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Halo: Reach |OT7| What are They to Say Now?

TheOddOne

Member
kylej said:
Already sounds 500 times more interesting than actual Halo books. Or campaigns.

Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't had a Halo or Call of Duty porn parody yet.
No doubt there is a "This is not a Call of Duty XXX parody" incoming. I just know it.
 

feel

Member
kylej said:
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honest laugh out of this :lol
 
TheOddOne said:
No doubt there is a "This is not a Call of Duty XXX parody" incoming. I just know it.

Call of Booty.

Starring Alexis Texas.


kylej said:
juices you getting on this afternoon I need to beat kids up I'm grabbing lunch then I'll dong thank you sweetie

Cya in ten sweetie.

Gym Tan Dong, get on Halo. Gotta win 12 games at least.
 
daedalius said:
Oh boy, secondary xbox just RRODd on me.

Oh well, what should I expect from a launch 20gig, heh.
I don't know if I'm lucky or not, but I've never had a 360 die to lights of any kind. I have had DVD drives end up faulty in different ways though. One stopped reading discs, the other had a faulty tray that wouldn't open.
 

daedalius

Member
So was bungie just trolling us with the absolute lack of AV weapons on some BTB maps other than a single token plasma launcher (on hemorrhage)?

Also, what the hell is a counter to a banshee besides your entire team team-shooting it, and a sniper rifle; rocket lock-on is a joke, they just can't track it or aren't fast enough or something, not to mention the acrobatics it is easily capable of. That thing can just rape an entire team if they don't have something to counter it (I've done it plenty of times, and had it done to me).
 

Striker

Member
daedalius said:
So was bungie just trolling us with the absolute lack of AV weapons on some BTB maps other than a single token plasma launcher (on hemorrhage)?
Things to take down vehicles in Hemorrhage: DMR, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Plasma Launcher

Banshee is broken with the horrid maneuvering and banshee bomb. Best thing to take it out is a sniper, or if on map, laser. Unfortunate that wasn't in any of the TU changes.
 

Havok

Member
daedalius said:
So was bungie just trolling us with the absolute lack of AV weapons on some BTB maps other than a single token plasma launcher (on hemorrhage)?

Also, what the hell is a counter to a banshee besides your entire team team-shooting it, and a sniper rifle; rocket lock-on is a joke, they just can't track it or aren't fast enough or something, not to mention the acrobatics it is easily capable of. That thing can just rape an entire team if they don't have something to counter it (I've done it plenty of times, and had it done to me).
You spawn with an antivehicle weapon, to the detriment of game quality. Three guys DMRing a Warthog will have it down in 20 seconds, no problem (this is bad design). The sniper makes vehicle runs nigh-impossible if used right (this is bad design). That plasma launcher is probably the best addition to the weapon stable, which isn't surprising considering it apes half the functionality from a previous great antivehicle weapon. It's not token if you treat it as the high value asset that it is.

Banshees have to be DMRed from distance to stop your aim assist from freaking out. Snipers work, but they're tough to get a bead on. Since rockets' abilities against vehicles were nerfed from people complaining ("They could follow you through windows and turn on a dime!" No, they couldn't.), they're useless as antivehicle weapons now, don't even bother unless it's against a Falcon. Long story short: If the guy is good in a Banshee, you'll end up dying 5 times before he goes down even if half your team is shooting him. Extremely high maneuverability combined with extremely high damage output combined with too high durability for the previous two parameters to make sense. Its a broken vehicle in a surrounding environment of broken vehicle combat.
 
Why can't we have dedis again? Wouldn't a dedi in NH when I play with Over be optimal rather than some random asshole's host in bumfuck nowhere?
 
Devolution said:
Why can't we have dedis again? Wouldn't a dedi in NH when I play with Over be optimal rather than some random asshole's host in bumfuck nowhere?
If the dedicated servers of BF3 are an example at the moment, then god no. But I can't say for sure since Dice promised that it would get better.
 
Devolution said:
Why can't we have dedis again? Wouldn't a dedi in NH when I play with Over be optimal rather than some random asshole's host in bumfuck nowhere?
The dedi would have to be in between you and Over for a better connection surely. You connecting to a NH dedi is the same as now
 
Is there any reason frienly fire isn't off yet in Living Dead yet?
After the fifth betrayal it is not funny anymore, I'm curious to see how many months will it take to 343 to change this.
 

Havok

Member
Hydranockz said:
The dedi would have to be in between you and Over for a better connection surely. You connecting to a NH dedi is the same as now
The difference is that a big server farm is going to have better bandwidth than some redneck in the middle of nowhere that the game decides should host because his buddy wants to run around the map with him as a guest.
 
Devolution said:
Why can't we have dedis again? Wouldn't a dedi in NH when I play with Over be optimal rather than some random asshole's host in bumfuck nowhere?

The only way i can see dedis working effectively is if they are implemented in all major regions or else the US gets a bigger advantage than they currently have. Great for the US but the rest of the world wont be happy.

BF3 has Europe, West US, East US, South US, Japan, and Australia. Its fine for the most part. It means however that if you me and an aussie played together where gunna get shitty connections still.

If your playing on the Europe server because of me then your going to be in the same situation as before so would the Aussie. If i play on your US server im in a bad situation.

