Timberwolf25
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I might play it if it comes to GamePass 
Otherwise I have too much to play/do right now, but I have been curious about it.
Otherwise I have too much to play/do right now, but I have been curious about it.
Helldivers 2 CEO reveals 500,490 players after Xbox release
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Mr Moose
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yurinka
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No, I'm not.
Me and several friends from other companies tried to find a common correlation having the daily sales and daily CCU peaks of several games and there wasn't, mostly because of the reasons I explained it to you plus a few other reasons including some we didn't detect. And any serious analyst / marketing guy will tell you the same.
Trying to make a decent sales estimate just with CCUs is dogshit that will have a big error margin that will heavily vary from a game to another because there isn't correlation.
Alinea is the new VGChartz, mading up numbers when still there isn't data to make a decent estimate.
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archangelmorph
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Just because you and your mates haven't worked out the methodologies to identify usefully predictive correlations doesn't mean they don't exist.
Your appeal to authority doesn't work because as I stated, I know firsthand from teams I'm personally familiar with in the industry that track these metrics and have fairly sophisticated quantitative models that identify correlations between CCUs and sales figures with fairly granular dimensionality to provide useful predictive power that drives their sales targets and estimations to drive portfolio investments and publishing cash flow and financing management.
These models are well back tested, mature and carry strong demonstrable confidence.
As far as you and your team are concerned; you simply need to hire better quants.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not only is it Alinea, but I like how Zuby tries to phrase it like "only 5% of the total Series console install base". Like 5% of the total install base in 2 days is supposed to be bad?
What percentage of the PS5 install base bought Helldivers since launch?
Zuby is the same, if not worse, than Colt but on the PS side, lol.
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yurinka
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My appeal to authority doesn't mean I'm right because of that, but means I know what I'm talking about.
100% bullshit, if serious people doesn't to estimate sales with CCU it's because that method is crap and we have way better ones.
DryvBy
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500k isn't a huge success. There's like 5 million on PS5 and 10 million on PC for that game. Even on launch month, there were in the multi million brackets already.
yurinka
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No, there aren't 5M in PS5 and 10M in PC, PC is only slighly ahead, something like 60:40 or 55:45 aprox. Probably around 9-10M PC and 7-8M PS or something like that.
And they didn't sell that in 2 days, took them a year and a half and with a way higher installbase and userbase than Xbox, a place where people on average buy less games due to GP. If it would have achieved 500K on launch day alone would have been a huge success, because would mean that they would end selling millions of copies on Xbox, and we know that the game generates even more money with its addons.
Durin
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The game's been out for over a year on multiple other platforms, selling that many copies after that time I think is fine. It was enough for the company to publicly drum up the number, if it was a true failure they'd just not talk about it at all.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
All time peak for steam was 458k around release.
StreetsofBeige
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500-600k sounds pretty good for a launch day.
How many did PS5/PC sell on launch day with what? 5x the user base combned? PS5 is 2x alone. Then add all the Steam users. And this game is 18 months old.
Best of all, it just cements more Sony games coming to Xbox. No way Sony is leaving on the table easy sales like this to help cover all their GAAS projects.
If youre an ecosystem warrior, I wouldnt bet that MLB and H2 are the only Xbox games ever releasing. Look what happened to any predictions that Horizon and DG would be the only PC ports when they slow rolled them out 5 years ago.
How many did PS5/PC sell on launch day with what? 5x the user base combned? PS5 is 2x alone. Then add all the Steam users. And this game is 18 months old.
Best of all, it just cements more Sony games coming to Xbox. No way Sony is leaving on the table easy sales like this to help cover all their GAAS projects.
If youre an ecosystem warrior, I wouldnt bet that MLB and H2 are the only Xbox games ever releasing. Look what happened to any predictions that Horizon and DG would be the only PC ports when they slow rolled them out 5 years ago.
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Mr Moose
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Yup, doubly shit Tweet. 5% of an install base would be pretty damn good for a new release, though the source made those numbers up.Not only is it Alinea, but I like how Zuby tries to phrase it like "only 5% of the total Series console install base". Like 5% of the total install base in 2 days is supposed to be bad?
What percentage of the PS5 install base bought Helldivers since launch?
Zuby is the same, if not worse, than Colt but on the PS side, lol.
DaleinCalgary
Member
I'm glad Xbox owners can enjoy this game
sigrad
Member
No. If a game is good we will buy it if it isn't on gamepass.
That's it. Nothing else needs to be said. Xbox players buy good games.
I bought this game. And so did a shit ton of other Xbox players.
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sigrad
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Those numbers are fit like 3 days of sales.
StreetsofBeige
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LOL. Not every console gamer (doesnt matter which one) even has a sub plan. And for the ones that do for Xbox, not everyone even has the higher GP tiers to get monthly games.