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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

feel

Member
Gui_PT said:
What a jerk =(
Seriously. Hey! I really couldn't join customs until later when everyone got off the computers here at home... otherwise I was gonna make everyone in the customs lag something fierce.
 

Gui_PT

Member
Letters said:
Seriously. Hey! I really couldn't join customs until later when everyone got off the computers here at home... otherwise I was gonna make everyone in the customs lag something fierce.

You're just afraid you'll get your ass kicked!
 

EazyB

Banned
Nutter said:
I am not sure why there is such a huge disparity between kills in the Blackout CTF game we played.

I left after the forth round (score tied at 0) so I am assuming you guys played 1 more round each. (2 total)

So even with that (assuming) I played 66% of the match, yet I had already racked up 42 kills..WTF.. and my TOD with a whopping 20 kills is the BR. Take that Coco!

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=1521212701&player=NutterB
You were host, something Ram called out during the first custom match we played because it was so blatant. Of course we all went black screen after you left while it switched host. Your BR practically shot sniper rounds and subsequently tore us all apart.

Dani said:
Lot's fun last night, makes me happy to know Reach will have feature parity with Halo 3, some moments are worth remembering.

Splatterflip, a unique Zeouterlimits fail.
I thought that clip was from MM and got all excited because I saw the chop there :(

Cocopjojo said:
One of the main things that changed was that after you left I decided to use the AR exclusively. No melees, no grenades, no other weapons.

And my argument was never that the AR wins 100% of the time in 100% of situations. My argument was that if you have skill with it, it can be devastating (just like lots of other weapons, including the BR). I think I proved that.

If you know what you're doing with the BR, then BR will beat AR in almost every situation. But if you screw up and miss your four-shot in a CQC situation, then the AR has a good chance at wining. This is where all of the frustration came from last night. The BR lost to the AR in CQC situations, and that frustrated the guy with the BR - that his mid-range weapon lost in a close-range battle.
The frustration comes from losing firefights to someone that doesn't have to aim. It's more balanced when there's radar and people can choose their approach knowing someone with a bullet-hose could be approaching but when it's easier to sneak up on someone and spray them down it just leads to many a thrown controller. I still prefer no radar with BR only starts as I find the CQC BRing which ensues to be fun but if we wanna ARs to every single level again I'd rather have it on.
 
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Deleted member 21120

Unconfirmed Member
EazyB said:
The frustration comes from losing firefights to someone that doesn't have to aim. It's more balanced when there's radar and people can choose their approach knowing someone with a bullet-hose could be approaching but when it's easier to sneak up on someone and spray them down it just leads to many a thrown controller. I still prefer no radar with BR only starts as I find the CQC BRing which ensues to be fun but if we wanna ARs to every single level again I'd rather have it on.
In an AR vs BR fight, the guy with the AR must aim if he wants to win, because if his reticule strays away for even a second, the clip will run out before his enemy is dead. At least with a BR you get to keep on firing another dozen rounds or so.
 

EazyB

Banned
Cocopjojo said:
In an AR vs BR fight, the guy with the AR must aim if he wants to win, because if his reticule strays away for even a second, the clip will run out before his enemy is dead. At least with a BR you get to keep on firing another dozen rounds or so.
If you manage to miss a shot with the AR you should probably quit gaming.
 

Arnie

Member
Dang Buzzit! I missed some customs fun. On a lighter note, we should have some sweet new Reach scans within 24 hours.
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Cocopjojo said:
In an AR vs BR fight, the guy with the BR must aim if he wants to win, because if his reticule strays away for even a second, the clip will run out before his enemy is dead. At least with an AR you get to keep on firing another dozen rounds or so.

Fixed, surprisingly.
 
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Deleted member 21120

Unconfirmed Member
Everyone's entitled to enjoy the game however they want (which is why we have an MLG playlist), but the constant complaining about a close-range weapon beating a mid-range weapon in a close-range battle... it's just a bit amusing. I'll continue to use the AR at close-range (with success) and use the BR at mid-range (with success).
 

urk

butthole fishhooking yes
GhaleonEB said:
I was excited! And it was raining!

