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HaloGAF |OT: Anniversary| So fades the great harvest of our betrayal.
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Nirvana
Member
All this talk of the third person mechanic is giving me nasty flashbacks. I don't want to be taken from first person at all while playing Halo. Armour Lock, Thrusters, Evade, all of them were jarring to look at -the only time should be in vehicles. If we have to have thrusters, just propel us in first person, like a fast moving strafe.
I really want sprint gone as well. All it does is add a button press for an animation that can exist without it. I hold the stick slightly forward, my Spartan walks slow, all the way, he appears to be sprinting - just adjust the movement speed so it's higher.
Maps haven't felt the right size since ODST Firefight maps, and it kills fluidity of movement through use of strafing.
I really want sprint gone as well. All it does is add a button press for an animation that can exist without it. I hold the stick slightly forward, my Spartan walks slow, all the way, he appears to be sprinting - just adjust the movement speed so it's higher.
Maps haven't felt the right size since ODST Firefight maps, and it kills fluidity of movement through use of strafing.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
*Cough* Dexterity, resupply, shielding, resistor, recharge and mobility. I so want an arena experience with this or no sprint (sans resistor & mobility). It sings to me about being an elite Spartan and really would amplify the traditional gameplay too.
The weapons management combined with mid engagement switching would be a little meta game in itself. The ability to quickly reload or switch would enable you to tackle multiple enemies for that solo beast mode. Finally shielding combined with recharge would speed up gameplay and movement while maximising the attack counter-attack that is so present in Halo firefights and map design e.g. awareness, feinting, baiting and cat & mouse tactics with radar.
As for the new stuff I like the idea of the heavy weight for ground pound or the hip and shoulder style melee in the trailer too. Again those sorts of Spartan base traits as you say are quite welcomed by me.
User 73706
Banned
Real talk, would love to marry a last name that goes with Wahrer so we can use both and start a badass lineage. Wahrer-Lorde is p up there.
So, in the sense that fettucini alfredo is mac n' cheese for adults, Game of Thrones is Homestuck for adults, right?
happy father's day halopappy
I'll fix it when I'm home
If an info / stat drop can double as a blog post, I'd count it as a megapost. Megaposts aren't inherently bad, it's just that I'm the Red Scare Communism to your Socialism in the word count department.
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
I actually enjoy having sprint in the game. I'm down for having the option to turn it off for different gametypes (more options=better) but of all the additions to the game I feel it's among the least "offensive" and doesn't really hurt the overall game.
It provides a trade off between a boost in speed and the ability to shoot momentarily. If they get rid of double beat downs then all the better. It also provides opportunities for unique map traversal. I do agree that the base movement speed needs to be increased as it is ridiculously slow and strafing still isn't viable enough with the way everything is set up. However I think it still has a place in the game.
I'm really looking forward to see what they do with Spartan abilities since they'll be a base trait everyone has. Begs the question though of whether it will all be context sensitive or just something you can activate whenever.
MrGreencastle
Member
x-post//The following text and speculation is highly disjointed, so beware, I still have some gaps to fill 
Also, there may be spoilers for pretty much every piece of fiction at some point in these posts, so watch out!
~Green's Musings Part One
Here are some images of the mysterious ship from CEA:
And the Sarcophagus that 343GS built around it after the distress beacon stopped. There were 7 flatlining monitors on-screen when this happened:
We know that the Domain has been destroyed, so 343GS can't use that to find out what the broadcast says. He seems to believe that the ship is of a short-range nature, though he wouldn't be able to confirm it, and the existence of slipspace technology in the universe also has me skeptical of this conclusion. The broadcast repeated every 72.83 seconds. I'm still unsure of the relevancy of this (as was 343GS!).
I highlight the fish-ship, as the human's description of some of the ships throughout the book is constantly relating it to fish. Interesting, anyway, as we are more familiar with the angular design of Forerunner architecture.
A guess? This could be some kind of a Forerunner ship. Or maybe the remnants of the humans that lived on the rings at some point. If so, what would they have had to say? It's hard to prove this, as you'd think 343 would be able to recognize it. And there's that strange language that we can't seem to relate to anything we've seen so far. (I'll discuss this again later, in a future post...there may be much more to this than meets the eye...)
