Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Ten-Song said:
The ODST disc itself is what gives you access. I assume it'll be like Crackdown, in that once the beta goes live, you download it and access it from the ODST campaign disc (which is why they have the extras section there). Pre-ordering ODST gave Sgt. Johnson as a bonus character to play in fire fight.

For the Halo 3 stuff, ALL of Halo 3's multiplayer is on a seperate disc, which includes all the DLC maps and the exclusive ODST ones.
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Wait, what? I ordered ODST through Amazon and there was only one disc...
 
Kimosabae said:
Wait, what? I ordered ODST through Amazon and there was only one disc...
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Huh? If you ordered a new, sealed copy of ODST it will have two discs. The ODST game and The Halo 3 MP Mythic disc.
 
soldat7 said:
Not with SPUs lol. However, ODST featured very clean edges with the visor mode enabled...maybe they have developed a new trick...



Something tells me that the color purple will still be in the game. And blue. I wouldn't fall off the bandwagon yet dude. ;)
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That technique isn't exclusive to the SPU's.
 
Chorazin said:
Huh? If you ordered a new, sealed copy of ODST it will have two discs. The ODST game and The Halo 3 MP Mythic disc.
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LMAO. Never mind. I never even checked the case since I bought it. It's in there. I can't believe I never noticed it.
 
Tashi0106 said:
I got in on the Friends and Family for H3...hoping something similar for Reach :)
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I'm pretty sure they said there wouldn't be such a thing for the Reach Beta in fears of account hacking. I was among the plebs who waited for the official launch... I still cringe every time I see the Crackdown start-up sequence.
 
Letters said:
edit- one more for the pile
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Reminds me of the Starry Night ad (and those weird CG kids).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOJJCEUJow

Still gets me fired up, nearly three years later.
 
They need to start the beta up early April.

pretty please? other wise ill be too busy in May with finals in June. : [
 
The greatest thing Halo 2 had going for it was that E3 demo. I have never replayed a video so much in my entire life. It was fantastic start to finish. I think that level's removal from the game might have been why I was so disappointed in the final product. Meh. My faith in Bungie has been slowly restored with H3 and finally ODST. Hopefully they'll knock Reach out of the park.
 
Nutter said:
Still the BEST Halo commercial/ trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibZrP6TPkIY
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Oh man. Don't even remind me how awesome Halo 2 was. So much was happening in the game compared to the plot in Halo 3 where it was all about Master Chief getting from point A to point C and saving a couple of marines on the way. Halo 2 may have been rushed out resulting in a glitchy unfinished game, but for what it's worth, the story was captivating.
 
U K Narayan said:
I thought those kids were real? I remember reading something at Bungie.net regarding that commercial. It said that the kids and the clumps of grass around them were real. Frankie wrote it, I think?
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It was a joke. At the time there was a debate whether they were CG, when the were not.

EazyB said:
Males

Poor MC. Doesn't have a chance in hell of taking out 6 wraiths and a dozen brutes... with an AR.
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It's a close combat situation. The BR would be useless. With the AR he could mow'em down.
Nutter said:
Still the BEST Halo commercial/ trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibZrP6TPkIY
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Still my favorite game ad of all time. And it uses the game to sell the game, so crazy.
 
I mean really, the commercials/trailers for Halo 3 are probably the best of any game in history. The AMAZING live action stuff, the Starry Night, Announcement teaser, etc etc. They all give me chills/goosebumps to this very day. Too bad the final product wasn't anywhere close to what I imagined... but still an excellent game.


I wonder if it's even possible for them to equal/top those with Reach commercials? I have a feeling that Reach won't be anywhere near the event Halo 2/3 were.
 
Alright, that auction lot pretty much confirms 8vs8 in the beta, right? Unless it's custom games, but I doubt it's that.
 
SimpleDesign said:
Did Microsoft get sick of making money over night or something?
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:lol I just think the loss of Master Chief (No Chief is similar to taking Mario out of Super Mario Brothers and moving onto the story of Toad. It may very well be more interesting and fun, but Mario is the cultural icon and taking him out just doesn't work. Even if I am tired of Chief, the general public probably wouldn't mind if he came back), the loss of an easy identifier (they know Halo 2 is the sequel to Halo, Halo 3 to 2, etc. Reach isn't as easy to understand from first glance. The fact that Wars and ODST came out in the mean time may have further added to the name confusion as well), and the fact that Halo 3 was as big as it was makes me think it won't be topped. Kinda like when musicians use up most of their good ideas and material on the first couple albums, and never quite hit the same level of success as their old stuff. (usually)

edit: clarified my points a little more.
 
anyone else think that possibly when
the frigate broke apart during the portal/halo explosion at the end of Halo 3...that maybe Chief and Cortana hit a wormhole/time split and ended back up orbiting Reach before the battle began?
 
