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Helldivers 2 will soon require all Steam players to sign in with a PlayStation Network account
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
As a consumer at some point you have to acknowledge that what you are partaking in is a business. Some things are terrible and we should hate it. But this? Is it really THAT bad?
twilo99
Member
twilo99
Member
It depends if Xbox or Sony are doing it
squidilix
Member
meeehhh bc it will sales our personal data...
somewhere, in internet...
Cyberpunkd
Member
Absolutely agree, which is why this game is not F2P but costs money. What Sony could do is charge extra and allow you not to make a PSN account, but that will not pass for strategy reasons. Plus imagine the embarrassment if that MTX would be popular.
Guilty_AI
Member
They're bringing in the bot army i see
lifa-cobex
Member
Well shit. Their it is...Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation NetworkCode:https://web.archive.org/web/20231207163847/https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
December 2023.
January 2024
Helldivers 2 will require you to have a PSN account on PC
Interesting. Wonder if HFW will as well or if it’s because it’s an online only game.www.neogaf.com
Was it their when Sony decided to remove it?
However I can still see from the view point of why people are pissed.
Your data is getting sold whilst having no hand jobs for it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Mr Moose
Member
It's always had it on the page (or at least since late last year, doesn't seem it was there mid-2023), but was apparently disabled in the game after launch. Not sure what kind of issues they were having with it.
But GFWL didn't require a MS account, it was a separate account and was never linked to steam. It never had any integration with steam for anything (crossplay, trophy /achievements) . The initial third party account link to a MS account on Steam was I believe not a GFWL game, it was Minecraft (could be wrong, certainly wasn't a GFWL game though) which obviously didn't get review bombed. This would be like saying people should have got used to an SEN account from all the Sony PC games in the past. Not really.
Yeah, annoyance I can understand throwing a fit here and review bombing I can't especially while happily playing other games you signed up to an account for no problem. It probably takes more time to review bomb and complain here than it does just creating an account much like they have for their other games.
That one's easy,
PC gamers when a MS game needs a MS account:
PC gamers when an Epic game needs an Epic account:
We know how much Steam users love Epic. Epic added those. Guess what other game got bought and retroactively began enforcing a MS account? Minecraft. Nothing happened though. Those games didn’t even have the "Third party account required" warning when purchasing. Now this is some huge deal.
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Guilty_AI
Member
MS literally lost an entire storefront despite it containing most of the releases at the time, that's how much people hate them. Try again.PC gamers when a MS game needs a MS account:
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lifa-cobex
Member
I can imagine that's where the argument would stem from.
Like you've posted. It's their on the page but you can't remove it and then re-introduce it later on without any warnings.
As I said. I purchased it a week or so after and I didn't see any prompts about it.
PC players are defensive about their economy.
They have a right to be too imo. They've been fucked over too many times in the past.
omegasc
Member
Just create a US account, or any other supported country. Unless you can't link accounts for different countries, it's a non-issue.
Nobody is talking about their store, we're talking about account linking on a steam game. So because MS failed with their own store account linking on other stores was considered OK? What a take. I guess for it to be OK something playstation must simply fail elsewhere, what logic, amazing.
Besides when they added Minecraft MS account linking retroactively their bad store had already failed a long time ago.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
The very least it should allow cross-progression. I refunded the Steam version because it's useless to link if you have two separate Helldivers on PC and console. That's the bare minimum requirement of a cross-platform GaaS.
March Climber
Member
I've been waiting on Steam and Playstation to shake hands and link up again. It's been so long.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
PC gamers: this is dumb and unnecessary
Sony’s pro bono defense force: well actually
Sony’s pro bono defense force: well actually
Mr Moose
Member
It was your thread that told us we needed one on here.PC gamers: this is dumb and unnecessary
Sony’s pro bono defense force: well actually
Helldivers 2 will require you to have a PSN account on PC
Interesting. Wonder if HFW will as well or if it’s because it’s an online only game.
Guilty_AI
Member
They had an upwards progression from "MS games can only be bought on MS store" -> "You can get MS games on steam with a MS account". Helldivers 2 evolved backwards, which obviously creates more backlash. How many times do i have to say this, and how many times will you keep ignoring it?
And if you want more examples, look up Doom Eternal and Bethesda Account.
Minecraft isn't even on Steam.
Mr Moose
Member
He meant the Minecraft at home.
I was joking but you do need a MS account for it. I didn't even know it was MP lol.
