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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Popeck

Member
bobs99 ... said:
They really should just put the Halo 2 maps on the 360 marketplace though - or on Waypoint somehow.

I think they tried to do that with the last two maps, but in the end it didn't work out and they were released only on the old Xbox Live. I don't think Microsoft is willing to put any more resources to this problem, especially now that the old Live is closing down in just about a week. Of course it would be nice, but I just don't see it happening.

So Gui_PT can't see the maps on the download section or what? Do you know anyone who might have the old Halo 2 Map Pack DVD (this: http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/11907/512155-halo_2___mp_map_pack___xbox_large.jpg). You could install the maps from the disc, though many players seem to have problems with install program both on the disc and Xbox Live since it requires you to use PAL50 (if I remember correctly), which in turn becomes a problem with VGA cable.

Anyways, we need some Reach info NAO. Maps plz. Purr. Kree.
 

Gui_PT

Member
I don't know man, I just get a "No Available Content" warning

I'm probably doing something wrong, just don't know what

And I don't know anyone with the Map Pack Disk =\
 

feel

Member
Gui_PT said:
Yes please, I can't get the maps from Halo 2's content download =(
Have you checked your xbox hard-drive fully for the Halo 2 maps? Maybe there's corrupt versions of the maps just sitting there all this time, not allowing you to download them again. Seek and delete those.

edit- nevermind, I just read above, it's probably not that

get that ish resolved by the 14th man!
 

Gui_PT

Member
Letters said:
Have you checked your xbox hard-drive fully for the Halo 2 maps? Maybe there's corrupt versions of the maps just sitting there all this time, not allowing you to download them again. Seek and delete those.

get that ish resolved by the 14th man!


Pretty sure I don't have them, but i'll go take a look just so I don't feel stupid later
 
Where are my updates?

It's getting boring here at work. xD

Speaking of loadouts: what kind of weapons do you guys expect to see coupled with the active camo ability?

Sniper/magnum? Sword/magnum?
 
Gui_PT said:
I don't know man, I just get a "No Available Content" warning

I'm probably doing something wrong, just don't know what

And I don't know anyone with the Map Pack Disk =\

Are you using the VGA cable? Thats what caused me problems and I had to get a friend to tell me what to do while I didnt have a screen :lol

Perhaps someone could walk you through downloading the maps step by step? Its likely your just missing a option somewhere?
 
Sai said:
Sniper Rifles and Swords are power weapons, they wouldn't be in the loadouts.

Yeah, forgot that (unless our definition of power weapons doesn't match Bungie's one anymore).

I was just thinking about which weapon would fit best in such a loadout.

So what else? Again the DMR? Magnum+plasma pistol?

The problem is that the more and the faster you move, the less you're invisible; that's why I can't think of a good weapon combination. Bungie do not hire me! xD
 

EazyB

Banned
Sai said:
Sniper Rifles and Swords are power weapons, they wouldn't be in the loadouts.
If the shotgun can be in some loadouts (ugh) then there's no reason we wouldn't be seeing a sword loadout for invasion or something.
 
Hmm im trying to play H2 and just cant get games, I really do think that the last game of H2 compition will be easy to win (provided theres enough people to get into games :lol )

I say we pair off into groups of 4 each and search in the same playlist to garuntee we get into matchmade games close to the cut off time. Would be awesome if 8 Gaffers won the prize!
 

Kapura

Banned
bobs99 ... said:
Hmm im trying to play H2 and just cant get games, I really do think that the last game of H2 compition will be easy to win (provided theres enough people to get into games :lol )

I say we pair off into groups of 4 each and search in the same playlist to garuntee we get into matchmade games close to the cut off time. Would be awesome if 8 Gaffers won the prize!
My undertanding was that it was the single person who scored the last point on live got the prize. And the person who guessed the number, but that's completely separate.
 

Wizman23

Banned
Bungie has been awfully quiet these past few days especially in regards to posting on GAF. Makes me think the map info is coming sooner rather then later in the week. Like I said yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if each map is taken by a different website with 1 day dedicated to each map. I also wouldn't be surprised if the likes of IGN were in on these map reveals.
 

