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[00_Zer0]

I have seen a few posts from folks here on NeoGaf about Switch 2 looking washed out while playing HDR enabled games in docked mode. Fear not HDTVTest from YouTube has you covered. This tutorial is for all makes and models of HDR enabled HDTVs with or without HGIG Dynamic tone mapping.

The first video is the main tutorial here:


...and in the second video skip to a section called 3 other settings to optimize and with that everyone having issues with HDR looking washed out on Switch 2 in docked mode should be covered.



I hope this helps those who are frustrated with the convoluted mess that is Switch 2 HDR. Good luck.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

If you don't really understand how HDR works for gaming, it's better to start here first



The demonstration he does is with the PS5 HDR calibration screen but the general knowledge is very useful

 

[Guardian Monkey]

I watched this a few days ago. I appreciate that Vincent went through the effort to explain it all and give appropriate values to the slider. But this is pretty inexcusable that Nintendo released it the way it is. I started laughing my ass off when he was going through the incremental changes after each adjustment.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

I have seen a few posts from folks here on NeoGaf about Switch 2 looking washed out while playing HDR enabled games in docked mode. Fear not HDTVTest from YouTube has you covered. This tutorial is for all makes and models of HDR enabled HDTVs with or without HGIG Dynamic tone mapping.

The first video is the main tutorial here:


...and in the second video skip to a section called 3 other settings to optimize and with that everyone having issues with HDR looking washed out on Switch 2 in docked mode should be covered.



I hope this helps those who are frustrated with the convoluted mess that is Switch 2 HDR. Good luck.

On my Bravia OLED, Switch 2 HDR looks amazing when the Switch 2 RGB setting is Auto and the tvs RGB setting is Limited.

If i set the Bravia setting to Auto to match, it gets washed out and ugly. I have no idea why the HDR image only looks great when theyre mismatched.

 

[00_Zer0]

On my Bravia OLED, Switch 2 HDR looks amazing when the Switch 2 RGB setting is Auto and the tvs RGB setting is Limited.

If i set the Bravia setting to Auto to match, it gets washed out and ugly. I have no idea why the HDR image only looks great when theyre mismatched.

Hey if it works and looks good to you I won't judge. I have a LG C4 and my settings for RGB are on Auto on both Switch 2 and my LG C4 and I also have HGIG enabled. I also keep Switch 2 in dark mode and turned off burn in protection through the Switch 2 and LG to prevent aggressive ABL. With burn in protections enabled it can cause bright screens to flicker causing ABL to kick in more often than usual, and ruin the overall HDR effect. I also set Switch 2 to only enable HDR on games that support it. Vincent from HDTVTest says that modern OLED don't need as much burn in protection like they used to. After following his guide closely my Switch 2 HDR is looking pretty good.

 

[zeomax]

If i set the Bravia setting to Auto to match, it gets washed out and ugly. I have no idea why the HDR image only looks great when theyre mismatched.

Because the limited or full setting is only for SDR content. HDR is always limited and therefore you can not mismatch it. Even if you set it to mismatch your TV switch automatically to limited with HDR content.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Because the limited or full setting is only for SDR content. HDR is always limited and therefore you can not mismatch it. Even if you set it to mismatch your TV switch automatically to limited with HDR content.

There's definitely something wrong then since even in HDR, on my LG C2 at least, mismatching the RGB range is THE ONLY way as to not have the picture look washed out (S2 set to "auto", C2 set to "limited").
Again, this is only on the S2 since this problem isn't present on XSX/PS5 by having both the consoles AND the TV set to "auto".

It's weird, I know, but...

PS : I think that Vincent mentioned us specifically regarding the RGB range "mismatch" thing in that we're wrong since the "washed out" picture is the creator's intent, still, while I'm no Tech savvy TV calibrator, I'll have to insist that there's something wrong with the handshake between the S2 and some TVs when having both set to "auto" - mismatching the RGB range on a PS5/XSX leads to very visible crushed blacks, on the S2 though it just looks "right".

