkins is definitely worth a read if you are digital artist. Furthermore the first issue is interesting for the normal Halo fan because Ryan sat down with 343i's lead concept artist Nicolas "Sparth" Bouvier. A great person who talks about his approach to the universe, his inspiration sources etc. The best thing? Vertex is available for free!
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