GhaleonEB said:
It's a close combat situation. The BR would be useless. With the AR he could mow'em down.
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A plasma pistol with a BR and he'd b k.

DeadFalling said:
:lol I just think the loss of Master Chief, the loss of an easy identifier (they know Halo 2 is the sequel to Halo, Halo 3 to 2, etc. Reach isn't as easy to understand from first glance), and the fact that Halo 3 was as big as it was makes me think it won't be topped. Kinda like when musicians use up most of their good ideas and material on the first couple albums, and never quite hit the same level of success as their old stuff. (usually)
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New IP
 
I hate myself. I just spent the whole day going through this thread from the trailer release to now.

Anyway, the shadows look much improved even though you still see artifacts. Shadows must be a real bitch to render. Wonder how they will incorporate Natal. They really have to since Natal will be MS next big hardware launch.
 
DeadFalling said:
:lol I just think the loss of Master Chief, the loss of an easy identifier (they know Halo 2 is the sequel to Halo, Halo 3 to 2, etc. Reach isn't as easy to understand from first glance), and the fact that Halo 3 was as big as it was makes me think it won't be topped. Kinda like when musicians use up most of their good ideas and material on the first couple albums, and never quite hit the same level of success as their old stuff. (usually)
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I think this will be marketed like it's Gears of War or Killzone 2 but made by Bungie. I think that alone will get every fucking kid with a wallet excited. It's sort of like how everyone gets their shot with CG and fucks up. Then James Cameron comes along and shows how CG should be used in a movie.
 
GodfatherX said:
anyone else think that possibly when
the frigate broke apart during the portal/halo explosion at the end of Halo 3...that maybe Chief and Cortana hit a wormhole/time split and ended back up orbiting Reach before the battle began?
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:lol That would be a HUGE mistake.
 
DrBo42 said:
:lol That would be a HUGE awesome mistake.
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Fixed.

I always thought time travelling would fit in really well with Halo. Of course I know I'm alone in that thought. Guilty Spark in the library stage in C.E. had me convinced that in Halo 3 the Chief would get new armor and then you'd go back in time and meet Guilty Spark and that's how he knows who you are. That way Bungie could make some key parts from Halo C.E with the Halo 3 engine and the entire part could last like 10 to 20 minutes with you flashing from one scene to another. Seeing yourself fight on the beach etc etc.

Unfortunately that did not happen :(
 
DeadFalling said:
:lol I just think the loss of Master Chief (No Chief is similar to taking Mario out of Super Mario Brothers and moving onto the story of Toad. It may very well be more interesting and fun, but Mario is the cultural icon and taking him out just doesn't work.
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Right! That's why the highest selling FPS of the year features such memorable characters as... that guy with the sweet mustache, and that guy that should be dead but really isn't.
 
clashfan said:
Please don't market it like KZ2. That was the worst marketing eva...
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Not marketing like how KZ 2 was marketed. But marketed as if this is a 'gritty' war game but a Halo 'gritty' war game made by Bungie.
 
joey_z said:
Fixed.

I always thought time travelling would fit in really well with Halo. Of course I know I'm alone in that thought. Guilty Spark in the library stage in C.E. had me convinced that in Halo 3 the Chief would get new armor and then you'd go back in time and meet Guilty Spark and that's how he knows who you are. That way Bungie could make some key parts from Halo C.E with the Halo 3 engine and the entire part could last like 10 to 20 minutes with you flashing from one scene to another. Seeing yourself fight on the beach etc etc.

Unfortunately that did not happen :(
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One of my many frustrations with the trilogy was that Guilty Spark's dialogue was never ultimately explained. ("Last time you asked me....")

Like Cortana's babbling all through Halo 3, it was just cryptic crap that never amounted to anything. Very disappointing.
 
GhaleonEB said:
One of my many frustrations with the trilogy was that Guilty Spark's dialogue was never ultimately explained. ("Last time you asked me....")

