not yet (not counting remasters/ platform ports) though reckon the first will either be Bloodborne or Batman Arkham Knight maybe Witcher 3 but think that will be high 80's
Who's the judge on what a AAA title budget is?
Oh I agree. Most people don't seem to impressed with it but it's my favourite PS4 game by far and deserves a +90 from me. That's why reviews are subjective and scores are an ineffective way to rate a game.I enjoyed Second Son more than most games that score 90+ on Metacritic...I think I have different expectations than reviewers.
I'm not defending the Nintendo droughts, but in its first year it had New Super/Luigi U, Zombi U, Nintendo Land, The Wonderful 101, Lego City Undercover, and Pikmin 3. And if you include games like Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Wind Waker HD, the Wii U has had a vastly superior first year to what the PS4 and X1 have had so far.
Because absolutely nobody buys games like Battlefield 4, Diablo III, the Last of Us, Infamous, Titanfall, Assassin's Creed, and Call of Duty games.
Vastly superior? Please. Nintendo fans need to settle on the fact that nearly every Nintendo game is niche these days. Even Mario and Zelda don't draw like they used to.
And note: I own a WiiU and every single game you listed.
Galaxy 1 did over 10 mil LTD
Galaxy 2 was like 7 or so mil LTD
NSMBWii? Yeah a fuck ton
Isn't Twilight Princess second to only Ocarina as the best selling Zelda?
Mario Kart Wii? A fuck ton
Mario Kart 8? Look at that attach rate
Brawl? Over 10 mil LTD
Yeah, so niche.
What has held back those games' equivalents this gen is a smaller install base to due other problems. Not because of the games' draw.
The hardware is definitely holding back software sales for sure. I don't think Wii U is a valid place to assess the popularity of Nintendo's brands. 3DS more so, where MK7 and 3DL have sold about 10 million each. Though 3DS hasn't exactly lit it up either.
If Nintendo releases a popular hardware, their games will sell more. Really that simple. Can't get any more unpopular than Wii U.
If Nintendo releases a popular hardware, their games will sell more. Really that simple.
Wii U is current gen? I know it is an active console...
GTA 5?
oh, stupid me, gen means PC doesn't count
How come Xbox One has 2 90+ titles in that but it still has only 1 today? PS4 also should have 3 by that time and my looking at it wrong?
Nintendo farting around for the first year is really no different than what Sony and Microsoft have been doing. Except Nintendo farted around with at least a few of great games, while Sony and Microsoft haven't really released anything worth buying their systems over. And it looks like they won't have anything worthwhile for the system until 2015.
I'm not defending the Nintendo droughts, but in its first year it had New Super/Luigi U, Zombi U, Nintendo Land, The Wonderful 101, Lego City Undercover, and Pikmin 3. And if you include games like Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Wind Waker HD, the Wii U has had a vastly superior first year to what the PS4 and X1 have had so far.
Feelings on Metacritic aside, I do see it as a fairly good reflection of the general reception of a game, both by critics and by players (I'm talking about the official score, not the user score).
I remember back in 2007 when the PS3 had been out for almost a year, we already had quite a few 90+ games on "next-gen" consoles: Gears of War, Bioshock, Guitar Hero 2, Elder Scrolls IV, Halo 3, and followed closely by Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect, The Orange Box, and Rock Band.
Now that the Xbone and PS4 have been out for nearly a year and looking at the big AAA titles so far: launch titles all more or less disappointed, hyped up games like Second Son and Titanfall landed in the 80s, and Destiny looks like it'll follow suit. Even the feelings here towards these games seem more tepid. (and sorry I'm not counting TLOU:R since it's a remaster of a PS3 game)
Am I off-base here or have the AAA efforts so far this gen been lackluster compared to what we got early last-gen?
Only 1 game.Check the Wii U's library
I think Sunset Overdrive makes it in the 90+ range. Probably the only exclusive game this holiday that will.