Also:

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P-I-M-P

LOL
 

Popeck

Member
Since this seems to be the Ultimate Halo Thread for now, I might as well post this here. Something quite strange, epic and lucky happened one day in Valhalla 2 Flag Heavies. My pal gave me a little push with his wraith and launched me to air. Strangely I managed to land on top of an enemy scorpion. Unlfortunately I died after boarding and destroying it.

Short story long, here's the whole thing on tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkVt2oZ89mU
 

EazyB

Banned
Cocopjojo said:
Everyone's entitled to enjoy the game however they want (which is why we have an MLG playlist), but the constant complaining about a close-range weapon beating a mid-range weapon in a close-range battle... it's just a bit amusing. I'll continue to use the AR at close-range (with success) and use the BR at mid-range (with success).
k Dax. If people can be successful just running around and spraying bullets randomly it's harder for people that appreciate skill-based gameplay to enjoy the game.
 
EazyB said:
k Dax. If people can be successful just running around and spraying bullets randomly it's harder for people that appreciate skill-based gameplay to enjoy the game.
That's why there's a MLG playlist if it's bothering you that much. Halo will never be 100% what you want it to be. The sooner you accept that, the easier time you'll have managing your blood pressure.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Cocopjojo said:
Everyone's entitled to enjoy the game however they want (which is why we have an MLG playlist), but the constant complaining about a close-range weapon beating a mid-range weapon in a close-range battle... it's just a bit amusing. I'll continue to use the AR at close-range (with success) and use the BR at mid-range (with success).


THANK YOU!!!!

The solution is to play more MLG
 

DD-11

Member
EazyB said:
k Dax. If people can be successful just running around and spraying bullets randomly it's harder for people that appreciate skill-based gameplay to enjoy the game.

Wow. If you were so skilled you'd be able to deal with the mindless spraying. Obviously, that's not what they're doing, or you're not very skilled.

This is the stupidest argument I've seen in this thread, and that's quite a statement.
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
I agree with Cop about a short-range weapon winning in a short-range battle, but I think the melee has A LOT to do with the frustration we all get with the AR. All you need to do is shoot 4-6 bullets into a person at close range with the AR then melee them and they're dead.

With the BR? Three bursts (all 3 bullets from each burst need to connect) and a melee.

And if you happen to do the same? Simultaneous beatdown. I really don't understand how any designer would EVER think "let's have the melee attack take 95% of your health regardless of what weapon being used to melee and where you melee them and if the opponent does the same then just have them both drop dead" and the other designers would actually sit there and agree on such an absurdley stupid decision.
 

DD-11

Member
I agree with all that, but if you insist on using a BR at close range, that's something you're going to have to accept. This line of thinking that everyone should have a gentleman's agreement and only use one weapon is baffling.
 

big ander

Member
Dani said:
Lot's fun last night, makes me happy to know Reach will have feature parity with Halo 3, some moments are worth remembering.

Splatterflip, a unique Zeouterlimits fail.
That was awesome :lol I also loved the 1 Flag round where we somehow pulled off the cap at the end with my crappy driving. We also played Influential VIP for the first time. I now know why nobody plays it. :lol

Dax01 said:
Instead of AR vs BR (again), you guys should watch RvB. I'm playing catch up at the moment (watchin' Recreation), and it's awesome.
http://redvsblue.com/archive/?id=826
I doubt anyone will listen. I made several posts about Recreation during it's airing and always got ignored. :/

urk said:
Wow that's impressive. Nice job Bungie!

Popeck said:
Since this seems to be the Ultimate Halo Thread for now, I might as well post this here. Something quite strange, epic and lucky happened one day in Valhalla 2 Flag Heavies. My pal gave me a little push with his wraith and launched me to air. Strangely I managed to land on top of an enemy scorpion. Unlfortunately I died after boarding and destroying it.

Short story long, here's the whole thing on tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkVt2oZ89mU
That was also awesome.
 

