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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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bobs...onGaf
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I cant speak for how good the overall story is, but Halo 2 in my opinion was a bit of a mess, Halo 1 had this amazing sense of mystery attached to it, which Halo 2 butchered in the first 5 minuites.
Seriusly, I didnt want to see how the covenant operates, theyre an alien race, they should be mysterious! I actually enjoyed the Brute and Elite shism but why are the Elites so damn over zelous, the way they talked and acted just never sat right.
Also the game didnt exactly have much going for it in terms of locations, Earth on paper is awesome, but not something that I think needed to really be seen in a Halo game - I mean lets be honest Halo 1 was about amazing beutiful alien vistas. I dont want to see drab concrete jungles from the future! While I didnt quite enjoy the missions themselves, the alien levels where probably the coolest asthetically as I dont think they nailed that second Halo ring.
Just my 2 cents.
Seriusly, I didnt want to see how the covenant operates, theyre an alien race, they should be mysterious! I actually enjoyed the Brute and Elite shism but why are the Elites so damn over zelous, the way they talked and acted just never sat right.
Also the game didnt exactly have much going for it in terms of locations, Earth on paper is awesome, but not something that I think needed to really be seen in a Halo game - I mean lets be honest Halo 1 was about amazing beutiful alien vistas. I dont want to see drab concrete jungles from the future! While I didnt quite enjoy the missions themselves, the alien levels where probably the coolest asthetically as I dont think they nailed that second Halo ring.
Just my 2 cents.
electricpirate
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Lunchbox said:
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I hope Reach has a larger variety of environments than Halo 3 did. In addition to the Earth portions of the campaign, I find the human MP levels unappealing as well. The multiplayer trailer did show hints of some more variety in the design of human environments but time will tell.
squidhands
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bobs99 ... said:
Agreed. My (at the time girlfriend) introduced me to Halo:CE. We both played the hell out of the campaign and spent countless hours playing 1v1 on the multiplayer maps (1v1 on Sidewinder; not so much fun). I went out and got H2 the day it came out, and within the first few minutes my wife yelled, "We're friends with the enemy now? What the fuck is this shit?!" I liked the campaign for the most part, but I absolutely hated the seemingly abrupt ending to it. The H2 Brutes were a terrible addition to the game, and I missed fighting the Elites something fierce.
All this talk about it makes me want to play the H2 campaign again. Gods, Halo manipulates me like no other...
Hydranockz
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Sai-kun said:
I was actually hoping to get those maps again, those were a great lugh at customs. I can't remember who it was, but he kept insisting on using the chopper on one map, and always fell off the edge fairly soon into round.
Jedeye Sniv
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squidhands said:
In the first few minutes? We weren't friends with the enemy, we were just seeing what they were up to. Vital mis-reading there, grounds for divorce I think.
squidhands
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She caught on to the uber-simple story quickly.Jedeye Sniv said:
To be honest though, sometimes the best part of storytelling is what you don't tell your audience. When you leave things mysterious and up to the person's imagination, that sometimes makes for a more entertaining experience. Halo CE definitely had that.Flipyap said:
@Eazy: You should find a classic post like every week for us. Would be fun!
It's most likely just me, but does anyone else cringe when they read their old posts sometimes?Tashi0106 said:
I wish I could go back to the Halo 2 thread and look at some of that stuff again. :lol
Yup. Halo 2 had to do a lot of heavy lifting in introducing new characters, expanding the Halo universe and establishing a dual-narrative, and it did it well. It's still one of my favorite game stories, especially for its execution. Halo 3 had a simple story that it managed to muddle in both narrative and dialog quality.Scullibundo said:
backflip10019
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This. I don't understand how people can get so enveloped in the story.DualX said:
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Trasher said:@Eazy: You should find a classic post like every week for us. Would be fun!
I don't think bringing up the low points of past threads is a good idea, even in jest. I know I made some stupid posts in the past that I regret even if it's all water under the bridge at this point.
Trasher said:
Nope, you don't have exclusivity on that. :lol
So bringing things back on topic, when do you think we'll get that GTTV Reach episode that was brought up a while ago? Sounds like the multiplayer information reveal may be happening in the next few weeks or so.
We're getting a podcast this week, aren't we?
Accidentus
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soon
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
While arguing about story is fun, one reason I can prefer campaign to multi is the combat. Multiplayer is fun, but lets face it, it's hard and you'll spend as much time dying as kicking ass (maybe even more if you get stuck playing with randoms as I have for the past 2 years...). Whereas in the SP you get to kick some serious ass and pull off some feats of brilliance. The feeling of sprinting into a room full of brutes and emerging victorious 8 seconds later is un-matched by almost any game and certainly not by the MP.
The various tactics you can employ, the seat-of-your-pants saves and near misses, headshotting grunts, the feeling of being a goddamn superhero... all these are unique to Halo SP IMO.