Either way, since it is on Alpha Halo, this image from Halo Nightfall comes to mind for some reason:
I'll keep throwing down ideas. We know that Nightfall tells the origin story of Agent Locke in some manner. Why is the visual ID clearly of what I'm going to assume is a piece of the broken Alpha Halo? What could there possibly still be there that is so important that it is the titular image? I'm going to guess that Agent Locke and his team of ONI "Spartan Agents" visit here for some reason. Perhaps for this ship? I'm giddy at the thought. Perhaps he learns something here that causes him to question many things. And what about this much deeper danger? Does it have something to do with the Flood? Halo's were also vast research stations as well. Maybe... Or is it something else? I will come back to this later...
Another possibility: This promotional image is of a remnant piece of Installation 07, the last remaining of the original Halo Array, created by the Greater Ark (and "weaker" compared to the newer 6 Halos). These rings were 30 000km wide rather than the 10 000 of the 6 newer installations that were created by the newer Installation 00 - the Lesser Ark. After being severely damaged during one of the final battles of the Flood-Forerunner war, it shed many of it's parts (saved by IsoDidact and 343/Chakas as it passed around a planet), and reduced itself in size, becoming covered in perpetual clouds, forever hiding the atrocities committed by the Primordial, Mendicant Bias, and the Master Builder Faber (namely, crazy genocidal Flood experiments on native humans that lived on the Ring (Palace of Pain)... Food for though anyway. I still think it's the broken Alpha Halo.
To be continued...
Also, there may be spoilers for pretty much every piece of fiction at some point in these posts, so watch out!~Green's Musings Part One
Here are some images of the mysterious ship from CEA:
And the Sarcophagus that 343GS built around it after the distress beacon stopped. There were 7 flatlining monitors on-screen when this happened:
We know that the Domain has been destroyed, so 343GS can't use that to find out what the broadcast says. He seems to believe that the ship is of a short-range nature, though he wouldn't be able to confirm it, and the existence of slipspace technology in the universe also has me skeptical of this conclusion. The broadcast repeated every 72.83 seconds. I'm still unsure of the relevancy of this (as was 343GS!).
I highlight the fish-ship, as the human's description of some of the ships throughout the book is constantly relating it to fish. Interesting, anyway, as we are more familiar with the angular design of Forerunner architecture.
A guess? This could be some kind of a Forerunner ship. Or maybe the remnants of the humans that lived on the rings at some point. If so, what would they have had to say? It's hard to prove this, as you'd think 343 would be able to recognize it. And there's that strange language that we can't seem to relate to anything we've seen so far. (I'll discuss this again later, in a future post...there may be much more to this than meets the eye...)
Either way, since it is on Alpha Halo, this image from Halo Nightfall comes to mind for some reason:
I'll keep throwing down ideas. We know that Nightfall tells the origin story of Agent Locke in some manner. Why is the visual ID clearly of what I'm going to assume is a piece of the broken Alpha Halo? What could there possibly still be there that is so important that it is the titular image? I'm going to guess that Agent Locke and his team of ONI "Spartan Agents" visit here for some reason. Perhaps for this ship? I'm giddy at the thought. Perhaps he learns something here that causes him to question many things. And what about this much deeper danger? Does it have something to do with the Flood? Halo's were also vast research stations as well. Maybe... Or is it something else? I will come back to this later...
Another possibility: This promotional image is of a remnant piece of Installation 07, the last remaining of the original Halo Array, created by the Greater Ark (and "weaker" compared to the newer 6 Halos). These rings were 30 000km wide rather than the 10 000 of the 6 newer installations that were created by the newer Installation 00 - the Lesser Ark. After being severely damaged during one of the final battles of the Flood-Forerunner war, it shed many of it's parts (saved by IsoDidact and 343/Chakas as it passed around a planet), and reduced itself in size, becoming covered in perpetual clouds, forever hiding the atrocities committed by the Primordial, Mendicant Bias, and the Master Builder Faber (namely, crazy genocidal Flood experiments on native humans that lived on the Ring (Palace of Pain)... Food for though anyway. I still think it's the broken Alpha Halo.
To be continued...
Touché
Orochinagis
Member
Could be interesting if they retake that ship for further games, a new faction will be welcome or a ancient human faction retaking their ships after the covenant were defeated.
This is all well and good, but Sprint practically ruins all good Arena map designs for Halo. They are either too large and open to make up for the extra speed, or they are small and Sprint makes traversing them, and getting out of bad situations trivial. Higher base move speed and well designed maps with clever jumps, shortcuts, and God forbid bring back Teleporters to Halo and I feel that would be preferable to just giving people Sprint.
Like I have always said, Halo should go back to being the Medium paced Console Quake that it started out as, focus on powerups (timing and positioning), a balanced sandbox that isn't too bloated with repetitive weapons, and clever map design to facilitate interesting encounters and ebbs and flow in map control and movement.
