Have you ever witnessed the downfall of a fanbase you belong to firsthand?
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Bayonetta 2 coming to a console other than the WiiU seems about as likely as Metal Gear Solid 4 coming to the 360 did in 2007.
It could, and there's plenty of good reasons why it should, but it won't.
nailbombxx
Member
I think it is. Its one of the few reasons why I still have my Xbox 360.
Lets not to pretend that the Wii U doesn't have/won't have any other good games either.
MaverickHunterX
Member
Once they stopped releasing home versions of the Bemani games it was pretty much over.
GoddyofAus
Banned
Rareware.
Pretty much. That and arcades died out in the west more or less.
The Minecraft community. I was there at it's roots and it was a generally fun community at first but now it's turned into some monster of allowing scummy link shorteners, modders trying to break mod packs with cute hidden code, and turned into a drama filled mess in general. Heck, I was even an admin for a quite popular server before the infinite map version got MP.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Been gaming and involved in communities since Doom band I've never seen such a following with Valve fans. They are creepy and almost blind to anything not made by them. Reddit is pretty much their home while /r/gaming is Valve's personal blog. They actually have posters, mugs, mousepads of Gaben's face everywhere and they admire him. They call him sexy so much where it's long past that "we're just kidding phase." I've heard terms like "what I would do to him" and crap like that. It's genuinely creepy. If there's even an image of an FPS where your character has feet, they're confused that this exists and are excited about it. This has been in almost every shooter since 2004.
Their obsession with hats has ruined Team Fortress 2 and made it more about item collection than objective. I blame this entirely on the type of fans Team Fortress 2 seems to attract. The game is unbearable now and I feel like I'm playing Club Penguin with the immaturity in matches currently. Half-Life 2 is also a standard great shooters. It's on the same level as Bioshock, Halo: CE, and Goldeneye.
edit: Well that was rant. I like Valve as a developer and distributor and they make great games. The fans just creep me out on a whole new level.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
Lets see:
Everquest: Once the king of MMO's, and one of my most beloved series. On the console side, I remember thinking that if EQ ever came to a console, that's in, Sony wins. When it finally hit, it was good in some places, like being zoneless, but massively failed in a lot of places, and was more or less an insult to the PC fans. Was still a decent community till the expac, then things just died. Was really surprised a small fanbase still payed right up until the end.
Also, what happened to the spinoff Chamions of Norrath series? Would have loved to see a third game set in the EQ 2 timeline or the EQ next era.
DDR: I loved the series at first, but just didn't liek the shift toward american pop/dance songs as opposed to the japanese/eurobeat songs in past entries. Still play at the arcade sometimes though.
Everquest: Once the king of MMO's, and one of my most beloved series. On the console side, I remember thinking that if EQ ever came to a console, that's in, Sony wins. When it finally hit, it was good in some places, like being zoneless, but massively failed in a lot of places, and was more or less an insult to the PC fans. Was still a decent community till the expac, then things just died. Was really surprised a small fanbase still payed right up until the end.
Also, what happened to the spinoff Chamions of Norrath series? Would have loved to see a third game set in the EQ 2 timeline or the EQ next era.
DDR: I loved the series at first, but just didn't liek the shift toward american pop/dance songs as opposed to the japanese/eurobeat songs in past entries. Still play at the arcade sometimes though.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Try finding a game in the Free Aim playlists of Max Payne 3.
Seriously, this.
I can't even play a game of COD without being called every racist name in the book even though i am white. And apparently my mother is the worlds biggest whore.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I assume she has reasonable rates?
NoirVisage
Banned
Not for me, and definitely not for the actual fanbase of the first Bayonetta.
It Didn't come out on a Nintendo console after all.
we'll see.
Of course! I'm giving Nintendo until this E3 to prove otherwise (given that we don't know what Retro's working on yet), but Other M's reception was so venomous that I wouldn't be surprised if the series was put in storage.
PREACH IT BROTHER! It needs to be said.
