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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed

Kibbles

Kibbles

Member
Akira said:
Someone please GIF the part at 1:10 where Lone Wolf blocks one of the lights outside and his armor reflects the change in lighting! This trailer disappointed me graphically at first, but after multiple views the graphics are quite stunning. The attention to detail is superb. I hope the gameplay will match this trailer.
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Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
Kyzer said:
I mean, hey if you wanna read my one post and take it out of context and not read the conversation that it was a part of, then by all means, ask me who gives a shit.

Because really, I can say "Who gives a shit" to a 99% of the posts on this forum,
inb4 "who gives a shit?"
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who gives...crap....well played Kyzer, well played indeed. :D
 
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Kyzer

Banned
Not a Jellyfish said:
who gives...crap....well played Kyzer, well played indeed. :D
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hahaha

Well, I agree with you all that the quality of these games are really great and that i'm sure Reach will be no exception.
 
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Poimandres

Member
Why For? said:
God of War has 4 in those same 9 years across 3 consoles, but fact is, it's still 4 God of War games across 9 years (5 if you want to count the 1 and 2 Collection).
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Actually, it's 4 games in 5 years for GOW.

Just saying.

For Reach, I'm quite excited but I hope they keep a decent amount of colour. A little darker/grungier I can understand, but I hope it's not all depressingly brown.
 
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Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Kyzer said:
I mean, hey if you wanna read my one post and take it out of context and not read the conversation that it was a part of, then by all means, ask me who gives a shit.

Because really, I can say "Who gives a shit" to a 99% of the posts on this forum,
inb4 "who gives a shit?"
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There's nothing to take out of context. You said it used to be one of the least milked, and now it's going to be one of the most milked (hell, it's your first post in this thread, too; what a way to enter this 'conversation' you're a part of).

So in turn, I tell you "who gives a shit?" Who cares how many more Halo, God of War, FF, Mario, Zelda and Modern Warfare games are going to come out?
 
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Thermite

Member
Kyzer said:
I'd say that it USED TO BE one of the least milked, and at this moment in time, is about to become one of the most milked.
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My god this hyerbole. Call of Duty and Mario say "hello". Pretty sure releasing Halo 3, ODST and Halo Wars two years later, and now Reach a year after the expansion doesn't qualify as "about to become one of the most milked".

There's literally been a Call of Duty every year since CoD 2 released. And there has been a fuckton amount of Mario games released since 2007.
 
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Kyzer

Banned
Domino Theory said:
There's nothing to take out of context. You said it used to be one of the least milked, and now it's going to be one of the most milked (hell, it's your first post in this thread, too; what a way to enter this 'conversation' you're a part of).

So in turn, I tell you "who gives a shit?" Who cares how many more Halo, God of War, FF, Mario, Zelda and Modern Warfare games are going to come out?
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See? I wouldn't have to answer your question if you read it all.

No one cares. There was speculation on future sales, someone said they diluted the name, and in response, someone else said that Halo was one of the least milked franchises along with GoW and Zelda. I responded to that statement. Now, if you really wanna be a dick about it, I coulda just said "I don't give a shit if you don't give a shit because I wasn't even talking to you." but, instead, I'm explaining the context of my statement.

Thermite said:
My god this hyerbole. Call of Duty and Mario say "hello". Pretty sure releasing Halo 3, ODST and Halo Wars two years later, and now Reach a year after the expansion doesn't qualify as "about to become one of the most milked".

There's literally been a Call of Duty every year since CoD 2 released. And there has been a fuckton amount of Mario games released since 2007.
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You're absolutely right. You have successfully defended the valour of the Halo franchise from me, who was clearly attacking it.

So anyways....
 
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Meier

Member
Not a big Halo fan really.. still havent even bothered to play 3 or ODST. Watched the teaser for Reach and it looks pretty cool. I could see myself giving it a go.
 
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Thermite

Member
Kyzer said:
You're absolutely right. You have successfully defended the valour of the Halo franchise from me, who was clearly attacking it.

So anyways....
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I was simply disputing your point. If you want to take that as me "defending" and you "attacking", well, go right ahead. :lol
 
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Kyzer

Banned
Thermite said:
I was simply disputing your point. If you want to take that as me "defending" and you "attacking", well, go right ahead. :lol
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Sorry dude, i'm in defense mode right now. :lol
 
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Why For?

Banned
Kyzer said:
haha, my bad. I didn't make it clear that I was trying to support that one guy. and then the guy had to go and compare Halo to GoW and Zelda, when that's clearly not the case. Here's the revised list:

Wii:
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (gamecube game)
Zelda Wii

OR

DS:
Zelda PH
Zelda ST



OR


PSP:
GoW CoO

OR

PS3:
God of War Collection (PS2 games)
God of War 3


VS:

360:
Halo Reach
Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Wars
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I wasn't comparing Halo with Zelda and God of War, I was saying in terms of GAMES RELEASED in the last 9 years, Halo is almost on level with those 2.