 

[DenchDeckard]

After tweaking mine the switch 2 looks insane on my oled but its a terrible process to get it looking right. I followed Vincent's guide and it really helps.

 

[RoadHazard]

Because the limited or full setting is only for SDR content. HDR is always limited and therefore you can not mismatch it. Even if you set it to mismatch your TV switch automatically to limited with HDR content.

I don't believe "HDR is always limited" is correct.

 

[Connificent]

This shit is so tiring.

 

[zeomax]

I don't believe "HDR is always limited" is correct.

"This means any given PQ based HDR display will only use a sub-set of the full signal range, with a 1,000 nits display max'ing out at 769 bits level, with the remaining 254 levels clipped."

Source: https://lightillusion.com/what_is_hdr.html

 

[Mozza]

As I have said it's a fine balance between the Switch 2's HDR settings and your T.V... And this will vary from model to model... Even from the same brand. Mine is looking awesome but it was not like that right out of the box.

 

[Mozza]

There's definitely something wrong then since even in HDR, on my LG C2 at least, mismatching the RGB range is THE ONLY way as to not have the picture look washed out (S2 set to "auto", C2 set to "limited").
Again, this is only on the S2 since this problem isn't present on XSX/PS5 by having both the consoles AND the TV set to "auto".

It's weird, I know, but...

PS : I think that Vincent mentioned us specifically regarding the RGB range "mismatch" thing in that we're wrong since the "washed out" picture is the creator's intent, still, while I'm no Tech savvy TV calibrator, I'll have to insist that there's something wrong with the handshake between the S2 and some TVs when having both set to "auto" - mismatching the RGB range on a PS5/XSX leads to very visible crushed blacks, on the S2 though it just looks "right".

You have to also consider that many YouTube videos are not in HDR so these can look washed out by default.

 

[rodrigolfp]

That explain things. Nintendo only cared about proper calibrated HDR in this game. Looks good that way.

 

[Bojji]

On my Bravia OLED, Switch 2 HDR looks amazing when the Switch 2 RGB setting is Auto and the tvs RGB setting is Limited.

If i set the Bravia setting to Auto to match, it gets washed out and ugly. I have no idea why the HDR image only looks great when theyre mismatched.

Because the limited or full setting is only for SDR content. HDR is always limited and therefore you can not mismatch it. Even if you set it to mismatch your TV switch automatically to limited with HDR content.

There's definitely something wrong then since even in HDR, on my LG C2 at least, mismatching the RGB range is THE ONLY way as to not have the picture look washed out (S2 set to "auto", C2 set to "limited").
Again, this is only on the S2 since this problem isn't present on XSX/PS5 by having both the consoles AND the TV set to "auto".

It's weird, I know, but...

PS : I think that Vincent mentioned us specifically regarding the RGB range "mismatch" thing in that we're wrong since the "washed out" picture is the creator's intent, still, while I'm no Tech savvy TV calibrator, I'll have to insist that there's something wrong with the handshake between the S2 and some TVs when having both set to "auto" - mismatching the RGB range on a PS5/XSX leads to very visible crushed blacks, on the S2 though it just looks "right".

Limited and Full RGB settings should looks almost exactly the same when TV is set to auto. I tested this with PS5, XSX and PC (both AMD and Nvidia).

But when they don't match picture can be extremely washed put or so much contrast is applied that black details are crushed.

Switch 2 has some kind of web browser? Check out this image, if you can see ALL squares (besides the first one) then everything is fine, if you can't see them then you have crushed blacks and incorrect settings:

Image link, youtube link.

 

[Dorfdad]

So for those less technically challenged and own a G3 what's the settings on tv and switch 2 to make it look good?

 

[DaleinCalgary]

After making the changes it does seem to be a bit less washed out. Nintendo really has no idea what they are doing with HDR, or probably how to spell it.

 

[Connificent]

So for those less technically challenged and own a G3 what's the settings on tv and switch 2 to make it look good?

Turning off HDR. You probably dont see it anyway.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Turning off HDR. You probably dont see it anyway.

I get this approach, but it's hard to go that way once you've seen games where it looks as great as it does.