EazyB

Banned
DD-11 said:
Wow. If you were so skilled you'd be able to deal with the mindless spraying. Obviously, that's not what they're doing, or you're not very skilled.

This is the stupidest argument I've seen in this thread, and that's quite a statement.
Re-read my post and try again, bud.
 

kylej

Banned
can't wait to poop on the AR kids in Reach with that dong 1-shot gun thing.

Zeouterlimits said:
Just played a match with HaloGAF lurker Xand who sent me a simple message after the match. Nice chap.
fxgm8l.jpg

Crucifiction gamerpic? If that's on the marketplace that's amazing.
 

Nutter

Member
I think we should play more customs tonight, but tonight lets make the Teams; Team AR vs. Team BR.
we all know which side Coco will be on. :p

Oh and if i was host last night.. then that is awesome!! (my internet connection is finally usefull)
 

Blueblur1

Member
While some good points have been made, I still have my preference. And I have complained and most likely will complain sometime in the future because the MLG playlist isn't something I want. I much preferred the original hardcore hopper: standard gametypes with BR starts all the time. The AR is still a useless weapon on many Halo 3 maps because mid-range weapons lay about and the map designs encourages long range combat. That's not the case with every map, of course. I do recognize the role the AR has in the sandbox but I still feel like it's much too weak of a weapon to be the primary starting weapon in Halo.

But hey, that's just the way it is.
 

kylej

Banned
Nutter said:
I think we should play more customs tonight, but tonight lets make the Teams; Team AR vs. Team BR.
we all know which side Coco will be on. :p

I'll be around for the next 3 hours or so.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Waiting for Edge hot Reach scoops has been boring. Here's the result of boredom. I hope we get our Edge Reach info tomorrow.

HaloGAF Presents Oonsk - The Game

thehalogafgame.png


Help Oonsk escape/kill Covies/save Earth etc!

4 Weapons types Laser, Plasma Grenade Flinger, Triple Shot Super Plasma Pistol and Default, collect skulls to upgrade, default weapon is the Needler Canon, it shoots Needlers (literally).

4 Enemy types
1 Constant unkillable enemy (avoid!)
1 Boss

Arrow keys to fire and Spacebar to shoot.


High Score wins a cookie!

Please don't sue me! If this is not allowed, I'll remove it. Just intended to be harmless fluff. =)

Don't be knocking it for being cheap piece of shit, I know it is. =P

May contain fun, somewhere.

This is just a wee flash game from a tutorial I was using to practice ActionScript. I decided to do some cosmetic changes and voila, Oonsk - The Game.

LINK
 

Louis Wu

Member
First rage-quit ever.

I accidentally choose multi-team (I was reaching for Mythic), and my teammate quits in the pre-game lobby. The crowd vetoes Crazy King (just as well, nearly impossible to win solo), and what comes up? VIP on Last Resort. :(

VIP SUCKS WHEN YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON ON YOUR TEAM. (VIP sucks period - but the suckitude is 10x worse when you're alone.)

So one time, I spawn as the non-VIP. AWESOME - I'm not on everyone's radar! So I round a corner, and there's these two players, different colors, teaming up to kill me. I mean... they're right next to each other, but they're both shooting for ME, around the corner. And I'm not even a VIP. :(

Edit: I didn't pay attention to the rules for Dani's game - I saved the earth, but I only scored 1210. :(
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Cocopjojo said:
Everyone's entitled to enjoy the game however they want (which is why we have an MLG playlist), but the constant complaining about a close-range weapon beating a mid-range weapon in a close-range battle... it's just a bit amusing. I'll continue to use the AR at close-range (with success) and use the BR at mid-range (with success).
Seems like a perfectly reasonable point that no one should...
EazyB said:
k Dax. If people can be successful just running around and spraying bullets randomly it's harder for people that appreciate skill-based gameplay to enjoy the game.
....facepalm.
urk said:
Time for a career change, you foxy beast.
 
Dani said:
Waiting for Edge hot Reach scoops has been and boring. Here's the result of boredom. I hope we get our Edge Reach info tomorrow.

