Hatred - Reveal & Gameplay Trailer

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That's true , but generally I doubt people care if they had a bad past - their actions currently or at the time(as in at the time of killing people) is far too much and can't be dismissed because of bad experiences .
Of course, but I think the more important thing (and something that gets overlooked when these things happen) is simply answering the question of why they're doing what they're doing and what can we do to prevent such things from happening in the future.

Granted, this game does not look like the game to do that sort of thing, so we'll see how this goes.

This is a colossal sweeping generalization.
But it is absolutely true.

You can't point at a single mass killer in history that lived a perfectly normal life with a perfectly normal upbringing and just one day 'snapped' and started offing people. It doesn't work that way. Humans do not function like that.
 
hmm... certainly seems like a poor idea for a game. I'm sure there is gonna be a pretty big media backlash, because people are super sensitive to mass killings. And for good reason too. I hope the developers are aware of this.
 
I must say, this is really well produced. This developer could have a future, if they decide against committing seppuku with Hatred.

I don't really see how the game would end, though. Maybe when the players mind gets dominated with "What the fuck am I doing?".
 
I find myself drawn to this topic again because it does raise interesting related questions.

We've seen very similar gameplay in other games and came to the conclusion that context is everything (because genocide is fine in those games).

What's the extent of the changes these devs here would have to do to make this "acceptable"? Release a separate mode that turns all the enemies into zombies? Put all the enemies into Nazi uniforms? Give your guy a Punisher skin and say that the NPCs are all members of the Mafia? Not change anything and just create a splash screen at the start with text that states that you're the last surviving human on earth, and all the NPCs you encounter are alien body snatchers that have killed their human hosts and are just mimicking their behaviour?

You're the last alien survivor of your race that the humans have eliminated and you're on earth to exact your revenge... eliminating every human life.
 
I feel like people are being way too sensitive about the source material

Are we suppose to be cold to the fact that the main character goes around killing for the sake of killing?

Edit: Not just killing for the sake of killing. Killing because he believes that everyone deserves to die. Without him spewing his ideological bull crap at the beginning of the trailer, it may have been fine. But killing knowing that you are only doing so because you want everyone to die is pretty horrible and lacks any tact.
 
Did anyone notice how the main character grabs the officer by the shirt at 1:04? He's pulling at the fabric.

Doesn't happen enough in games.

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Gaming's got issues, and this game brings them to the forefront. Could be intentional, but I'm pretty sure no one who sees the issues makes a full game like that.

Perhaps the darkest thing about this game is how little it would need to change to make it "ok".
 
I wish it was more subtle.

The whole premise is silly.
The whole idea of senseless killing could be an interesting one to explore in a game. It would be disturbing, but perhaps lead to some reflection on insight.

I doubt this will be anything other than the shallow game it seems from the surface though.
 
Looks like a modern version of the original Postal. Still just a Video Game, so I'd play it if it isn't complete shit.

At the end of the day, it's still Freedom of Speech, so people can make games like this if they want to and people can complain about that game if they want. Plus, this is third-person, so there is that level of disconnection that you wouldn't get with a first-person shooter, so there might be less outrage than if you were seeing all this from the eyes of the killer.
 
Where's this idea of senseless killing coming from? He is clearly getting back a society for the shit he's gone through. Also why do you run NPCs over in GTA hmmm?
 
Alex Navarro writing about this on twitter:

Alex Navarro said:
Maybe the reason people are put off by Hatred isn’t out of some knee-jerk reaction to its celebratory portrayal of ultraviolence. Maybe the reason folks are put off by Hatred is because it dares to remove the veneer of a larger purpose to that violence. Instead of violence as an ancillary to some larger goal (save a hostage, be a crime lord, whatever) the violence itself is the only purpose.

Maybe people can't stand the sight of that violence without that veneer, without that wrapper of "storytelling" or "competition." Because without that stuff, there's nothing to distract you from the reality of using violence as cathartic relief. Whether that veneer is really strong enough to justify that violence otherwise is a question I think we've been asking ourselves for years. But it seems clear that without it, that violence becomes several orders of magnitude more difficult to stomach. It's putting something right in front of your face that I think a lot of people don't care to look at. It's removing any perceived context of nobility or heroism, and just distilling the violence down to its ugliest, most vengeful core.

I don’t mean this to be preachy. I’ve more than enjoyed my share of hyperviolent games over the years. But when I see people get mad that people are expressing displeasure with this game, and not, say, GTA or whatever, I think there’s a reason. There’s definitely something darker, and more malevolent about what that game seems to be pushing. Anyway, those are the only thoughts I had about that game. And they’re probably the last I’ll express. Because fuck that shit.
 
I was smiling all the way through. I love games where you play as irredeemably terrible people. Might even consider picking it up day one just to support more games like this.
 
This is just way too over the top, and looks like mindless tantalizing garbage. I always think about violence or other things in video games this way: Movies, television, and games are all just forms of entertainment. Would this fly in a movie or TV show?

I think the answer is HELL NO! Seems like there is no plot and you are just killing people and liking it. At least GTA gives some context behind everything and you aren't a psychopath...
 
No need to defend it. It's a video game.

What does that even mean? Its a piece of media that has an obvious point of view. Should we not even critic it because it is just a videogame. Should we not critic a film because it is just a movie? If people find that this isn't offensive then let them defend it. Critics can defend the media's portrayal of the topic.
 
I don't have a problem with it existing, but it definitely seemly like the kind juvenile edgy tryhard thing that I tend to have relatively little interest in.

If it actually plays really well I might give it a shot, but I get the impression that's not a likely scenario because they're going to aim for shock value above all else.
 
I don't really get what the big deal is but then again real life violence in small forms grosses me out, whereas video game violence is just delightful and silly to me.

Honestly I don't see much in that trailer that is new. In fact the part I was most offended by was when it switched to isometric shooter view because I realized it's another isometric shooter.

It's such a grey moral line when you state "it forces you to kill people" as if that is worse than, say, doing an evil Fallout 3 run and
literally nuking a town full of innocent people.

Or, the one that actually bothered me a little (TLOU end spoilers)
murdering a doctor capable of surgery after the fucking apocalypse
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I actually agree with the top Youtube comment. It's just a middle finger to political correctness in video games. And you know what? I'm fucking happy skipitty tidoo with that. Sometimes video games are just video games.
 
Nah. Manhunt offered some sort of context. Sociopaths are who you're targeting, not civilians.

That spiel during the trailer opening made it pretty clear...this ain't that.

So again, what is this shit?
It's creepy in a similar severity of those creepy pedo anime games. Different creepy urges for different creepy people.
 
This looks amazing, politically incorrect, amazing art style, glorious gore day on purchase for me.

And they should add some parts from Postal like mounting animals on weapons and peeing on other people :)
 
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