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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains

NOKYARD

Member
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Promethean armor confirmed!
 

lybertyboy

Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
only if Ellis gets on.

but seriously, sorry, my xbox is updating real quick. got caught up talking about houses and shit that I'm going to buy soon!

I'm getting on now.

Just have to plug in my dev kit and boot up Halo 4.
 

Karl2177

Member
Quoted for new page. Quality post, Karl. <3

Can't decide which is more need of fixing: the speed of Waypoint, or the way it presents its information. As it is a stats site, probably the latter.
I would definitely prioritize the UI. For all we know, there could be Waypoint stats integrated into the game itself; which having a unified process could be helpful. I've just been completely underwhelmed with Waypoint while I've been developing my own stats program. So the big thing in going to put in that is ease of use.

Enfinit: I knew they were working on an upgrade, but I completely neglected to bring that up in my post. I also knew that you posted on the forums(which are also in need of improvement), but I don't know of what all is needed there. I only post there when there's an outrage over GAF getting news.

On an unrelated note, I'm about to watch the newest MIB movie. <3 free movies
 

FyreWulff

Member
I wish they hadn't made Bungie turn off their feed to the fileshares. Waypoint is a total bitch about properly linking to files.

You have to find the file, then click "send via email", then copy and paste the NORMAL LINK THAT SHOULD BE THERE ON THE PAGE out of your email client to a field, then hope there wasn't An Error Processing Your Request when you send that link to someone else.
 
I might really really want Taco Bell - but Long John Silvers and Burger King each have 3 votes already when I vote... So I choose BK. I didn't actually want to go to BK, but the public nature of the vote skewed my data.

but Long John Silvers and Burger King each have 3 votes already when I vote...

but Long John Silvers

Thanks a lot. Because of you. I had a craving for Long John Silvers. So that's where I stopped for dinner. It was deliciously horrible, and I blame the way I feel right now on you.
 

FyreWulff

Member
For those that care, let's talk about stat tracking for Halo 4. As all of us know, Waypoint is pretty poor. It's not good at organization, speed, and/or linking. Not to bash too hard on their webteam, (mostly because I don't know the restrictions and requirements from the folks at Microsoft) but it is in dire need of repair. I think simplicity is the key for them to look at, similar to the MP design team. They need to get the core of the tracking and the UI in order for it to be successful.

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This is not simple. It is a clusterfuck of information.

How can it be improved? For starters, remove the "All games" section. You should also be able to distinguish what is Matchmaking and what is not(custom campaigns, firefights, and multiplayer). After that, Firefight is essentially unlimited Campaign, and multiplayer is vastly different from either of the AI based modes. Once you have AI and MP distinguished, you can then branch out those modes. "Arena" is no longer a separate beast from "competitive", it has simply become another playlist. Add in a playlist sort feature with checkboxes (so you can lump certain similar playlists together). Add a map sort feature so I can see what maps I need improvement on. Maybe add the feature of map-viewing, so you can put in global and personal heatmaps, and possibly Atlas integration.

It will be key to make the UI experience as easy as possible. That will be crucial if some of the extras that I mentioned are added. Achronos and the bungie.net webteam did a stellar job with giving us information in a simple design. We were spoiled too much by Bungie. There were clear and concise ways to get to your service record. Waypoint's ways to get to your service record(and for that matter what the service record is) aren't clear.

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Unnecessary redundancies in the main Waypoint menu.

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These medals are incorrect. It shows a Hell's Jerome medal in the Hell's Janitor position.

Next on my agenda is medals. We've seen a vast amount of medals for Halo 4, whether some of these are actual medals or just white text, I don't know. But if we are going to have Distractions, I want to see how many times I've distracted an enemy.

Adding to this, it can be possible to truly see what type of player someone is better than commendations and the Waypoint awards. If these medals from in-game can be properly translated, then you can see how that player actually functions. Are they a ranged player or a close quarters player? Do they use vehicles or kill them(or both)?

As shown in the picture above, it's also going to be key to get the medals correct.

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I never want to see this again.

The speed at which you can access your stats is atrocious. To access it in-game, it is a maze of menus. Make both speedy. Make both easy to navigate. If it is a Microsoft requirement that it use Silverlight, then I guess there's not a bunch you can do. If possible, drop the Silverlight. It is slow and also makes you install Silverlight to a computer. Let's say you're at work and want to check out your stats. You can't without installing which may be against your company's policies.

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This happened while I was getting screens for this post.

Lastly, the linking. Have you tried linking to a file share? Have you tried linking to someone's game history? Have you tried linking to a Waypoint news article? If the answer is yes, then you've probably had some issues accessing restricted content. Restricted content that is publicly available... That's not correct. A box specifically for a link to the content would be nice and a good solution.





*Oh and an API for developers would be nice.

Fascinating.

Check your PMs
 
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