I abhor Reddit's gaming community. Even /r/games has devolved into the younger brother of /r/gaming, even though it was supposed to the more "cultured" sub-Reddit, rather than pictures of a Pikachu quilt your "girlfriend" "knitted". (Girlfriend doesn't exist and you bought it at the store)
The entire concept of upvotes and downvotes destroys any sense of legitimate discourse that there may be to have on that site.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Silent Hill is the worst one for me. The fanbase just seems giga toxic nowdays compared to good old days and god forbid if you had fun with some of the newer games.
Resident Evil turned a little different. There was this ''for or against'' after RE4 but the fanbase never turned toxic the same way SH did in my experience. The fanbase is still good but it really has died down after RE5.
Resident Evil turned a little different. There was this ''for or against'' after RE4 but the fanbase never turned toxic the same way SH did in my experience. The fanbase is still good but it really has died down after RE5.
NoirVisage
Banned
Yeah, the silent hill fanbase that's "okay" with the horrendous excuses for SH games are a disappointment.
I make sure to cherish the moments I have left with my local machines. In Japan, DDR/IIDX machines were dime a dozen but coming back to America sucked as they now become more and more scarce. One day I'm just going to buy my own machine for the garage.
kitschykitty
Member
This seems more relevant to my personal experiences but a while ago EVERYONE played Smash Brother Melee, literally everyone I knew around my age played it at least a little if not for hours every time you hung out with a friend, then Brawl came out and I think I know 1 person who owns it, I've only played Brawl a handful of times but I knew it just wasn't for me.
Alcoholikaust
Member
loved the Atari 2600 when it came out
loved the sega genesis when it came out
loved the Saturn when it came out
loved the dreamcast when it came out
haha...
loved the sega genesis when it came out
loved the Saturn when it came out
loved the dreamcast when it came out
haha...
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars. The moment Activision shut down the official forum just a year after release with basically no warning beforehand, which killed basically any interest of new players. All now left is a small hardcore community including several players with shady skills. Crippled by a bad game engine and netcode. It's still one of the best MP games from a gameplay point of view, and I have sunk well over 700 hours in it, but it was just too complex for a broader crowd.
APZonerunner
Member
Final Fantasy community is a gaunt shadow of its former self now. Still plenty of people, but it's just extremes on all sides now.
Napalm_Frank
Member
It has nothing to do with being ''okay'' with the situation SH is nowdays. I mean when after a game like Homecoming for example released and everyone knew it isn't anything like Team Silent games. Some people want to discuss the game on its own merits but it sometimes seems to be impossible when the ''hardcore'' SH fans gang up on people for saying anything positive about those games. I have seen it come more personal than any other fanbase I have been involved in. It is just unpleasant.
Let's take Resident Evil fanbase for example. Almost everyone knows Survivor is a bad game compared to all the others but they still have fun discussing about the weird and shitty spinoffs.
Snapshot King
Member
There's a reason for this.
People reminisce about the glory days of 1.6, but as far as I see it, the community started falling off around 1.3 and the transfer from WON to Steam.
The Riot Shield had a lot to do with it.
Easy.
Final Fantasy.
Each new FF was a fucking EVENT. A miracle in game form. Only capable of being the best and leader of its genre. And they were coming once every year or every 2 years for a bit. 1997-2003, six games, amazing stuff.
Watching it dwindle over the last decade in terms of wait time AND quality has been extremely disheartening.
Final Fantasy.
Each new FF was a fucking EVENT. A miracle in game form. Only capable of being the best and leader of its genre. And they were coming once every year or every 2 years for a bit. 1997-2003, six games, amazing stuff.
Watching it dwindle over the last decade in terms of wait time AND quality has been extremely disheartening.
It ain't just you; in terms of size, it may have grown, but in terms of sanity, bickering over the quality of Melee and Brawl relative to each other proved to be the Smash fandom's ticket to Hell.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Not a fanbase exactly, but I watched the world of warcraft community go from a really good example of solidarity to absolutely hating everyone who plays the game that isn't in their little circle of friends.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Yes there is, the second you try to even mention those games in some places there is an angry mob wanting to burn the witch.
Solid Samus
Banned
There's no way Other M killed the franchise. Metroid is still held in very high regard and Other M is almost universally seen as an outlier. I'm willing to bet money that the next sidescrolling Metroid game is currently in development, it's Nintendo's best bet on salvaging the franchise and putting out yet another universally acclaimed entry in one of their sorta-kinda-staple franchises.