HaloGAF Presents Oonsk - The Game

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/iamnotevilness/thehalogafgame.png[/IM

Help Oonsk escape/kill Covies/save Earth etc!

[I]4 Weapons types Laser, Plasma Grenade Flinger, Triple Shot Super Plasma Pistol and Default, collect skulls to upgrade, default weapon is the Needler Canon, it shoots Needlers (literally).

4 Enemy types
1 Constant unkillable enemy (avoid!)
1 Boss

Arrow keys to fire and Spacebar to shoot.[/I]

High Score wins a cookie!

[spoiler]Please don't sue me! If this is not allowed, I'll remove it. Just intended to be harmless fluff. =)

Don't be knocking it for being cheap piece of shit, I know it is. =P

May contain fun, somewhere.[/spoiler]

This is just a wee flash game from a tutorial I was using to practice ActionScript. I decided to do some cosmetic changes and voila, Oonsk - The Game.

[URL="http://zenpop.co.uk/danimoo/"][B]LINK[/B][/URL][/QUOTE]
:lol :lol
Gah. I suck at these side-scrolling space shooter games. Good work.
 

Why For?

Banned
Domino Theory said:
I agree with Cop about a short-range weapon winning in a short-range battle, but I think the melee has A LOT to do with the frustration we all get with the AR. All you need to do is shoot 4-6 bullets into a person at close range with the AR then melee them and they're dead.

With the BR? Three bursts (all 3 bullets from each burst need to connect) and a melee.

And if you happen to do the same? Simultaneous beatdown. I really don't understand how any designer would EVER think "let's have the melee attack take 95% of your health regardless of what weapon being used to melee and where you melee them and if the opponent does the same then just have them both drop dead" and the other designers would actually sit there and agree on such an absurdley stupid decision.

DISCALIMER: Maybe the following is a host thing or who knows, I'm in Australia, so maybe the lag kills us.

I'm not sure which version of Halo 3 YOU'RE playing, but NEVER, EVER in my couple of years playing Halo 3 have I killed someone with 4-6 bullets and a melee hit.

And if you check my Halo 3 stats, melee is my preferred kill method, yeah I use the AR. Fuck the BR, fuck it in the ass.

I ALWAYS need a nice chunk of the clip before melee does it's job.
 

Thermite

Member
Dani said:
Waiting for Edge hot Reach scoops has been boring. Here's the result of boredom. I hope we get our Edge Reach info tomorrow.

HaloGAF Presents Oonsk - The Game

thehalogafgame.png


Help Oonsk escape/kill Covies/save Earth etc!

4 Weapons types Laser, Plasma Grenade Flinger, Triple Shot Super Plasma Pistol and Default, collect skulls to upgrade, default weapon is the Needler Canon, it shoots Needlers (literally).

4 Enemy types
1 Constant unkillable enemy (avoid!)
1 Boss

Arrow keys to fire and Spacebar to shoot.


High Score wins a cookie!

Please don't sue me! If this is not allowed, I'll remove it. Just intended to be harmless fluff. =)

Don't be knocking it for being cheap piece of shit, I know it is. =P

May contain fun, somewhere.

This is just a wee flash game from a tutorial I was using to practice ActionScript. I decided to do some cosmetic changes and voila, Oonsk - The Game.

LINK

:lol Okay, that's freaking awesome.
 

Ramirez

Member
Cocopjojo said:
I think what he was trying to say was

[IG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/Cocopjojo/ARvsBR.png[/IMG]

I wanted to thank you for quite possibly the most worthless night of Halo ever. What topped it off is that I heard you several times trying to get everyone to troll the other team just to piss them off.

You're a pretty cool guy.
 
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Deleted member 21120

Unconfirmed Member
Didn't mean it personally, dude. My trolling instructions were for my team to all use their ARs and fire their entire clip off even after killing someone. AR vs BR is all in fun, and if feelings were genuinely hurt, then I'm sorry. I didn't think that amongst our group anyone was being offended by it.
 
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