Schmitty

Member
Wizman23 said:
Bungie has been awfully quiet these past few days especially in regards to posting on GAF. Makes me think the map info is coming sooner rather then later in the week. Like I said yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if each map is taken by a different website with 1 day dedicated to each map. I also wouldn't be surprised if the likes of IGN were in on these map reveals.
I would really rather have Bungie reveal them all instead, but I guess they get more publicity when they give the reveal to other sites.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Dax01 said:
Are all the maps for the beta getting revealed this week or is it just one map for this week and the rest for the next two or three weeks?
Its all the beta maps, though one map might be revealed on one site, then maybe the next day another site gets the next map, at least thats what I think they will do.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
GM Bullfrog said:
Wonder how much effort went into that with the way Bungie had the optimization built into it that hindered its performance when installed to the HDD from the disc?
I wonder if it has the DLC already on it. Im sure there have been some optimizations added to the game to let it run on the HDD just fine.
 

Apath

Member
Maybe it's just a regular Halo 3 and Microsoft is just banking on the longer load times not becoming a huge verbal issue? And considering Halo 3 has been pretty cheap lately, I don't think $19.99 would be out of the question.
 

feel

Member
wwm0nkey said:
I wonder if it has the DLC already on it. Im sure there have been some optimizations added to the game to let it run on the HDD just fine.
I bet they didn't change it at all for GoD, it just takes a few extra seconds when it comes to loading stuff, and it's almost unnoticeable. Everything else works perfectly fine like as if running off the dvd. Or at least that has been my experience.





VVVV Map week.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Has there been any hint indicating what is the feature that Bungie will expose this week?

I can't keep up with the info because I am on a crunch at work, I just wanted to know if you guys had any idea.
 

Kibbles

Member
godhandiscen said:
Has there been any hint indicating what is the feature that Bungie will expose this week?

I can't keep up with the info because I am on a crunch at work, I just wanted to know if you guys had any idea.
Beta maps will be revealed this week. We aren't sure if they are doing them 1 by 1 over the course of a few days or all at once though.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Kibbles said:
Beta maps will be revealed this week. We aren't sure if they are doing them 1 by 1 over the course of a few days or all at once though.
Thank you.
 

big ander

Member
Sai said:
... ?... Thought sure I saw Halo 3 on Games on Demand a while back, around the time the last of the Mythic Maps were released on the Marketplace.

Did MS let it slip early? Or did I see wrong?
I think you saw wrong.
 
I would expect the info to be released no later than Wednesday(tomorrow) if they're going to disclose them all at once. There is no point in having a map week if you don't release any info on the maps until Thursday or later, which would be kind of pointless if we already get a weekly update on Friday.

How many maps will be in the beta? 3? I think it would be good to release news on one map each day, starting today, and doing a summary/wrap-up with the weekly update on Friday. But that's just me.

If they decided to release the map info on different game sites, I was just wondering how many sites would be potentials?

http://halo.bungie.org/
http://gameinformer.com
http://www.gamespot.com
http://1up.com
http://www.gamepro.com
http://www.ign.com
http://www.gametrailers.com/
http://forwarduntodawn.com/
http://www.mlgpro.com/
http://haloreachinfo.com/ <-- never noticed this site before
http://g4tv.com/
http://www.joystiq.com/
http://www.teamxbox.com/

Eh, this is probably not the best way to pass the time. I was just thinking out loud.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Within minutes of the article(s) being posted, the link will show up here. It's one of the (several) reasons I rarely visit gaming sites.

It's not worth worrying about. Tomorrow or Thursday we'll see the goods, and then more detail on Friday per the current pattern. Relax and enjoy the ride.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Deputy Moonman said:
I would expect the info to be released no later than Wednesday(tomorrow) if they're going to disclose them all at once. There is no point in having a map week if you don't release any info on the maps until Thursday or later, which would be kind of pointless if we already get a weekly update on Friday.

How many maps will be in the beta? 3? I think it would be good to release news on one map each day, starting today, and doing a summary/wrap-up with the weekly update on Friday. But that's just me.