If Nintendo does put Metroid on hold I guarantee you there are other developers who will take notice and craft their own Metroid-like games ala Shadow Complex (the second best Metroidvania of this generation). There will always be fans of that gameplay style because it's just so fucking solid
This one was never as big or popular as others mentioned in this thread, but Resistance:FOM. I was an early adopter of the PS3 and of course got R:FOM since there wasn't really much else out there. Loved the game and the community forums. It's what got me back into gaming and started my complete love of shooters. R2 pretty much killed the community and R3 never got back to the level of FOM. Anyway, that's all I got.
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
I played Team Fortress Classic back in the day and TF2 when it came out. It's sad to see the nonsense they've introduced into the game. Last thing anyone I know cares about in an FPS are hats... still can't figure out who the people are fueling this.
Diablo 3 was a huge let down for the core community. I think Blizzard's fan base in general took a huge hit from it. The game went from absolute max hype level to being lambasted on the forums by a majority of the community. Not many people are still playing. The fact that they are doing an RMAH/DRM free console version is also just salt on the wounds.
Diablo 3 was a huge let down for the core community. I think Blizzard's fan base in general took a huge hit from it. The game went from absolute max hype level to being lambasted on the forums by a majority of the community. Not many people are still playing. The fact that they are doing an RMAH/DRM free console version is also just salt on the wounds.
ii Stryker
Banned
are you referring to their insistance of including a shitty SP campaign?
yeah I wasn't familiar with BF1942 or any of the PC games and only became a fan of the Battlefield IP after BC1 & BC2. while I enjoy BF3 it to me isn't as fun as the BC games.
The Bad Company games have both good SP campaigns and great MP. Where as BF3's MP has suffered because of the inclusion of SP.
Captain N. Tenneal
Member
It's being funded, and published by Nintendo. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell it will end up anywhere else. Count on it.
The BioWare forums were a much better place before the release of Dragon Age: Origins. It seems that game marked the downfall of the community. I remember following development and chatting with a lot of the posters on there. It had a few oddballs, of course, but the mainstream appeal of Mass Effect and DA:O really hit that place hard.
Now it will be known as the infamous haunting grounds of Talimancers.
Solid Samus
Banned
IDK man, Resistance 2 boasted some questionable decisions that kind of killed some of the uniqueness of Fall of Man but the community was still very much there. Some of my favorite gaming memories of this last generation stem from R2's 8 player co-op and organizing large-scale MP matches on various websites.
Interrobang
Member
First thing I thought of was Mega Man.
Second thing I thought of was SOCOM: US Navy SEALs.
Second thing I thought of was SOCOM: US Navy SEALs.
Sega.
Seeing that community dieing a slow, painful death was really heart wrenching.
No community will come close to it ever, with the exception of Nintendo.
I've never been too directly connected to communities dedicated to specific games or franchises. They're kind of all over the place, and tend to be filled with the worst that the internet has to offer. I know there are some decent ones out there, but I feel like they are few.
I kind of hung around HBO and Bungie.net for a little while. Those quickly degraded at some point. I fled to forums similar to GAF. I haven't looked back.
I watch a ton of Battlefield YouTube content, and have made some myself, but I wouldn't say I'm a part of that community.
I kind of hung around HBO and Bungie.net for a little while. Those quickly degraded at some point. I fled to forums similar to GAF. I haven't looked back.
I watch a ton of Battlefield YouTube content, and have made some myself, but I wouldn't say I'm a part of that community.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Bioware. To the point where they actually created a Romance subfolder in their official forums to contain all the freaks.
And then you have the polar opposite. The rabid, foaming at the mouth fans that don't even want to talk about the games anymore, just about how EA Ruined Everything. And good luck bringing up the various articles in which they've said that they are the top shit and everything they do is genius.
And then you have the polar opposite. The rabid, foaming at the mouth fans that don't even want to talk about the games anymore, just about how EA Ruined Everything. And good luck bringing up the various articles in which they've said that they are the top shit and everything they do is genius.
br0ken_shad0w
Member
I still miss those Allied Assault vs Call of Duty debates. Good times to be had.