The various tactics you can employ, the seat-of-your-pants saves and near misses, headshotting grunts, the feeling of being a goddamn superhero... all these are unique to Halo SP IMO.
Slightly Live
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Jedeye Sniv said:
You are either speed running or playing on easy, no way a room full of monkey takes eight seconds to lick clean.
Hydranockz
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Good to hearurk said:
BladedExpert
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Letters said:
:lol Reading old posts is like watching yourself back in a video.
Speaking of videos:
Work continues....
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
BladedExpert said:
Woohoo! Excited to see it.
BladedExpert
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Tashi0106 said:
Accidentus said:
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edit: Well, there are 18 people down, 29 to go... then touch-ups, transition effects...
Hydranockz
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6 minutes? Nice ^^
As much as I hate the post-CE Halo stories that doesn't mean the campaigns themselves aren't worthwhile to me. Fantastic AI with the occasionally great level/encounter design makes for some fun shooting. Still, I wouldn't shed a tear if they were scrapping the campaign to focus on MP.DualX said:
Sweet, hope it'll be up once I get back from classes. Give me something to wash the taste of fluid dynamics midterm outta my mouth.urk said:
Mr. B Natural
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goldenpp72 said:
This kinda explains why I loved halo 1 so much and why the rest kinda disappointed me. Halo 1 was full of discovery and mystery. What is the flood? What's the best way to defeat it? What are these weird looking alien covenant (you couldn't really tell what they looked like) and how do I outsmart them. Oh look, they have a hierarchy. Maybe I can exploit that. Wow. I'm in a ring sized planet. I wonder what I will discover. Whoa, I took an alien's weapon, I wonder what the best way to use it is. Oh, I see, this weapon works great when paired with this weapon because this one removes the shield and this one does the rest! I figured out the story as you went and found new characters that were just as mysterious as the rest of the game. So many unsafe ideas that just happened to work together so well.
So many things to discover in Halo 1. Halo 2 and 3 had pretty much absolutely none of that. Nothing new. Nothing to discover. Nothing to figure out. Instead, they concentrated on the hammy narrative. All the charm of discovery down the drain.
Ideas like the jetpack are nice and all, but they're very 1 dimensional. There's no mystery behind it. I know exactly what to do and how to use it and I never even touched the game yet. I wish bungie would come up with new, more open ended and less safe ideas but maybe i'm asking for too much.
BladedExpert
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Hydranockz said:
You can at least double that :lol
Captain Blood
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15338325&postcount=91688
I still stand by Shake getting the "Post of the Halo 3 thread" Trophy.
I still stand by Shake getting the "Post of the Halo 3 thread" Trophy.
Foxy Fox 39
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Whoa?! Sony Vegas? How does that compare to Adobe After Effects?
Hydranockz
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Haha well soooooorry if you post an old picBladedExpert said:
C'mon, keep us busy until the podcast comes our way... so make one 6 hours long please ^^backflip10019
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Awesome, I'm so excited dude.BladedExpert said:
squidhands
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To be fair, that can be said of pretty much any sequel. It's more of the same, except you already know how it is played.Mr. B Natural said:
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
squidhands said:
Yes that can be said about most sequels but what he is eluding to is the feeling of exploration. Halo has not had a mission where I actually felt I was discovering something or in a new place I have never been before since "Flawless Cowboy", Reach looks to bring that sense of mystery from Halo: CE back and that is what is really exciting.
Stormtrooper30
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:lolCaptain Blood said:
I have faith in you Bladed. I hope you're cutting down on all the clips to just get the good parts... otherwise it would be a really long montage.
Major Williams
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I agree with nearly everything you said here, except for the Halo 2 bit that a lot of people here are harping on.Jedeye Sniv said:
Halo 1 was mysterious because there were so little details given. Seriously - the dialogue was so short and to the point, and obviously well written, that of course it seems perfect.
Bungie had the choice of what to do next, and could only really go one route with millions of fans demanding answers, without alienating them - tap into the lore behind it all. If everything was still a mystery through the third game, I can guarantee the majority of people who played the story single player or just for the story would have felt uncared for and given up on the franchise. I know I probably would have.
Halo 2 represents a fragmented and chaotic snapshot of some of the most important people in the human/covenant/flood war of the 26th century, and it needs to because that's what war is. Granted, some of the corniness is out of place with the seriousness of the story, but overall I feel it achieved its objectives. With trillions of lives affected by the decisions of a few, we need to see into their lives and what affects these decisions made. While this can take away from the 'mystery' of it all, if you make compelling characters, the audience should migrate naturally to indemnify these characters into their core Halo experience gladly.
And they did just that: the Arbiter, deeper understanding of the Chief and Cortana, Gravemind, Truth, and Johnson. These characters breathed life into the franchise where mystery could no longer be present, and Halo 2 did a fine job of it too. The harder you looked underneath the surface of the story, the more depth and information you got from the story. The subtle storytelling was there, but the franchise had to make a change to keep their audience, and do justice to the conflict they were creating.