If they decided to release the map info on different game sites, I was just wondering how many sites would be potentials?

http://halo.bungie.org/
http://gameinformer.com
http://www.gamespot.com
http://1up.com
http://www.gamepro.com
http://www.ign.com
http://www.gametrailers.com/
http://forwarduntodawn.com/
http://www.mlgpro.com/
http://haloreachinfo.com/ <-- never noticed this site before
http://g4tv.com/
http://www.joystiq.com/
http://www.teamxbox.com/

Eh, this is probably not the best way to pass the time. I was just thinking out loud.

You can discount my site from that list. No chance of an exclusive map reveal ever appearing. :lol

That Reach Info site looks like a quick copy and paste job to make a quick buck through click-throughs and ads. Lame.

Also, going by the multiplayer trailer, I'd say four maps would be a safe bet.
 

Wizman23

Banned
Dani said:
You can discount my site from that list. No chance of an exclusive map reveal ever appearing. :lol

That Reach Info site looks like a quick copy and paste job to make a quick buck through click-throughs and ads. Lame.

Also, going by the multiplayer trailer, I'd say four maps would be a safe bet.

I'm also leaning towards 4 maps from a comment Urk made here in regards to that article you wrote for your site. I still only see 3 in the trailer. Maybe the 4th one didn't make the trailer.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Within minutes of the article(s) being posted, the link will show up here. It's one of the (several) reasons I rarely visit gaming sites.

It's not worth worrying about. Tomorrow or Thursday we'll see the goods, and then more detail on Friday per the current pattern. Relax and enjoy the ride.
Yeah that's a good point. I've got my impatient groove on at the moment.:lol

Dani said:
You can discount my site from that list. No chance of an exclusive map reveal ever appearing. :lol

That Reach Info site looks like a quick copy and paste job to make a quick buck through click-throughs and ads. Lame.

Also, going by the multiplayer trailer, I'd say four maps would be a safe bet.
4>3 <3 nice.
 

stephen08

Member
I think the safest bet is 3 maps this week that will be traditional play and then the other map will be for Invasion and shown when that mode is discussed in detail.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
stephen08 said:
I think the safest bet is 3 maps this week that will be traditional play and then the other map will be for Invasion and shown when that mode is discussed in detail.

What if Invasion is played on two of the maps? :D
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
Wizman23 said:
Bungie has been awfully quiet these past few days especially in regards to posting on GAF. Makes me think the map info is coming sooner rather then later in the week. Like I said yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if each map is taken by a different website with 1 day dedicated to each map. I also wouldn't be surprised if the likes of IGN were in on these map reveals.


If you guys remember a while ago it was either on here or a weekly update that Bungie talked about working on a guide or manual type over view of all the maps in the Beta. I believe it was mentioned right at the beginning of all the coverage, that it was being worked on.

They could also be working on Vidoc stuff this week as well. :D
 

stephen08

Member
Dani said:
What if Invasion is played on two of the maps? :D

Hmm. Good point... I wonder how the maps will work for Invasion. If it will be separate maps or expanded maps that we have already seen. The reason I was thinking it would be 1 map was because it looked like the MP trailer portion of Invasion took place in 1 setting.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Not a Jellyfish said:
If you guys remember a while ago it was either on here or a weekly update that Bungie talked about working on a guide or manual type over view of all the maps in the Beta. I believe it was mentioned right at the beginning of all the coverage, that it was being worked on.

They could also be working on Vidoc stuff this week as well. :D

Yeah, Urk did mention he was writing a guide of some sort for the Beta, don't think it was a map specific guide though.
 
stephen08 said:
I think the safest bet is 3 maps this week that will be traditional play and then the other map will be for Invasion and shown when that mode is discussed in detail.
I don't think Invasion is getting its own type of map. It looks like, judging from the multiplayer trailer, that a map can be host to both invasion and slayer.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
stephen08 said:
I think the safest bet is 3 maps this week that will be traditional play and then the other map will be for Invasion and shown when that mode is discussed in detail.
I'm still predicting this week is maps, next week is game types, and the week after (right before the Beta starts) will cover playlists and other final details that pull everything together.