But you broke it down more, and went on about console lifespans.

My argument is, why does the console lifespan matter? It's 6 Halo games in 9 years. What console they were released on seems completely irrelevant.

Same way it's 5 God of War games, which console I got to play them on seems to be of no importance.

So again, my onl point was, that like God of War and Zelda (which don't get milked), Halo doesn't get milked as bad as some may think.
 
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Chrange

Banned
Kyzer said:
You say this with the knowledge of 4+ games that are going to have been released on a single console within a span of 5 years?

...

Come on.

I'd say that it USED TO BE one of the least milked, and at this moment in time, is about to become one of the most milked. Just like I'm sure eventually they'll have Modern Warfare: Ghost and all sorts of other shit.
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Check out Activision's "Hero" games some time :lol :lol
 
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Why For?

Banned
Poimandres said:
Actually, it's 4 games in 5 years for GOW.

Just saying.

For Reach, I'm quite excited but I hope they keep a decent amount of colour. A little darker/grungier I can understand, but I hope it's not all depressingly brown.
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I KNOW.

I'm just saying, I was taking the period that HALO has been around.

2001-2010 (since we're discussing Reach and including it in the 'milk' argument)

So by THAT range it's 4 (5) games in 9 years. Halo is 6. Not so different.

To me personally, TRUE milk is when you're looking at maybe 10 games plus in a 10 year period because you're in the 'game a year' territory, which is a bit much.
 
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Kyzer

Banned
Why For? said:
I KNOW.

I'm just saying, I was taking the period that HALO has been around.

2001-2010 (since we're discussing Reach and including it in the 'milk' argument)

So by THAT range it's 4 (5) games in 9 years. Halo is 6. Not so different.

To me personally, TRUE milk is when you're looking at maybe 10 games plus in a 10 year period because you're in the 'game a year' territory, which is a bit much.
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Look, I shouldn't have even used the word "milk".

I'm just saying that the name is definitely not as pristine as it used to be. And the reason I use console is because the dilution comes from all of these games being released ON THE SAME CONSOLE to the SAME EXACT potential market.
 
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TTG

Member
Dani said:
I would argue strongly against that statement if you care to back it up.
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Halo Wars went down as another average attempt at an RTS on consoles, I haven't played it so I won't speculate on the quality of the product, just the reaction. The main problems is that the ads were pure CG, the fact that it was an RTS wasn't anywhere to be found in the tv ad. Going by some friends' experiences and the tv ad, I'm betting there were a lot of confused faces when they started the game up.

ODST was an expansion pack with a full game price tag. This topic has been discussed enough already, so no need to get into that again.

No major blunders, but when the previous products have been triple A, people will be more cautious.
 
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squidhands

Member
NullPointer said:
MS should make a 10 minute web movie event about the origin of the spartans, and mankind's pre-fall of reach history. Make it with the same sensibilities as the We Are ODST ad.

Then just sit back and count the monies.
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They would certainly be counting mine. The ODST commercial was awesome beyond words.

GhaleonEB said:
I'm hoping the Beta will provide a glipse of more than just traditional MP. Firefight, for instance.
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You know, I never thought about that. It would be great if there were betas for both the standard MP and Firefight. That would be incredible, actually.
*tentpole rising*
 
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Talon

Member
NullPointer said:
Didn't find it dull so much as a change of pace and threat from Halo 3. if I wanted continuous action I'd pop Halo 3 back in.
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By dull I meant repetitive and tiresome rather than low in action.
 
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user_nat

THE WORDS! They'll drift away without the _!
Kyzer said:
Look, I shouldn't have even used the word "milk".

I'm just saying that the name is definitely not as pristine as it used to be. And the reason I use console is because the dilution comes from all of these games being released ON THE SAME CONSOLE to the SAME EXACT potential market.
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Modern Warfare 2 is the 5th Call of Duty game on the 360 (6 with CoD Classic, and when Reach comes out another one), and it just broke every sales record out there. Clearly having more than 2 games on the same console doesn't always kill a franchise.
 
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spanks

Member
I kinda think the franchise's popularity peaked with Halo 3. The main reason Halo got popular in the first place was because of it's multiplayer, which never had much competition (in the console realm, obviously.) Nowadays with Call of Duty... well you get the point. It'll still sell well, no doubt, but beating MW2 sales-wise is a bit of a reach (pun lol).
 
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clashfan

Member
Kyzer said:
Look, I shouldn't have even used the word "milk".

I'm just saying that the name is definitely not as pristine as it used to be. And the reason I use console is because the dilution comes from all of these games being released ON THE SAME CONSOLE to the SAME EXACT potential market.
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Don't come in here with your emo avatar and spout rubbish. This is a thread for men!
 
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TTG

Member
Talon- said:
By dull I meant repetitive and tiresome rather than low in action.
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Patrol units in an open world environment tend to do that, especially when there's no way to get rid of them permenetly.
 