Interesting you bring up the ship and Alpha Halo. I do think that Nightfall will revisit Installation 04, but unlike you I think it's Installation 04b. We don't know the timeframe, but we do know at some point ONI finds a way to reactivate the Ark portal/get there somehow, and that something went down, and they found what remained of 343GS. Perhaps Nightfall is telling this story.
Your idea is intriguing as well though
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
This time is over.
343 are caught between MS and old school fans. Halo is the flagship franchise. It has to do big members. The consoley quake isn't what thevmasses want anymore.
The MCC is very clever in that it will show what kinda numbers even the older games can attain now, player count wise.
Personally I don't mind if halo 5 dies change things up, if it doesn't work out, I'll still have the older games to play. Until they fix it or get it right next time.
NobleGundam
Banned
Where'd this came from??? Pretty good art. Almost thought it was an Escalation Cover.
https://twitter.com/HaloDispatch/status/478731680656928768
https://twitter.com/HaloDispatch/status/478731680656928768
Sometime I get this cynical feeling that they are pushing out the best version of the classic Halos just to prove that the player-counts will fall just as quickly.
Of course it's nonsense. But the mass-reaction to people playing the classics will be really, really interesting.
If I can peel myself away from the screen at launch, I'll be keeping my eye on the community at large.
LinkToTheFuture
Member
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
Examples of things to include:
- Any HaloGaffers you know in real life.
I don't know any =X
- Other Halo sites/forums you have been a member of.
I barely posted a little on waypoint/beyond as non of the discussions I was a part of seemed to go anywhere. I cant remember any other forums I was halo talking on besides those 2.
- Any other games you spend a lot of time playing.
Video Game Consoles I Own: Nintendo 3DS, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Nintendo Wii U. I also have a hyper powered laptop with a desktop GPU in it xD But strangely enough the only pc based game I play is Phantasy Star Online 2 sometimes.
Favorite Video Games: Halo Series, Golden Sun Series, Phantasy Star Universe, Phantasy Star Online 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Ninja Gaiden Series, Dead Or Alive Series, Mario Series, Street Fighter Series, Zelda Series, Gears Of War Series, Final Fantasy Series, Dragon Ball Sparking Series, Almost Every Sonic Game, Dead Rising Series, Mario Kart Series, Super Smash Bros Series, Mirrors Edge, Metal Gear Solid Series, Kirby Series, Donkey Kong Series, Handheld Pokemon Series, Bayonetta, Anarchy Reigns, Vanquish, Yoshi Series, Titanfall.
As of right now Im only really playing halo, mario kart 8, occasional Phantasy Star Online 2 & making people paranoid through invasions in watch dogs on xbox one :3
- Personal bio stuff. (occupation/hobbies/etc.)
I really enjoy dancing, spending time and having fun with my friends on and offline, studying, swimming, DDR, sushi and other things. Currently, I express my love of dancing/fashion/makeup on youtube, and at anime conventions ! Its a side thing of fun as my career is fashion / cosmetology so it ties in very well! Random but my favorite dinner is Nabe Yaki Udon!
Uncontrollably hyped for the MCC & the Halo 5 beta =) I am also very excited for the return of Phantom Dust, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid, Gears of War & Mirrors Edge. New franchises I am looking forward too: Sunset Overdrive, Devils Third, DragonBall Xenoverse & Destiny.
I enjoy Anime as well. Here are some of my faves: Dragon Ball Series, Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass, Code Geass R2, Clannad, Durarara!!, Tenjou Tenge, K-On!, D Gray man, Sailor Moon, Tokyo Mew Mew, Lucky Star, Ghost In The Shell Series, Ikki Tousen, Bleach, Kekkaishi, Deathnote, Big O, Dragon Ball Z Series, Kiddy Grade, Kiddy Girl AND, Excel Saga, Detective Conan, Black Lagoon, Attack On Titan, FLCL, Space Dandy, Sword Art Online, Inuyasha, Elfen Lied,
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!, Kuroko no Basuke, Kyoukai no Kanata, Freezing, Noragami, Guilty Crown, k, Free!, Shingeki no Kyojin, Carneval, Fruits Basket & Pokemon ( ^ o ^ )
Sorry this was long and most gaffers might not read it DX.
Examples of things to include:
- Any HaloGaffers you know in real life.
I don't know any =X
- Other Halo sites/forums you have been a member of.
I barely posted a little on waypoint/beyond as non of the discussions I was a part of seemed to go anywhere. I cant remember any other forums I was halo talking on besides those 2.