I'll be posting the thread for the Beta on the 26th, BTW. Thread on Monday, F&F begins that Friday.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Anyone else expecting the vidoc to hit on April 15th?

also sweet GhaleonEB now we know when to expect youtube videos of the beta lol
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
stephen08 said:
Hmm. Good point... I wonder how the maps will work for Invasion. If it will be separate maps or expanded maps that we have already seen. The reason I was thinking it would be 1 map was because it looked like the MP trailer portion of Invasion took place in 1 setting.

I see two levels, the level with the thick green flora and the Smelter level.

One

SmelterSmall.jpg


Two

SettlementSmall.jpg
 

stephen08

Member
GhaleonEB said:
I'm still predicting this week is maps, next week is game types, and the week after (right before the Beta starts) will cover playlists and other final details that pull everything together.

I'll be posting the thread for the Beta on the 26th, BTW. Thread on Monday, F&F begins that Friday.


Nice can't wait!

Sketch confirmed Beta maps this week though right? And a long, long while ago it was mentioned that Invasion details were in the caboose of the hype train. Or am I misremembering?
 
I'd love for a map to be revealed today. Didn't Urk say that there were four maps in the beta? One today, one tomorrow, one on Thursday, and the final in this week's BWU.
 
Hey Urk, when going in for that podcast with some of the engineering guys, can you ask them if they've moved from a synchronus networking model for modes that utilze AI actors?

I was having the time of my life playing 3 player firefight, but "Slideshow" mode, "Ice skate Mode" and "aiming reticle changing directions like a boat" mode were getting quite frustrating.
 

stephen08

Member
Dani said:
I see two levels, the level with the thick green flora and the Smelter level.

One

Two


Ahh yeah, I could see that but it looked like at the beginning the Scorpion was rolling through a gate with an Elite in it that linked the two areas. It's been a while since I watched the trailer though.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Not a Jellyfish said:
Hrm...makes sense. I am betting on Vidoc this week then. :D

I'm expecting a Vidoc to be released either the day of the Beta or around it. Would be a good way to entice some casual fans to hop on.

We still need to know about Invasion, so I'm hoping we'll get that next week.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
stephen08 said:
Nice can't wait!

Sketch confirmed Beta maps this week though right? And a long, long while ago it was mentioned that Invasion details were in the caboose of the hype train. Or am I misremembering?
I don't remember that. I'm just guessing based on how things are building up.

Bungie started the reveal train far away from the actual gameplay of Reach, and has been slowly zeroing in since. The reveals to date, in order, with the last two my guesses

  • Social Features
  • Player Investment
  • Weapons, Vehicles, Armor Abilities (and sandbox in general)
  • Maps
  • Gametypes
  • Playlist and final feature set

Seems like a natural flow from high-level down to nittgy gritty. But who knows. That's part of the fun. (Sort of like waiting for the the information itself. Some of you guys really need to just relax and let the good times roll. Everything will come soon enough.)
 
Speculation:

That Green area with the generator serves as an approach to Powerhouse during Invasion games; since that really looks like Powerhouse in the distance, even with the criss crossing walkways. In standard MP modes, we just plain in the main structure, but in invasion it extends out farther giving a hard fought approach to the building. Maybe it's even a seperate map that's playable outside of the context of invasion that can be "Snapped" to powerhouse for Invasion.

Maps are like voltron, the more you have at once, the more fun it becomes!
 

wwm0nkey

Member
GhaleonEB said:
I don't remember that. I'm just guessing based on how things are building up.

Bungie started the reveal train far away from the actual gameplay of Reach, and has been slowly zeroing in since. The reveals to date, in order, with the last two my guesses

  • Social Features
  • Player Investment
  • Weapons, Vehicles, Armor Abilities (and sandbox in general)
  • Maps
  • Gametypes
  • Playlist and final feature set

Seems like a natural flow from high-level down to nittgy gritty. But who knows. That's part of the fun. (Sort of like waiting for the the information itself. Some of you guys really need to just relax and let the good times roll. Everything will come soon enough.)
Yeah that seems about right. Either way the next few weeks are going to be full of hype :D


Also anyone here want to play some Halo 2 customs or matchmaking?
 
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