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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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Not that it matters much. Thursday will be the gametype reveal, and along with it the 'action shots' of three maps, followed by the G4 Invasion footage on Friday. I'd wager on video the next week.Wizman23 said:
Not an especially timely leak.
(I've got enough of the Beta OP drafted that I'm having to wait for the next stuff to slot in. Step on it, Urk.
)You just described the first day of the Beta. Which reminds me, I need to take that day off work.EazyB said:
If anyone cares, Chapter 2 of Red Vs Blue: Revelation is up.
big ander said:
The Public Beta Arena experience is going to be a bit less pure than in the shipping game. In the shipping game players won't be presented with multiple flavors of slayer like:
- Team Slayer
- Slayer Bearmaul*
- Slayer T-Rex attack*
Whereas in the Public Beta all of those flavors will be mixed together in the lone Arena playlist.
In the case of Slayer flavors, there would be dedicated playlist(s) for those (a 1500 in Bearmaul* is vastly different than a 1500 in Team Slayer).
*not real gametypes
Yep, it's good stuff. The direct feed is always better than off-screen footage, although I still loved that Paradox put up the first four episodes. Only problem is, it makes waiting for actually new episodes a pain :lolZayneH said:
Gotcha, that clears up a lot. So the availability of AAs will vary between, say, Team Slayer and Slayer Bearmaul?LukeSmith said:
I would play Slayer Bearmaul SO HARD
GhaleonEB said:
I already took vacation for Monday and Tuesday of the beta. I have faith in Bungie that there will not be a Crackdown debacle part 2. Having the beta tied to a Bungie game that had a beta planned from development makes me think the beta will launch flawlessly.
I do hope Arena has different variants of Slayer. For Team Slayer they can go a lot of ways. Simple Team Slayer with the AR/Pistol start for all, another for a variety of loadout combinations, plus a version of Team Slayer Pro with radar off, and they could add a Rifles version with the ability with all the new add-ons of additions (DMR, Needler Rifle, Plasma Repeater, and the Focus Rifle). That's my hope, anyways...
So gametypes would essentially be constant per playlist in the shipping version of Arena? So you could go into the Team Slayer DMR playlist and the only gametype would be Team Slayer with all DMR starts? And then, I'm guessing, there would be the Team Slayer with default loadouts (ARs on most/all).LukeSmith said:
If a 1500 in each gametype is different, does that mean that it would be relatively easier to get a prestigious division in TS Bearmaul than TS T-Rex?
Striker said:
Yep, and I don't care for that area where the snipe spawns in Ghost Town. I really haven't played Orbital that much so I don't recall. But none of the other Halo 3 maps have anywhere near the clutter of the least cluttered MW2 maps.
And Rats Nest is really not cluttered at all.
So do these 1500 in TS and 1500 in Bearmaul contribute to the same seasonal ranking or separate ones. Or if they contribute to the same seasonal ranking are the differences in the Bearmaul and TS top players reflected in the player's service record or does working ones way to the top of team snipers net the same outcome as being the king of MLG (or Team Hardcore)?LukeSmith said:
Guess you answered that one already. nvmLukeSmith said:Right. But what if players had a way of seeing exactly how a player did in Bearmaul or T-Rex? Doesn't seem like that'd be a big deal, then.
Good stuff.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
JaggedSac said:
If life was actually that sterile, I'd agree. But since it's not,
NOOOOO
How many playlists are we talking about here? I expected the elimination of the rank and social playlist distinction would mean the player population would be huddled closer together than ever before but if Arena's going to consist of 4 or more additional playlists then the segmented player population issue is going to crop up again.
Nutter said:Cant wait for your alt gamertag that incorporates this.
xXDMRprotashiissickinTRexXx
I just hope it isn't already taken
Luke said:
fixed.
But yea that does sound pretty cool. It's basically what we have now in Halo 3 right? The best players in the MLG playlist are better than the best players in the Slayer playlist. There will be a playlist in which the best players only play (Team Slayer DMR, everyone starts with the same weapon) and then there will be a playlist where the lesser skilled/hardcore players play which will be something TS with all kinds of loadout variations. And who knows how many other playlists. I'm excited.
dilatedmuscle
Member
Leaked shot looks good.