- Any other games you spend a lot of time playing.
Video Game Consoles I Own: Nintendo 3DS, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Nintendo Wii U. I also have a hyper powered laptop with a desktop GPU in it xD But strangely enough the only pc based game I play is Phantasy Star Online 2 sometimes.
Favorite Video Games: Halo Series, Golden Sun Series, Phantasy Star Universe, Phantasy Star Online 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Ninja Gaiden Series, Dead Or Alive Series, Mario Series, Street Fighter Series, Zelda Series, Gears Of War Series, Final Fantasy Series, Dragon Ball Sparking Series, Almost Every Sonic Game, Dead Rising Series, Mario Kart Series, Super Smash Bros Series, Mirrors Edge, Metal Gear Solid Series, Kirby Series, Donkey Kong Series, Handheld Pokemon Series, Bayonetta, Anarchy Reigns, Vanquish, Yoshi Series, Titanfall.
As of right now Im only really playing halo, mario kart 8, occasional Phantasy Star Online 2 & making people paranoid through invasions in watch dogs on xbox one :3
- Personal bio stuff. (occupation/hobbies/etc.)
I really enjoy dancing, spending time and having fun with my friends on and offline, studying, swimming, DDR, sushi and other things. Currently, I express my love of dancing/fashion/makeup on youtube, and at anime conventions ! Its a side thing of fun as my career is fashion / cosmetology so it ties in very well! Random but my favorite dinner is Nabe Yaki Udon!
Uncontrollably hyped for the MCC & the Halo 5 beta =) I am also very excited for the return of Phantom Dust, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear Solid, Gears of War & Mirrors Edge. New franchises I am looking forward too: Sunset Overdrive, Devils Third, DragonBall Xenoverse & Destiny.
I enjoy Anime as well. Here are some of my faves: Dragon Ball Series, Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass, Code Geass R2, Clannad, Durarara!!, Tenjou Tenge, K-On!, D Gray man, Sailor Moon, Tokyo Mew Mew, Lucky Star, Ghost In The Shell Series, Ikki Tousen, Bleach, Kekkaishi, Deathnote, Big O, Dragon Ball Z Series, Kiddy Grade, Kiddy Girl AND, Excel Saga, Detective Conan, Black Lagoon, Attack On Titan, FLCL, Space Dandy, Sword Art Online, Inuyasha, Elfen Lied,
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!, Kuroko no Basuke, Kyoukai no Kanata, Freezing, Noragami, Guilty Crown, k, Free!, Shingeki no Kyojin, Carneval, Fruits Basket & Pokemon ( ^ o ^ )
Sorry this was long and most gaffers might not read it DX.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
So with MCC dedis, 1080p, 60fps for online Halo 1-4 are you going to be more open to change with Halo 5 mechanics or map design?
Do you want an additional big scale large player count Halo mode? Personally I see something like this a total given for Halo 5, considering dedis or coop or up-scaled BTB.
Do you want an additional big scale large player count Halo mode? Personally I see something like this a total given for Halo 5, considering dedis or coop or up-scaled BTB.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Damn, even Mario Kart fans are begging for arena maps..
It's pretty shitty that there are no actual battle arenas in MK8
nillapuddin
Member
(did some googling)
whaaaa
Issue 8
The Master Chief returns in The Next 72 Hours: Part 1! After defeating the Didact, John-117 joined the crew of Infinity . . . but why did he leave? The mystery begins here. Halo® lead writer Brian Reed (Amazing Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel) reveals the secret events that immediately follow the end of Halo 4.
Issue 9
In the days following the events of Halo 4, the Master Chief faced one of his greatest challenges. Halo® lead writer Brian Reed (Amazing Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel) takes the Master Chief from the fires of Halo 4 to the pages of Escalation in The Next 72 Hours Part 2!
Issue 10
The Master Chief returns in "The Next 72 Hours" part 3! What happened to the Master Chief immediately following the events of Halo 4, and what do those events mean for the future of the crew on the UNSC Infinity? Halo lead writer Brian Reed (Amazing Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel) and Ricardo Sánchez reveal all in the thrilling conclusion to this Halo event!
That's the cover art for issue 10. Comes out at the end of September according to this http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53479
Orochinagis
Member
So we have to wait 10 issues to actually now the main plot about chief whereabout
Also dolphin helmet
- Give the ability to turn off Sprint for customs as well as certain gametypes
- Design a few maps around a gameplay style akin to the original Halo arena multiplayer
- Increase base movement speed across the board
Naturally the dedicated arena maps should NOT just be a bunch of forge maps. Figured I'd put that out there.
