Men_in_Boxes
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This is a really good video. Bungies Marathon may have been cancelled.
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Has Marathon been cancelled?
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Guilty_AI
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rip
Men_in_Boxes
Men_in_Boxes
SEGAvangelist
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MarkMe2525
Gold Member
How about a summary? What evidence is presented that backs up the claim?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Clickbait topic with a clickbait video just because...
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
The man saw that Astrobot topic being a hit and needed to take it on another Sony projectrip
Men_in_Boxes
i'm just messing with you 
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
hopefully
midnightAI
Member
'apparently', 'theory', 'have heard', 'sounds like', 'could be', 'supports the idea', 'appears to', 'seems to'
Yep, seems legit
Yep, seems legit
Msamy
Member
Hope it's canceled and bungie leave gaas games and returns to its halo days, but I truly doubt that game with marathon importance and scale for sony current strategy can be canceled easily
Lunarorbit
Member
What is an extraction shooter? I saw a thread somewhere that asked if helldivers would have been better as one
Majima Everywhere System
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What if it was cancelled, but they will use the concept as a skin for Concord and bring it back to market that way.
Then it is a game with multi and extraction shooter modes.
Then it is a game with multi and extraction shooter modes.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
This. People creating threads with just the title and a YouTube video should be forced to spend a week on the purple forum.
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MarkMe2525
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It's the lowest form of thread making.
SmokedMeat
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I see a pattern…
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GaaS game fails miserably
Men in Boxes makes a thread about what they can do to save it.
Repeat*
Men in Boxes makes a thread about a GaaS game
GaaS game fails miserably
Men in Boxes makes a thread about what they can do to save it.
Repeat*
mayham2199
Member
He presents his eviendece in the video. It's not insane to think it might have been canceled with all the stuff going on at Bungie. He suspects Sony is going to take Marathon and basically absorb the idea into Destiny 2 which I actually don't think is that crazy of an idea.
Kvally
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tmlDan
Member
There is no evidence of that, he has no evidence, its all made up speculation
Mortisfacio
Member
Maybe I just don't understand the definition of an extraction shooter, but no matter how many times I've been told Helldivers isn't an extraction shooter, I play extraction shooters like DMZ, then play Helldivers and just think "OK, Helldivers is an extraction shooter".
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Remember people, anyone interested in the real Marathon can play the entire trilogy for free
Fans even made a modern spiritual sequel, also free:
www.moddb.com
Fans even made a modern spiritual sequel, also free:
Apotheosis X mod for Marathon Infinity
Apotheosis X is a total conversion for Marathon Infinity running on the Aleph One engine. Apotheosis X pushes the boundaries of what's possible aesthetically with the marathon engine whilst retaining its low resolution 90's charm. The campaign features...
Sleepwalker
Member
Yes, yes it has. Hopefully.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
That would make the most sense. No reason to split Bungie's resources between two somewhat similar (in terms of theme & aesthetic) games. Destiny "next-gen" platform could use some fresh gameplay ideas and the ones presented for Marathon could work very well in its framework. Additionally, Destiny already has brand cache and a fanbase; Marathon really doesn't (it's been almost 30 years since the last Marathon game).
However, if SIE do make that move, it also means they'll absorb all of Bungie under them into SIE. Marathon was going to be the "test" to see if Bungie could remain as-is, but if upper management culture got so bad to result in what's happened recently, they're honestly better off fully under SIE. Plus I think that's what the creatives and studio folks want; might be worth doing what they want in this case.
MiguelItUp
Member
Doesn't really seem to have any evidence at all that it could be.
That being said, it probably should be. People weren't a fan of the IP reboot from the get-go when it was announced it would be an extraction shooter.
That being said, it probably should be. People weren't a fan of the IP reboot from the get-go when it was announced it would be an extraction shooter.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Would be funny if it was, but I doubt it.
Even though Bungie did layoffs and such, I think they still got like 800 employees(?) I dont think the new Destiny 2 content still needs that many people. If Marathon was on the chopping block, they would had done it a month ago with the restructuring instead of messing with Marathon now.
Even though Bungie did layoffs and such, I think they still got like 800 employees(?) I dont think the new Destiny 2 content still needs that many people. If Marathon was on the chopping block, they would had done it a month ago with the restructuring instead of messing with Marathon now.
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Angry_Megalodon
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I doubt it gets canceled but I'm certain it will be half-assed. Depending on the state of the project, Sony might have downscaled it so it releases within 18 months.
Negotiator101
Member
So sad what happened to Bungie.
Shakka43
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Why though? It's not like Bungie is gonna start making single player games if this doesn't pan out for them.
DeaDPo0L84
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We're just posting click-bait articles/videos now huh?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Good video, but still all random bits of info he's trying to compile into one narrative.
Regardless, what's also important to note (which the YT guy and others bring up) is that trends change. Whether game style trend of the recent year of tons of wokeish games and movies bombing bad, all these games are lets say 5 years into dev. Some more, some less. Doesnt really matter.
In order to adjust to the market, they might have to overhaul their game, graphics, character and plot. And that takes time and money. For a silly game like Concord, even if they wanted to adjust they cant because the game launches in 3 months and at that time in June, no CEO is going to say ya lets retool the game for another couple years and then show gamers again and do a beta test in 2026. It got to a point there's no turning back.
Just comes down to: if and how many game studios are down the rabbit hole so much they cant or wont retool their game. Some will, some wont. Good luck studios.... especially ones who do last minute marketing like Concord. At least any dev showing a game in a detailed way two years earlier has time to maybe adjust. Not 3 month to launch go getters like Concord.
Regardless, what's also important to note (which the YT guy and others bring up) is that trends change. Whether game style trend of the recent year of tons of wokeish games and movies bombing bad, all these games are lets say 5 years into dev. Some more, some less. Doesnt really matter.
In order to adjust to the market, they might have to overhaul their game, graphics, character and plot. And that takes time and money. For a silly game like Concord, even if they wanted to adjust they cant because the game launches in 3 months and at that time in June, no CEO is going to say ya lets retool the game for another couple years and then show gamers again and do a beta test in 2026. It got to a point there's no turning back.
Just comes down to: if and how many game studios are down the rabbit hole so much they cant or wont retool their game. Some will, some wont. Good luck studios.... especially ones who do last minute marketing like Concord. At least any dev showing a game in a detailed way two years earlier has time to maybe adjust. Not 3 month to launch go getters like Concord.
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AteBitWolf
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Off The Grid feels fresh
Magic Carpet
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Bungie now a consulting service. Phone 1-800-CAN-CELL
mayham2199
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Yea but he never states he has evidence the video is titled as a question. It's just a discussion.
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Negotiator101
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It's probably a valid question to ask given what we know has happened recently.
LordOfChaos
Member
Kill the hero shooter and reboot it as an actual single player shooter campaign worthy of being the grandfather of Halo that Marathon is
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
3.2 billion that Sony is never going to get a return investment on.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
$3.6 billion.
And $1.2 billion of it isnt even captured as asset value. It was retention bonuses. Many people got fired anyway.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
Retention bonuses are considered part of an investment. Those bonuses were never going to be given to the workers. Those were clearly for the CEO, CFOs and other higher ups in the food chain.
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Roman Empire
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Men_in_Boxes
can't catch a break. Hope the rehab program has been great for you, because Idk but Marathon seems to be stuck in development hell.