Like Cortana's babbling all through Halo 3, it was just cryptic crap that never amounted to anything. Very disappointing.
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Well it was sort of explained in Halo 3 through the terminals. Guilty Spark thought Chief was a forerunner because of the biological makeup. So for e.g. where he says "Last time you asked me..." a forerunner must have asked him a question. Though the problem with this is that the AI could not tell forerunners apart given that he didn't realize Chief wasn't the same person that probably asked him a question.

The part with the Mjolnir doesn't make sense. It means the forerunners also wore Mjolnir armour. But what're the chances that the humans would end up making the armour as well? Unless they were genetically altered during the indexing process to behave a certain way down history in order to be ready for the flood (I think I recall reading something about that happening at AJ).

What bothers me though is that Guilty Spark was saying things to you that even the casual gamer would question because it happens directly during the game. But the casual gamer never finds out the answers in Halo 3 simply because the casual gamer probably doesn't bother with the terminals. Edit: If Bungie brought up the whole Guilty Spark part during gameplay, it should have resolved what he was saying during gameplay and not in terminals. It's lazy development.

Cortana's babbling left me very very disappointed. Ends not with a bang, but with a whimper. But it sort of did end with a bang. It really just was pointless babbling. Instead of going up against the a.i that has helped you through out and force you to kill her, making the gamer feel all sorts of moral implication, we simply...pick her up and run? So much potential it hurts.
 
Cocopjojo said:
Actually, that mishap was good for everyone... Bungie gave us all a few extra days at the end of the Beta. :)
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In the long run yes it was, but I remember taking the day off from work that day it hit since the rest of my friends would finally be able to jump in on the action.

I understand the switch issues was outside of Bungie's hand last time, and seems they have the problem solved this time by making sure the switch is on their side.
 
joey_z said:
Well it was sort of explained in Halo 3 through the terminals. Guilty Spark thought Chief was a forerunner because of the biological makeup. So for e.g. where he says "Last time you asked me..." a forerunner must have asked him a question. Though the problem with this is that the AI could not tell forerunners apart given that he didn't realize Chief wasn't the same person that probably asked him a question.

The part with the Mjolnir doesn't make sense. It means the forerunners also wore Mjolnir armour. But what're the chances that the humans would end up making the armour as well? Unless they were genetically altered during the indexing process to behave a certain way down history in order to be ready for the flood (I think I recall reading something about that happening at AJ).

What bothers me though is that Guilty Spark was saying things to you that even the casual gamer would question because it happens directly during the game. But the casual gamer never finds out the answers in Halo 3 simply because the casual gamer probably doesn't bother with the terminals.

Cortana's babbling left me very very disappointed. Ends not with a bang, but with a whimper. But it sort of did end with a bang. It really just was pointless babbling. Instead of going up against the a.i that has helped you through out and force you to kill her, making the gamer feel all sorts of moral implication, we simply...pick her up and run? So much potential it hurts.
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You make some really good points. I guess the time travel could have worked, but I always feel like it's a cop out in a story. With Cortana though, I was banking on her going rogue especially with that insane banter in the Halo 3 early trailer/reveal with the arc. I completely agree with you that this long road with her through the games would have resulted in a huge moral choice/emotional response when you'd have to eventually take her down. The problem with every Halo game is that the story is never really aware of its potential, and the character development is so barren. These characters CAN have depth, even if they're behind helmets and sets of armor. ODST finally started to rectify that, hopefully it continues to build in Reach.
 
GhaleonEB said:
One of my many frustrations with the trilogy was that Guilty Spark's dialogue was never ultimately explained. ("Last time you asked me....")

Like Cortana's babbling all through Halo 3, it was just cryptic crap that never amounted to anything. Very disappointing.
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Cosigned. I was really interested in what all would happen with these characters, but it really ended up being not much or nothing at all in GS's case.
 
DrBo42 said:
You make some really good points. I guess the time travel could have worked, but I always feel like it's a cop out in a story. With Cortana though, I was banking on her going rogue especially with that insane banter in the Halo 3 early trailer/reveal with the arc. I completely agree with you that this long road with her through the games would have resulted in a huge moral choice/emotional response when you'd have to eventually take her down. The problem with every Halo game is that the story is never really aware of its potential, and the character development is so barren. These characters CAN have depth, even if they're behind helmets and sets of armor. ODST finally started to rectify that, hopefully it continues to build in Reach.
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It's especially disappointing to me because of how amazing the books are. It's obviously harder to convey that sort of emotional detail, but...argh. I feel like Bungie could do it if they really tried.
 
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