The only thing its going to do is stabilize the current connection environment and create less of a host advantage but in turn its going to create a regional advantage.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
StalkerUKCG said:
The only way i can see dedis working effectively is if they are implemented in all major regions or else the US gets a bigger advantage than they currently have. Great for the US but the rest of the world wont be happy.

BF3 has Europe, West US, East US, South US, Japan, and Australia. Its fine for the most part. It means however that if you me and an aussie played together where gunna get shitty connections still.

If your playing on the Europe server because of me then your going to be in the same situation as before so would the Aussie. If i play on your US server im in a bad situation.

The only thing its going to do is stabilize the current connection environment and create less of a host advantage but in turn its going to create a regional advantage.

Don't even bother. Dedicated severs are the True and Correct American Super-Solution to all of Halo's Problems™.
 

feel

Member
I don't get the euro hate for servers here. It's not the same situation because in matchaking you would be playing in a server
from your region, and in case of an international custom or MM game the server won't have a crappy connection (the reason for bad experiences with across the pond games) so it will still be fine.
 
Slightly Live said:
Don't even bother. Dedicated severs are the True and Correct American Super-Solution to all of Halo's Problems™.


Dont get me wrong, id like the added stability it would bring to the game but the price to set up and maintain multiple server farms is going to be pretty hard to justify for microsoft. Gears is the only game using the dedis at the moment and with the drop in player count maybe halo could piggy back on them.
 
Havok said:
The difference is that a big server farm is going to have better bandwidth than some redneck in the middle of nowhere that the game decides should host because his buddy wants to run around the map with him as a guest.

Don't bother, it's fucking dumb this point has to be made over and over again.
 

kylej

Banned
Hydranockz said:
The dedi would have to be in between you and Over for a better connection surely. You connecting to a NH dedi is the same as now

Sure, if the game actually did that. I live in NH with a steady 10mb up and I don't get host. It doesn't split the difference between Devo and Over, instead it'll give it to some kid in Japan or Guatemala and fuck everybody.

Slightly Live said:
Don't even bother. Dedicated severs are the True and Correct American Super-Solution to all of Halo's Problems™.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
 

Plywood

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OuterWorldVoice said:
Apologies for my inappropriate language yesterday.
It's too late, you've shot yourself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Halo culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in TF2 where you can become successful by being a demoman. If you screw someone over in Halo, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the dudebro public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Halo 4, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but you've alienated an entire market with this move.

343i, publicly apologize and cancel Halo 4 for 360 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
 
You guys are weird anything that would make Halo better you are against.

-60FPS.
-Dedis.

Both of those things would make Halo more goods and you are against both things?


Can we not even wish to have nice things anymore?
 
kylej said:
Sure, if the game actually did that. I live in NH with a steady 10mb up and I don't get host. It doesn't split the difference between Devo and Over, instead it'll give it to some kid in Japan or Guatemala and fuck everybody.

.
:lol I thought that meant Northern Holland cuz you guys were talking about Over haha.
 

Plywood

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xxjuicesxx said:
You guys are weird anything that would make Halo better you are against.

-60FPS.
-Dedis.

Both of those things would make Halo more goods and you are against both things?


Can we not even wish to have nice things anymore?
Halo 4 for PC is the only way that will happen.
 
I've played enough games with enough players from around the world to be more than happy with P2P. If 343 thinks dedis or a combination of both works better, I'd love to see it happen, not that I would even notice :p
 
xxjuicesxx said:
-60FPS.
-Dedis.
None of these things are really neccesary, what they have to do is to develop a great netcode, Reach's netcode was already a great improvement over 3's crappy online experience.
Dedis won't solve anything and I'm 89% sure Halo 4 won't have them.
 

MrBig

Member
Gabotron ES said:
None of these things are really neccesary, what they have to do is to develop a great netcode, Reach's netcode was already a great improvement over 3's crappy online experience.
Dedis won't solve anything and I'm 89% sure Halo 4 won't have them.
Yes because the only possible reason anyone would ever want dedicated servers is to "solve" problems that they can't solve.

e: 60fps will not happen for H4, since that's on 360. Unless of course you want to lower the LoD all the way down to CoD levels just to smoothen out the FPS.
 

Kuroyume

Banned
Yeah sure, keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Next thing you're going to tell us is that Forge is amazing and doesn't have to be improved.
 
Kuroyume said:
Yeah sure, keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Next thing you're going to tell us is that Forge is amazing and doesn't have to be improved.
Don't get me wrong but I'm sure most guys yelling "Halo needs dedicated servers" don't even know how these works and the complications they could bring.
Again, a better netcode and host selection system would be a better solution, regarding the 60 FPS thing, isn't the human eye capable of seeing 24 FPS, where would the others go?
 

daedalius

Member
Striker said:
Things to take down vehicles in Hemorrhage: DMR, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Plasma Launcher

Banshee is broken with the horrid maneuvering and banshee bomb. Best thing to take it out is a sniper, or if on map, laser. Unfortunate that wasn't in any of the TU changes.

Unless you're team shooting the dmr isn't going to do much to a hog. Plasma pistol will get you killed more often than not imo if they have a halfway decent gunner, and a single plasma nade won't do much. Concussion rifle is a joke compared to the brute shot awesome.

Banshees is broke tho
 
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