It's a building. If Bungie wants to do lush, they do. Halo MP will always have a clean style to it, but even then there's plenty of more 'dirty' imagery around on the other maps.FunkyMunkey said:
I can see myself being an 800 in Bearmaul.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Trasher said:
Hush, we've accepted our less than optimal connections and our Halo 3 BR 7 shotting. =)
Pretty much. I thought they went a little overboard with the shit they threw into the Halo 3 maps and was afraid that with the improving tech they'd only go further down that route, adding more rubble and bumps everywhere.GhaleonEB said:
With Reach they've definitely added more details but they now realize these gameplay repercussions and with things like having a smooth invisible layer over some of the chaos will lessen these drawbacks. As long as the invisible surface is easy to predict it'll be golden and I'm not really concerned about it.
Aesthetically I do appreciate a clean MP map so you know where the ledges are and how surfaces meet but in the SP department a little bit of entropy can go a long ways to give you something pretty to look at. Sharing MP and SP themes and assets means SP is sorta tied down to MP's restrictions but what we've seen of Reach's "grittier" environments look good enough.
As far as textures go, it's really unfair to compare a 360 game's textures to a PS3 game. I don't often witness anything on my PS3 that I think can't be done on the 360 but games like Uncharted and GoW3 really trump anything that has or may even ever come out for the 360 in terms of texture quality and variety. I'd love to see what Bungie could do with that kind of space and if it weren't for XBL and the 360 controller I'd want them making PS3 exclusives ASAP.
Hey guys, this is gonna be my first long post, so bear with me.
I really think Reach is destined for greatness... and here is why.
First of all, I have had extensive time with all the Halo games so far, but there is something different about Reach. There seems to be this drive in Bungie to truly go above and beyond the call this time with development. Bungie has always been a really talented studio but this time it seems like all the pieces are in place.
Bungie has its engine set and good to go early in the process, (not the case with Halo 1 and 2) Both Halo 1 and 2 were arguably rushed products due to a few errors in the beginning of development. Halo 1 struggled with identity, platform shift, and with being a launch title, and Halo 2 struggled with a scrapping of the engine and some assets late in the project.
Nonetheless both Halo 1 and Halo 2 were fantastic games for many reasons, both innovation and gameplay wise.
With Halo 3, Bungie still had to make up for the fact that it was their first Xbox 360 game which is why I think the graphical leap wasn't as big as many would've liked. Bungie also experimented with disabling hit scan, different story telling techniques, a new spawn weapon, and with a bunch of extra features such as Forge and the Theater. This resulted in one of the most played Xbox live game of all time so not too shabby for experimentation I would say
Although Halo 2 and Halo 3 were great games they were burdened by too much ambition, and the fact that they were part of a trilogy.
And Halo Reach? Oh baby Halo Reach!
One of the greatest things that Reach will benefit from are the mistakes of its predecessors. I am sure Bungie has learned volumes from its mistakes in the past, and this combined with an incredible staff built of Halo vets and new guys with fresh ideas (read: Sage), and mountains of data collected over 9 years will allow them to have a much more successful development process.
Finally, the planet Reach itself is what will hold all these great ideas together. Reach is a blank slate, a place where Bungie can go and introduce us to new experiences and wow us again with massive open spaces filled with mystery and unrelenting combat. With all the features making a return, with all the new features that are being introduced, and with a new lean mean graphics engine we may finally get the "perfect Halo game" that we have all been waiting for.
Man I am ready for this. Are u?
Haha, I know, corny but whatever.
I really think Reach is destined for greatness... and here is why.
First of all, I have had extensive time with all the Halo games so far, but there is something different about Reach. There seems to be this drive in Bungie to truly go above and beyond the call this time with development. Bungie has always been a really talented studio but this time it seems like all the pieces are in place.
Bungie has its engine set and good to go early in the process, (not the case with Halo 1 and 2) Both Halo 1 and 2 were arguably rushed products due to a few errors in the beginning of development. Halo 1 struggled with identity, platform shift, and with being a launch title, and Halo 2 struggled with a scrapping of the engine and some assets late in the project.
Nonetheless both Halo 1 and Halo 2 were fantastic games for many reasons, both innovation and gameplay wise.
With Halo 3, Bungie still had to make up for the fact that it was their first Xbox 360 game which is why I think the graphical leap wasn't as big as many would've liked. Bungie also experimented with disabling hit scan, different story telling techniques, a new spawn weapon, and with a bunch of extra features such as Forge and the Theater. This resulted in one of the most played Xbox live game of all time so not too shabby for experimentation I would say
Although Halo 2 and Halo 3 were great games they were burdened by too much ambition, and the fact that they were part of a trilogy.
