Alligatorjandro
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Racism has no place in the world.Shame these fucks every chance you get.
Hello There, Racists!
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I take huge issue with the idea that, through the internet, a generation of kids are growing up thinking that it's okay to spew this garbage for the world to see. If we don't actively and passionately expose and shame them, what else should be done? Just say "Well shucks, that ain't nice" and roll with the punches?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I've never seen "Don't re-nig" in my town, but I did see it in the redneck part of the county (San Diego) to the east just before the election.
I actually had a hard time processing it out of context the first time I saw it on GAF.
"...renig..."
"You mean 'renege'? Renege on what?"
"No, 'renig'."
"?"
"Renig"
/googles "Ooooooooooooooooh"
CommonSense
Banned
Never once did MY hero point a finger at an individual and cast judgement.
NaughtyCalibur
Member
Problem is, in cases like this it's easy to not recognize the harm until it's too late.
I'm sure a lot of blacks were just smiling and nodding 100 years ago too... right up until they got a noose around their neck.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
And thus the grand tradition of people hanging themselves upon their own free speech continues.
How should racism be fought if not like this?
Devolution
Member
He didn't cast judgment but the Civil Rights Movement was still about highlighting where discrimination is still happening. Racism wasn't ignored. Your history is fucking flawed.
Now exposing them is some act of cruelty? What the hell kind of bullshit is this?
and just for shits and giggles...
I'm willing to bet that the majority of people shaming these asshats, aren't even black. Its just a whats right issue. You can't say stupid shit online, and there is no way to protect you from publishing your fucketry. Some dude was threatening to call Amir0x's job for his shit on gaf, remember? All information that he gave up on gaf. It happens when your info is out there. Its almost a natural reaction that the internet does.
The police chief that fired the pepperspray on those girls... 4chan found him out in like 3 hours.
Why are people up in arms about these little racist cunts saying racist shit, and getting shit for it? Thats what we here are all used to. But this time its different because you want me to believe that some kid saying Hang a nigger by the rope, misspoke?
NoirVisage
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republican bs, i knew it smelled familiar. -__-
CommonSense
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No your interpretation of MY hietory if flawed. The minute you point a finger it's a fight. Why not try to educate instead?
I feel bad for the kids who will think it's okay to not take a stand against bigotry and racism. There's no place for it, never has nor will be.
Devolution
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Who do you even know to educate without awareness of racism to begin with? When you have people convinced we're in a post-racist world and don't even want to discuss that it is still an ever present problem, you can point to this tumblr and say "right here." We're still not close to even educating people about racism because we're stuck on "it's not a problem."
Great site.
CommonSense
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I'd rather convert 1 then scream at a thousand.
Devolution
Member
No you'd just smile, nod and be on your day.
Killa Sasa
Member
My dislike for "kids" being shamed on the internet is far smaller than my disdain for racists.
Some idiots learn the hard way. Life goes on. Eidan already said most of my personal stance.
The only can of worms here is potential impostering, imo.
Some idiots learn the hard way. Life goes on. Eidan already said most of my personal stance.
The only can of worms here is potential impostering, imo.
That kindness is deadly.
CommonSense
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No offense but fuck you, what the hell would you know about it?
Devolution
Member
Sometimes the only education is shaming. If they haven't learned by now well...
CommonSense
Banned
Thank you.
I'm mocking you. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Dude, explain to me how you, CommonSense, would prevent the internet from going internet, and exposing these racist people with their own public information? Its not like the NAACP put up the tumblr. Nor did they fund the original Gawker/Jezebel article about it.
Education is great, 1 on 1. However half these kids said that their accounts were hacked, and they didn't say the racist tweets...
If I post some ridiculous shit on Gaf, and leave my phone number & home address, why should I expect to be protected from my own stupidity?
But to your point. Shaming did cause a spotlight to be put on these people. Their parents were informed, Jobs were informed, as well as their schools. All that have made statements, disavowed the actions of the people and claimed to try to help them/go over the rules again.
So win win yeah?
Devolution
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Yeah I haven't dealt with lewd comments about a wet t-shirt contest yo. I understand the need to keep on walking. I don't understand the inability to recognize when others want to call it out and shaming the people focusing a spotlight.
but your argument is fucking warped, dude. You want to just ignore it till it goes away? I can't even think of an instance where that could possibly eliminate anything.
