The world is not black and white, I'm not looking this at a perspective of perpetrator vs victim, it's a business negotiation and both parties want a good deal. We don't know the other side of that story, what we do know is who is in the wrong here, and it is clearly Hellena, breaking a NDA is like saying "my word was no value", a lie, so, why in the blue hell should we side with her?
They lowballed her. 'Getting her revenge'
Revenge? What sort of revenge do you mean?
Entitlement? Lmao
Getting a lowball offer, and then only 4k (union minimum), thats insulting.
I love Bayonetta, but this person was never the reason I bought the games. She is simply a voice and thousands of people can emulate it with little issue. She was paid the industry standard rates. She isn't a big name actress, she isn't part of a massive franchise (sorry, but Bayo is NOT a massive franchise and never was) - she isn't beholden to having higher pay.
That is exactly what I am saying. I am not bothered by it at all and clearly most people don't seem to give a flying shit given the game continues to sell increasingly well since this "Scandal" came out. If you want to make an argument that the industry is underpaying voice actors, then that is certainly a good discussion to have. However, nothing here is a surprise to anyone with half a brain cell. If she was paid *under* industry standard rates and not given the standard rate after negotiations (an every day tactic for ANY contract worker who isn't a big name), then people may have room to stand here. But that isn't what happened.
You are correct, however this actress didn't have a unique spin or voice. She isn't a Mark Hamill Joker. She isn't a David Hayter Snake, her performance can be done by literally thousands of others without missing a beat and something that clearly can be shown in the trailers for Bayo 3 with Hale.
I love the series but if you are asking me boycott this game that I have been waiting for a long time over voice actor then my answer is no.
quite sure coomers like the design
I'm not getting constant work either. Do you see me crying on social media?
Also.
I mean.. where is your professional twitter army when you quit your job because you didnt get a huge raise based on some weird idea that the company you work for makes so much money, and you, a person involved in one of the least successful of the company's projects is crucial to that success..
Lol how? Are you basing this off of twitter? Because I hate break this to you but twitter isn't the real world. Twitter is full of sociopaths, sycophants, and other looneys. Unless you know him personally, I wouldn't make disparaging remarks about him as a person
Just like Kamiya!
There is a lot of upstream work in this kind of stuffs. And you have to consider that this a 3rd installment of a franchise that made millions of $ and Helena was one of the part that made and created the character Bayonetta, that is also for reminder, the main character of the entire franchise. It's not that hard to understand that 4000$ is a joke in this situation.
If doing voice acting is a hit and miss career where making a stable living out of it is tough to do, then she should do something else in life. Most people who work have typical 9-5 kinds of jobs in a million different companies and industries. If the majority of people can find a normal job, I'm sure she can too.
Not only that but even if he was a dick on twitter, I wouldn't give a shit.
Of the many criticisms I have of the video that made us aware of this situation, directly calling for a boycott would be pretty high up on the list. Just speaking out about the situation would have caused some to boycott. Calling for it directly makes it look like she's a potential liability for those interested in hiring her. I agree her work should be worth considerably more to the project than 4000 dollars, but that aspect was a mistake, IMO.
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She's literally the most prolific female VA; like actually #1
This.
The company definitely is not going to say "due to wages she will not be reprising her role". They just look crappy if they did that. Scheduling issues is a common reason given.
I dont think the average gamer cares who voices any game they play. I know I dont. Reizo Ryuu told me (after I checked Google) Jennifer Hale is the most popular VA. I dont doubt this since her bio credits go on forever on IMDB for gaming and cartoon work.
I dont think the average person cares either, but I can see why a fan would be upset over this. It's lame when any role in a series gets recast.
nah. what she said was good to say.
What do you expect? A Cock fight? She is spot on, this game is not a product of an individual, but from a whole team that worked hard to make the best game they could given the time and resources. How is fair for them to have all their hard work boycotted over such petty statements. Hale was classy, didn't break her NDA, showed her support for her industry and make the very important defense of the team who created the game.
I didn't expect her to say anything, and ultimately she didn't.
You don't really need to know their names to value the voice that you already know. One of the most famous performances Jennifer Hale ever did was the female version of Shepard in Mass Effect. Imagine going from ME2 to ME3 and for some reason the voice sounds different. It's not worth more than 4000 dollars to prevent that sort of thing from happening?
Who says I dont understand why?
Doesn't change anything you said, but was she bound by an NDA when she declined a contract?
Looking though many pages on a search engine only shows this story and the previous one that she would be returning.
Shit, you can just click on the links? I usually just type them in the address bar. And it's not just the one page that you can see but there's stuff under it you can "scroll" to? I'm on my PC right now but I will try to remember this "swipe" thing for later.