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Talon

Member
TTG said:
Patrol units in an open world environment tend to do that, especially when there's no way to get rid of them permenetly.
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I was speaking about the architectural layout. A man can only walk through so many dark corridors and alleys before he goes crazy. Bungie's at its best with combat design in linear circumstances. Case in point, Sierra 117 is perfectly designed in terms of cover placement and line of sight. Didn't get that feeling in ODST.

Didn't mind the patrols much except when there were snipers in every corner of the large atrium areas.
 
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Iknos

Junior Member
Akira said:
I meant this scene:
mjtzmc.jpg


Shows the improvements in the lighting engine (if it is really in-game)
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What improvement exactly?

Halo 3's cutscenes had great lighting as well. Looks very similar to me.
 
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Stormtrooper30

Member
Iknos said:
What improvement exactly?

Halo 3's cutscenes had great lighting as well. Looks very similar to me.
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It looks damn good if you ask me. I don't remember ever being awwed by Halo 3's lighting (except the E3 trailer). I love the shadows that show up on Kat's armor.
 
godhandiscen

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
GhaleonEB said:
I'm hoping the Beta will provide a glipse of more than just traditional MP. Firefight, for instance.
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Competitive Firefight sounds cool.
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Sorry if this was posted already. Here's a short (very short) interview 1up's Sam Kennedy did with Marty O'Donnell and Curtis Creamer before the VGA's on the Red Carpet. Touches on music for ODST and Reach as well as some MP beta. Nothing new, but I just thought I'd post it anywho.

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/27382
 
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riceandbeans

Member
Iknos said:
What improvement exactly?

Halo 3's cutscenes had great lighting as well. Looks very similar to me.
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The lighting in Halo 3 was jaw dropping, some of the best out there and still is today. Now let's see if they can finally get the resolution up to 720p this time around.
 
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lybertyboy

Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
duk said:
Marty is amazing
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I do love Marty.

We were about to get some (hopefully) juicy information in the interview when he (Marty) stepped in with, "I think all we're allowed to say is that there is a Reach beta coming."

Instafrown
 
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Oozer3993

Member
FourDoor said:
Anyone have a link to a frame by frame analysis of the VGA vid yet?
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I'm thinking of putting something together. I've already started consolidating some information for it.

ZZMitch said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWGeB1564Xw&feature=sub

I'm sorry if this is old... some of you might not care, but I like IGN's rewind trailers... and they made one for the Reach Trailer so... Ya :D
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Not bad, but they missed a lot (I think lol). And I'm not so sure Winter Contingency has anything to do with erasing information pertaining to Earth's location. That's already called the Cole Protocol. It seems odd to me that they wouldn't call it that as a nod to the fans if that's what they were talking about.
 
godhandiscen

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
ZZMitch said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWGeB1564Xw&feature=sub

I'm sorry if this is old... some of you might not care, but I like IGN's rewind trailers... and they made one for the Reach Trailer so... Ya :D
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Wow, I can't believe these guys get paid to do such a mediocre analysis. I remember Luke Smith's analysis of the first Halo vidoc, that stuff was insightful. It takes a Halo fan to do one of these analysis. These guys just read the first pages of what is out there in every other forum.
 
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Nutter

Member
You guys do realise the easiest come back to kyzer would have been to just quote his avatar..

How many Final Fantasy 13's are their going to be.. think about that and let it sink in.
 
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NullPointer

Member
Talon- said:
I was speaking about the architectural layout. A man can only walk through so many dark corridors and alleys before he goes crazy. Bungie's at its best with combat design in linear circumstances. Case in point, Sierra 117 is perfectly designed in terms of cover placement and line of sight. Didn't get that feeling in ODST.
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OK, on this I completely agree. I am a monstrous whore for open world games, as I love to explore every nook and cranny and see the thought and love that went into crafting whole neighborhoods that are easy to ignore in the quest to advance the plot.

But New Mombassa didn't hold much... identity, is I guess the right word. It didn't look lived in, and it didn't look much like a slipspace rupture tore its heart out either. The audio logs tried to instill more of a sense of place and humanity to the city, but it only makes the end result stand out more in stark contrast. If anything, the place looks like its been abandoned for years, with no reason for the covenant to be there, much less to keep a constant patrol going.

Would've loved to see more ad-hoc reactions. Humans holed up and in need of medical supplies. Crazies walking the streets with signs of the end times. Seeing Elites being cut down by Brutes from afar. Signal bonfires from ex-cops hoping for rescue, etc. etc. etc. Something, worth saving.

As it was, all you could rely upon to tell one district from the next was large emblazoned numbers on random buildings. It was a solid first foray into a more open ended world - and if Bungie decides to give it a more expanded go, I hope they give the hub a real sense of place, of purpose, and fill it with more than just random enemies.
 
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