This tweet from Shelby "I just can't get over planet of the apes" Giles.
https://twitter.com/shellbee_g
Got the appropriate response.
https://twitter.com/shellbee_g
Got the appropriate response.
CommonSense
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Fight the cause...not the conduit. This will breed more haters than help thr cause.
Yes, putting them on blast on the Internet is going too far.
Is this not what you said you would do?
Shame is a perfectly acceptable form of education in regards to hate speech and over vile forms of ignorance, it's not the nicest way, but it has a bite, and that stays in people's minds.
Sex offenders are required to knock on the doors of houses and tell people of their sordid past offenses when they move into a neighborhood. It protects people, and grieves the offenders. We should have a similar program for racists.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Absolute bullshit.
You're free to (more or less) say what you want and not face legal consequences.
Others have the right to call you out on your shit, shun you, etc.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
haha
This is good not because it's public shaming or because it's condemning people for racism, but because it reminds people that saying things online isn't like making throwaway comments to your friends offline. People need to learn that when you put things online, they can be permanently tied to your name.
The cause is the conduit. Society is a self-referential organism. People making comments like this breed more comments -- shaming and criticizing those comments creates a chilling effect that reduces them. It's pretty straightforward psychology.
You're asking the impossible.
The cause of racism is ignorance, experience, or demographics. There is no way you or any other black could fight the cause, as you'd probably get arrested in Arizona for looking illegal on your first stop.
What is actually realistic, is for people who can educate these people; Life Experience/Parents/Teachers/Employers. Having the ability to see where these kids are going wrong, and correct their course. And that is exactly what happened with this shaming.
sarcasm?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Exactly.
Freedom of speech is not without consequences.
Why are some of these people making these moronic remarks also appear to be fans of rap music, dress like black rappers and whatnot?
Anyways, we had the Obama supporters who threatened to riot if Romney won. Stupidity comes on both sides of the political spectrum.
That's what I thought when I came across this one. It could be misinterpreted. Let's hope that's the case.
I think this one is not that bad, she is just reacting to the coments of other people =P
I really hope it is only that...
CommonSense
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If I spent my days yelling at every racist I saw I would never leave my town. A confident smile and eye contact is sometimes all it takes to change an opinion. We must show we are not going down to their level.
Killa Sasa
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Exactly. Say what you want by exercising your right to free speech, but my personal right to free speech gives me and others the ability to call you out on your ass-hattery.
It's not just some magic laser shield for saying whatever you want -- it goes both ways, and a lot of people just don't get that for some reason.
This is an important lesson for people to learn too. People tend to forget that the internet is essentially written in ink, not pencil (yeah I quoted Social Network, so what, wanna fight about it?).
How is collecting their PUBLIC DISPLAYS OF HATE "getting down to their level"?
monchi-kun
Member
How does one separate the racist (individual) from the racism (behavior)?
MLK's Letter from Birmingham
As I said earlier, social media has an amplifying effect. This means that there should be more urgency to tackle racist behavior head on. This tumblr site is the tension that is necessary to for the wider community to face the issue head on.
Devolution
Member
Who said anything about you having to do this irl. This is why I was mentioning that I understand some people just want to go about their day. You're going out of your way to shame the guy pointing a spotlight on racism on twitter. Seems to me you want to ignore it everywhere and on your terms. That's not how you deal with ignorance.
Joel Was Right
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These people are not commenting behind a privacy wall, nor are they hiding their identities - rather they are using their names and faces to state their opinions on a public open platform. Pointing to these is fair game.
In the Facebook election fallout thread, Gaffers would often hide the names of those commenting presumably because they did so behind a privacy setting where only their friends could view their posts. Trying to collect information on the identity of those people would be, in contrast, wrong.
In the Facebook election fallout thread, Gaffers would often hide the names of those commenting presumably because they did so behind a privacy setting where only their friends could view their posts. Trying to collect information on the identity of those people would be, in contrast, wrong.
hillsighed
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Sure are a lot of quotes from high schoolers on that blog.
I think you're confused on what internet shaming is...........................?
Again, remember the NYPD police chief that pepper sprayed the shit out of those girls? He was shamed via the internet. You do something stupid on the net, people figure it out. And its even that more easier when you give up all your public information on your twitter feed.
Wouldnt doubt a visit for some of these people.
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