I think Sunset Overdrive makes it in the 90+ range. Probably the only exclusive game this holiday that will.
Smash Bros.
Also I see Sunset Overdrive as an 82 kinda game. But we'll see.
Don't put so much stock in review scores.
I did a lot of work and even started a whole thread to answer your question.
You should check it out. If you like charts, tables and graphs.
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Deservedly so, though I can't help but feel Tropical Freeze deserves more praise and attention than it got. It's definitely way better than anything on PS4 but the reviews certainly wouldn't have you believe it.
Ah forgot about Smash. That should probably make it too.
I just have a hunch about Sunset. It's shaping up to be a really good looking and, more importantly, fun game that's sort of flying under the radar right now. I think the lack of attention to it could take some reviewers by surprise and knock the reviews up a couple notches higher than they would be if it were being hyped more.
2007 was about a year for the PS3 and Wii, but there was cross over from the 360 there for PS3 unlike Wii U to PS4/XB1, and the Wii was quicker to develop for and Nintendo was developing those games well in advance, similar to how we had a ton of awesome stuff at the end of the Wii U's second year.Most of the games you listed were 2007, 2 years after the generation started....
Thanks for the kind feedback, everyone.
At the time of the data pull, on Xbox One Rayman Legends (92.2) and FIFA 14 (90.8) both qualified as >90.
PS4 just had 1 (Rayman Legends 90.5).
These scores change over time, and a lot has released since June. So just consider it point in time.
The thing that interested me most was that we had 154 titles release over the first 8 months of the last consoles, and only 104 this time.
That release drought is real and clear.
Just wait for the Witcher 3, Persona 5 Batman, Bloodborne and Uncharted 4![]()
Bloodborne is coming.
Interesting. With studios struggling, games being delayed and games costing much more to make this makes sense. Nintendo is the one who had the most significant impact. There is also the lack of participation from Japan.
That was a great thread. Shame it never picked up steam.
I think Sunset Overdrive makes it in the 90+ range. Probably the only exclusive game this holiday that will.
The problem is that in 2007, COD4, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Crysis, Portal, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted, were all new franchises.
They were surprises that nobody saw coming and they set the trends for the remainder of the generation. They were pioneers of the AAA cinematic genre.
Right now people seem to put their hopes on the new Uncharted or new Gears to be the first true next gen experience like Gears was in its time. Or even The Order, which however prettty it may be, is still a scripted corridor shooter. The difference is that before Gears of war there was nothing like Gears of war.
I don't see anything already out or announced that provides the same paradigm shift.
The real next gen experience will be something that nobody expects. And Unfortunately I think that may take more than 2 years to arrive this time, seeing as we are moving more and more towards a risk averse industry.
2007 was still before the economic crisis and devs/publishers could afford to take risks.
Why not. All good exclusive games (well Nintendoland being a bunch if small games).if your going to list games like nintendoland, lego city and zombi u.
Feelings on Metacritic aside, I do see it as a fairly good reflection of the general reception of a game, both by critics and by players (I'm talking about the official score, not the user score).
I remember back in 2007 when the PS3 had been out for almost a year, we already had quite a few 90+ games on "next-gen" consoles: Gears of War, Bioshock, Guitar Hero 2, Elder Scrolls IV, Halo 3, and followed closely by Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect, The Orange Box, and Rock Band.
Now that the Xbone and PS4 have been out for nearly a year and looking at the big AAA titles so far: launch titles all more or less disappointed, hyped up games like Second Son and Titanfall landed in the 80s, and Destiny looks like it'll follow suit. Even the feelings here towards these games seem more tepid. (and sorry I'm not counting TLOU:R since it's a remaster of a PS3 game)
Am I off-base here or have the AAA efforts so far this gen been lackluster compared to what we got early last-gen?
I understand that the year still have many things left to do, but when there is the chance that two remasters end up with the best scores in the year, I think something strange is happening.