And Halo Reach? Oh baby Halo Reach!
One of the greatest things that Reach will benefit from are the mistakes of its predecessors. I am sure Bungie has learned volumes from its mistakes in the past, and this combined with an incredible staff built of Halo vets and new guys with fresh ideas (read: Sage), and mountains of data collected over 9 years will allow them to have a much more successful development process.
Finally, the planet Reach itself is what will hold all these great ideas together. Reach is a blank slate, a place where Bungie can go and introduce us to new experiences and wow us again with massive open spaces filled with mystery and unrelenting combat. With all the features making a return, with all the new features that are being introduced, and with a new lean mean graphics engine we may finally get the "perfect Halo game" that we have all been waiting for.
Man I am ready for this. Are u?
Haha, I know, corny but whatever.
Redownloading Halo2 maps is like waiting in line at the DMV. You think you finally finished waiting in line when you get to the teller and then BAM! she tells you to go wait in the longer line over there!!! :lol
If anybody is up for some quick Halo2 action tonight, send a message to "FourDoor". I'll be traveling on business starting tomorrow and will miss the last day Halo2 is online.
If anybody is up for some quick Halo2 action tonight, send a message to "FourDoor". I'll be traveling on business starting tomorrow and will miss the last day Halo2 is online.
dslgunstar
Banned
Hmmmm....if there's a slayer mode with loadouts in The Arena, then thats likely the only one Ill bother to play.
Leotarius said:Hey guys, this is gonna be my first long post, so bear with me.
I really think Reach is destined for greatness... and here is why.
First of all, I have had extensive time with all the Halo games so far, but there is something different about Reach. There seems to be this drive in Bungie to truly go above and beyond the call this time with development. Bungie has always been a really talented studio but this time it seems like all the pieces are in place.
Bungie has its engine set and good to go early in the process, (not the case with Halo 1 and 2) Both Halo 1 and 2 were arguably rushed products due to a few errors in the beginning of development. Halo 1 struggled with identity, platform shift, and with being a launch title, and Halo 2 struggled with a scrapping of the engine and some assets late in the project.
Nonetheless both Halo 1 and Halo 2 were fantastic games for many reasons, both innovation and gameplay wise.
With Halo 3, Bungie still had to make up for the fact that it was their first Xbox 360 game which is why I think the graphical leap wasn't as big as many would've liked. Bungie also experimented with disabling hit scan, different story telling techniques, a new spawn weapon, and with a bunch of extra features such as Forge and the Theater. This resulted in one of the most played Xbox live game of all time so not too shabby for experimentation I would say
Although Halo 2 and Halo 3 were great games they were burdened by too much ambition, and the fact that they were part of a trilogy.
And Halo Reach? Oh baby Halo Reach!
One of the greatest things that Reach will benefit from are the mistakes of its predecessors. I am sure Bungie has learned volumes from its mistakes in the past, and this combined with an incredible staff built of Halo vets and new guys with fresh ideas (read: Sage), and mountains of data collected over 9 years will allow them to have a much more successful development process.
Finally, the planet Reach itself is what will hold all these great ideas together. Reach is a blank slate, a place where Bungie can go and introduce us to new experiences and wow us again with massive open spaces filled with mystery and unrelenting combat. With all the features making a return, with all the new features that are being introduced, and with a new lean mean graphics engine we may finally get the "perfect Halo game" that we have all been waiting for.
Man I am ready for this. Are u?
Haha, I know, corny but whatever.
too long did not read
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
OuterWorldVoice said:
This. :lol
Hopefully the only thing we hear or see that is leaked is videos and pics of the game that we already know of, because not really too cool to show something Bungie wanted to announce but a modder beat them too it with off screen pics and videos. Also it would just suck if the build got leaked. So far though Jester seems to not want to show anymore of the build so I think Bungie is safe.
professor_t
Member
EazyB said:
Ethical quandary: Should I tell him I can't offer a F&F invite, or just let him finish?
EazyB said:
Look, I have been a long time Halo fan and I am pretty pumped to play the beta. I put up a pretty detailed post as to why I think Reach is gonna rock. That was it, if you don't like what I wrote, a little constructive criticism would probably go a long way instead of putting someone down.