Right, but I can still be happy about this specifically.
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Health Care Vote Delayed Until After July 4th Recess
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HAHAHAHAAAAA. No, they'll just kneecap the ACA and blame it on the dems.
StopMakingSense
Member
It is no secret to the senators how the AARP was going to react to the bill.
I think the strangest thing about this bill is the lack of support. Are there ANY articles out there from reputable organizations that are for the bill? With Obamacare there was countless articles and analysis saying what it would do to help Americans. Where are those same articles for this bill? Am I just in a liberal bubble, or is this one of the least supported major bills in recent memory?
Chezzymann
Member
I hope we can just keep this delayed long enough for the midterms on the off chance that democrats can have a miracle win in congress
Vestal
Junior Member
balladofwindfishes
Member
So can those people who, for days, were saying this was all an act and it would absolutely pass this week, and it was all pre-planned, calm down a little?
McConnell has lost Sen. Paul, Sen. Lee, Sen. Heller, and Sen. Collins so far. More potential nos down the pipe with Sen. Murkowski and Sen. Cruz not having weighed in yet.
Many conservative groups hate this bill, nah. Nobody outside the senate and house, and some insane trumpers, like this bill.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
They won't hold them.
Like, my representative hasn't held a town hall in months because the last time he did, he had to face hundreds of furious people upset about his support for the AHCA. Now, he just takes pre-screened questions over Facebook Live and calls it a town hall. Absolute joke.
Yeah? Were you cheering when Scalise got shot, and almost killed?
Because according to this shit logic, that would totally be cool with you.
That cyberattack is nasty, using NSA tools and exploits to spread and lock down systems.
It's a tax cut bill. Only the far right likes this.
PandaPandaPanda
Member
can concur with this
I kept my phone number from Nevada when I moved out of state and I received a robo call from Heller's office for a town hall by phone(lol)
Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/republicans-key-repeal-vote-delay-240010
So throw money at it, have it rescored by the CBO, and get your yes' to pass it. I've seen this movie before.
The far right seems to hate this because it's not an actual repeal of Obamacare
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Just called my Sens (Gillibrand and Schumer) and told them to get offensive on this thing. Simply writing "ER" on the end of a stupid Trump quote isn't going to do shit. You have time to get changes made, get in there and make them. Force yourself into the meetings if you have to.
LifEndz
Member
I know. But with Trump describing the House version as "mean" and McConnel already hinting that they have to work with Schumer, I remain optimistic. But you're probably right. These evil fucks are determined to fuck over the poor to give the rich more money.
Ziltoidia 9
Member
Do they not understand that the rich can go on amazing vacations while still paying taxes?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Let's see if Tom Marino, Lou Barletta, or Pat Toomey show their ugly mugs.
Yup; the war's not over, but we can at least celebrate the battle for the next week.
I'm still surprised they'd go after something that blatantly attacks the elderly like that. I mean, sure, the GOP is fine with stripping coverage from women & minorities, but old white guys who actually go out to vote are one of the main demographics keeping them in power!
A forum post cannot properly portray my maniacal-yet-soul-crushed laughter right now. The man does nothing but hide & rubber stamp whatever Trump/the Koch brothers toss his way.
It may sway some, for sure, but it doesn't make it any easier to sell a bill that takes millions of people off of health insurance.
The bill is still shit.
Well, technically it is and always has been.
Everyone is so WRONG in this thread. Delaying this vote till after July 4th is the most kind and thoughtful thing the GOP will ever do for it's citizens, since there will be a good portion of the public that will most likely blow their limbs off while trying to launch some fireworks in some shit hole of a town. They'll NEED that Medicad Coverage something fierce, hoping at best to re-attach anything that is no longer part of the body proper.
Let them get fixed up and then take it away from them. It's marvelously generous if you ask me.
Let them get fixed up and then take it away from them. It's marvelously generous if you ask me.
Cesare Borgia
Banned
The longer they delay the closer we get to midterm season. Congress basically shuts down during that midterm year, especially for major or controversial legislation. Not looking good for the bill, at least not this incarnation.
Everything boils down to whether McConnell can buy the votes he needs with that 188b.
Everything boils down to whether McConnell can buy the votes he needs with that 188b.
Saint Gregory
Member
They'll spend the next two weeks brainstorming how to better package death sentences in exchange for tax cuts to their constituents.
I actually thought for the longest time that the Republican base didn't want any socialized health care at all but now I realize that the Republican leadership have been selling them on the idea that somehow they could do it better than Obama. Good luck!
I actually thought for the longest time that the Republican base didn't want any socialized health care at all but now I realize that the Republican leadership have been selling them on the idea that somehow they could do it better than Obama. Good luck!
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
Psssh. What are they going to do? Vote Democrat in 2018 and 2020?
Nope, because they'll be dead by then.
They're going full Onion.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
No beers to celebrate this time?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I'm saying that the tone from people being disenfranchised is the absolute least important thing about this bill.
You're talking about theoretical suggestions of self inflicted violence on a garbage nightmare person like McConnell who is actively pushing a bill that will - one hundred percent WILL - kill people. The former isn't a good look, but I find it hard to give a shit when the latter is there. This bill is so horrible that even talking about it becomes its own defense because of "polite discourse." How dare someone imply that this bill will *gasp* MURDER people, how uncouth!
And no, I'm not going to applaud someone shooting a senator. But I'm also not going to pretend like that event was an isolated incident, or that the Republican platform has not made such backblast events possible with the fetishistic defense of gun rights and police worship. Its no surprise you see right wingers like Ted Nugent wanting to tone down their rhetoric after this shooting out of the thousands. I wonder what was so different about this one that it was a wake up call?
They have no power.
They cannot force themselves into GOP-only meetings.
They cannot make changes to the bill without GOP support.
You cannot claim power just because you want it.
polyh3dron
Banned
oh this is like when the house bill died a horrible death
oh wait, it passed after
oh wait, it passed after
No not really...
I mean I think McConnell is a vile human being but no.
I do hope that this helps expose the "legend" of McConnell and his ability to corral the troops. Dude has had both houses since November and presided over nothing but fractious chaos.
BronsonLee
Member
That passed because they were able to convince the naysayers that it wouldn't actually get to the Senate in that form at all, which was correct (they started from scratch)
They basically sold their soul to get Trump a win
Netherscourge
Banned
Another big L for Trump.
Heller and Collins both appear to be relatively hard nos, and the issue w/ the remaining votes is that they have holdouts on both ends of the political spectrum.
I hope. But save the victory chant for when this is truly buried and behind us.