I think we will get along nicely.
Nirvana
Member
Basically this. Sprint isn't technically problematic as a gameplay mechanic, but due to its implementation it has the residual effect of altering how the game designers build maps. Halo 4's maps all either felt too small or too big, there was never that Pit/Guardian/Lockout sweet spot. Perhaps Exile was about right, and Haven felt ok, if a little small. Those two were about it though.
NobleGundam
Banned
Wow awesome! I kept checking Dark Horse Comics and didnt see it there.
Thanks guys.
I really like your avatar. I kinda wish they sold Halo 2 Anniversary separately so I could have that cover.
oh my god, to think of the amazing possibilities that can spring from this, first off with it being as Fuchsdh said, which is installation 04b, to think of it from a film stand point, wouldn't it be amazing for Locke to walk into a dark room, save for one small blinking red and blue light, it hovers above him staggering and says, "Oh, hello!" as we all remember 343GS saying. GOD that would be amazing.
So what is all your opinions on the Halo 4 armor returning for Halo 5, from the looks of the Beta trailer.
I'm slightly disappointed. If the crazy designs are returning, I at least hope the skins are more detailed and grittier, and actually look like proper Spartan Plating, rather then plastic. Same thing goes for the visors. Everything about Halo 4 Spartans looks like they're plastic, with faded colors for their skin.
Make the armor look like metal, and the visors look like glass like previous games. Please.
Or you could probably please most people if Spartans looked like what Masterchief did in cutscenes
I'm slightly disappointed. If the crazy designs are returning, I at least hope the skins are more detailed and grittier, and actually look like proper Spartan Plating, rather then plastic. Same thing goes for the visors. Everything about Halo 4 Spartans looks like they're plastic, with faded colors for their skin.
Make the armor look like metal, and the visors look like glass like previous games. Please.
Or you could probably please most people if Spartans looked like what Masterchief did in cutscenes
I should really get around to reading escalation.
Chief's new armor is actually something I was really happy with.
I'm just hoping they bring back more of the simplistic designs. A lot
95%
I do hope sad face helmet returns though. This time with anime tears.
#Hayabusakatana4evah
Orochinagis
Member
Didnt Spartans IV are silver color but we got blue ones on spartan ops and later one custom colors in the comics?
And I remember S-II were green
NobleGundam
Banned
Thanks =)
Got it from waypoint: https://s3cmsassets.blob.core.windo...get-gold-57a37f6aa2264e05a282e5d711f4bed8.jpg
Same here. "Were it so easy."
Twin Tails
Member
No other game will exist from Nov 11, 2014 to Feb 24, 2015(Witcher3) besides the MC Collection. Halo will be on all day ever day no sleep, mountain dew. im so hyped
"Wake me when you have Doritos" - John-117
but who could deny this
On the armor topic, I'm not that much a fan of Locke's armor (mostly his helmet). It looks really cool and all, but it seems like it's supposed have that "badass" look to it and makes it seem a little cheesy. Like they said, "Here's a new character who's supposed to be the foil to the Master Chief, so we have to make him a badass to make sure people understand he's on Chief's level."
Not a big issue though and I'm sure I'll get used to it, just got reminded of it with the armor discussion.
Still annoyed that they made us pay for MK V in Halo 4. I mean, I did it. But still. Shitty thing to do, IMO.
Wahrer thinks you are reasonable? Even that techobabble cat-wearing-shades acknowledges that!
I actually like the fishbowl from Halo 3, too. It looks like crap in Halo 4 though.
Here's a random thought. How many people would like to have the Halo 3 Beta versions of Valhalla, Snowbound, and High Ground in the MCC?
This would also include the weapons. So Beta Carbine, Beta Tripmine, etc.
The issue with this is this more than likely requires porting the Halo 3 Beta itself for the engine hooks to accomodate what the map data is looking for. So you're porting Halo 3 twice (essentially) for 3 whole maps. A hard sell at any rate.
This would also include the weapons. So Beta Carbine, Beta Tripmine, etc.
The issue with this is this more than likely requires porting the Halo 3 Beta itself for the engine hooks to accomodate what the map data is looking for. So you're porting Halo 3 twice (essentially) for 3 whole maps. A hard sell at any rate.
SHIFTYkiwi
Member
All I want is the Beta Tripmine. That thing was a nuke.
I never played the Halo 3 Beta, is there is a list of differences anywhere?
After a quick search for the beta tripmine, I found this video and I thought it was pretty funny. link