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winjer
Gold Member
That is not how to control the Steam helper service.
Run MSconfig. Then pick the Services tab. Disable the "Steam Client Service"
Restart Windows. Now try to run Steam and see the error it gives.
FunkMiller
Member
This is surely the key point, isn't it? Whether it's a hassle to create a PSN account or not (it's not really) it's still completely unnecessary, and is only happening to help Sony.
Why are so many gamers okay with giving a pass to stuff that only benefits the games companies, and not gamers?
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
What does the profile have?
Solarstrike
Member
It's a trap
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
People love crying over bullshit. Literally takes 2 minutes to create a free PSN account and you don't even have to use your main email, a burner email account will do.
I swear gamers are a bunch of fucking crybabies. EA, Ubisoft, MS all required me to make accounts when I bought their games on Steam. I didn't cry, I took 2 minutes to make the accounts and kept on gaming. The people crying over the info being stolen are on some bullshit. You don't need to link a real email or bank account to a PSN. You don't even need to use your real name or address. This outrage is just plain stupid lol.
I swear gamers are a bunch of fucking crybabies. EA, Ubisoft, MS all required me to make accounts when I bought their games on Steam. I didn't cry, I took 2 minutes to make the accounts and kept on gaming. The people crying over the info being stolen are on some bullshit. You don't need to link a real email or bank account to a PSN. You don't even need to use your real name or address. This outrage is just plain stupid lol.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It was your thread that told us we needed one on here.
Helldivers 2 will require you to have a PSN account on PC
Interesting. Wonder if HFW will as well or if it’s because it’s an online only game.
If it was there at launch like everyone thought initially it would be way less of an annoyance. I have a PSN profile and don’t really care so long as I only have to login once, but I can also see why people are miffed.
graywolf323
Member
of course he’s never had a problem with Xbox games requiring a Microsoft account
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Run services.msc -> set "Steam Client Service" to "Manual".
It did if you wanted to play online. I created one for Gears of War.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Of course not. The guy is a total clown and hypocrite. In fact, he spent years boasting about the MAUs MS was collecting from PSN, Switch, and Steam gamersof course he’s never had a problem with Xbox games requiring a Microsoft account
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
winjer
Gold Member
That is not how you control the Steam service.
Guilty_AI
Member
That services tabs isn't for managing startup programs. If you disable it all you're doing is blocking the service from ever running - which will obviously prevent steam from working.
You have to do as
rodrigolfp
said (i believe there's the option on steam settings as well) if you want to prevent it from running on startup.
panda-zebra
Member
Not sure it's only to help Sony.
Players on PC have been cheating and calling in stratagems that don't exist from maybe as far back as the week the game came out, ruining things for everyone else. In-game friends management has also been iffy since launch week with people stuck in friends or unable to be added. If making the game work the way it was advertised to from before launch all the way through to today helps combat the cheaters and make friends actually work as it should, it's better for everyone. It's not just about some statto at Sony wanting MOAR MAUs.
Draugoth
Gold Member
FalsettoVibe
Member
Gamers after hearing about kernel anti cheat:
Gamers after hearing about needing a PlayStation network account:
Gamers after hearing about needing a PlayStation network account:
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March Climber
Member
Yet another reason not to trust the Steam mostly positive/mostly negative scale, and people here will still point to it for reference of what is a good game and what is a bad game just like player count
winjer
Gold Member
That services tabs isn't for managing startup programs. If you disable it all you're doing is blocking the service from ever running - which will obviously prevent steam from working.
You have to do as
MSConfig doesn't disable programs or services from ever running.
It's a form of managing what programs and services startup with Windows.
Let me quote Microsoft:
Third Tab manages the Startup services.
You can check the services you want to run at startup and uncheck the ones you don't.
If you want to see only third-party services, installed by your applications, check the box which says "Hide all Microsoft services".
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Kernel anti cheat is at least useful for something.Gamers after hearing about kernel anti cheat:
Gamers after hearing about needing a PlayStation network account:
ManaByte
Gold Member
Jinzo Prime
Member
This is going to slow the sales and overall momentum of the game. If it wasn't for the kernel level anti-cheat, I would have bought it already. This move just makes it even less likely I'll bother.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
MSconfig only can disable some startup programs. Services.msc gives you more control over services and some startup programs. There you can set programs to "Manual" that allows programs like Steam Client Service only run when you run Steam.
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Unknown?
Member
Just slap a PS sticker on your tower. The empire has won!
