Professor Beef
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I hope you're not trying to compare taking pictures of women's asses without their consent to publicly available tweets.
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I hope you're not trying to compare taking pictures of women's asses without their consent to publicly available tweets.
Those being "lynched" in the instance you're referring to would be more than happy with the other, less noxious form of lynching that their grandpappies took part in:
But hey, don't want to offend the decent sensibilities of my white brethren now do we?
scar tissue
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Arguably, the pursuit of the "creepshotters" is less justified, because they did not reveal their personal information.
Both making racist tweets and taking creepshots is morally disgusting, yet legal.
Anyway, I really don't see how a case can be made that outing the creeps is more justified than outing the racists.
nVidiot_Whore
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I am comparing them. Aspects are comparable.
I hope you aren't suggesting I'm equating the 2 acts. To compare 2 things is not to equate them morally or ethically.
The comparison being: they are both legal acts, that no law enforcement agency would ever do anything about. So people took to the internet to "out them", which is also perfectly legal. I don't need someone's consent to take their picture in the US out in public. I also don't need your consent to accurately portray something you've done on the internet. If you did it.. posted it.. said it.. it's not libelous.
Those are objective comparisons of the 2 acts that don't get into the subjective morality of the acts being "outted."
What I'm saying is: Where were all these "The precedent is wrong no matter what you think of the act" types in the creepshots thread?
Especially considering one of the differences was: the creepshoters had to be e-stalked to reveal their identities, or betrayed by people they trusted with their identities.
I'm not really discussing any of the subjective morality.
I was already having a great weekend, but this made it that much better...
Fucking hilarious. Great stuff.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I feel absolutely no sympathy for these racist assholes getting busted for being racist assholes. Why should I?
The picture above of the lynching makes my blood boil.
Count Dookkake
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Has anyone ever tried to ID all the scumbags in those lynching pics?
I'm not sure anyone has implied that racists or hate speech are worthy of sympathy. Rather, that those of us who are opposed to that sort of thing are better served by finding alternatives to the bullying and harassment of anonymous internet lynch mobs.
Professor Beef
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I would say that this is one of the better ways for them to own up to what they've said. It's not like anyone else is going to make them take responsibility.
Joel Was Right
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I was already having a great weekend, but this made it that much better...
Is this because his employer found his tweets on the election?
nVidiot_Whore
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Some of these people are using racist hash tags.. which means they are hoping for them to trend.. hoping for attention.
They might as well be signing up for harassment.
I'm definitely weary of the precedent in general and understand the concern, but this seems to truly be a case of people looking for attention, and then not taking responsibility when that attention turns sour.
CHEEZMO
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These are the sort of people who think Free Speech means "I can say whatever the hell I want and you have to like it".
Professor Beef
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"bigdoug92" deleted his twitter account. He's learning!
QisTopTier
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CHEEZMO;44498034 said:
The best part is those same people sure get offended easy when people say stuff.
Agreed, but your post is quite hypocritical given the amount of posters that were explicitly wishing physical harm on Romney during the election within this very forum.
freenudemacusers
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The hot/intelligent thread title switch is one thing, but renaming the zwarte piet thread is too much.
Wouldn't it only be hypocritical if it were Kreed specifically doing the harm wishing?
Stumpokapow
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Any time we saw a poster doing that, we banned them. There's a bright line between people getting upset about politics and people wishing or threatening physical harm.
It was real gross.
All of my will and intestinal fortitude not to unload upon certain posters in this topic a string of profanities and belittlement so great in number, toxic in composition, and combustible in nature as to sear a hole into the very essence of NeoGAF where the scorch mark that was once the spot upon which a member could be found remains.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
How did I miss that..
I was already having a great weekend, but this made it that much better...
Yes, madam, may I please have another?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
And many were banned..
It can't be justified but do you think race had something to do with it?
I mean if Obama were white I believe we would have people saying dumb shit but I don't think the amount of wishing death upon him in horrible would have been as large.. But who knows..
Dude, it burns when I see shit like that occurring.
Nah, man. The immediate explosion of hatred and ignorance that was the Tea Party would have happened even if Obama was fully white instead of half-white. Same with the accusations that he was a muslim, atheist, non-citizen, capital "H" Hussein, communist, socialist, ignorant, partially retarded, person that associated with black-power extremists, racist against the white race, big-eared big-nosed, lazy, feckless, welfare giving, handout-loving, foodstamp embodying, imposter to the title of the President of the United States of America who callously wracks up debt without any forethought for the future, and person who took the white out of the white house.
Those are all criticisms that would have also been said had Obama been a white man.
Yep.
A similar tumblr made a post about Psy performing at the American Music Awards.
The rest of the blog stalks Twitter accounts to record "political hypocrisies" (Obama related).
The rest of the blog stalks Twitter accounts to record "political hypocrisies" (Obama related).
The last tweet is such a backhanded complement. Also a lotta girls there wth.
Rayven_king
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i guess there really is a gaf defense force for everything
I'm more shocked at the people defending these racist assholes and accusing the curator of the tumblr for collating their publicly disclosed information with their racists tweets
The Incarnation
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I think letting some of these individuals feel a sense of shame is something they should experience.
They obviously live in a bubble where this behaviour and language is not challenged. From the amount of them running scared deleting accounts and lying saying they were hacked that sense of real consequences and shame has finally caught up with them.
Yeah they have free speech. But it's freaking 2012 and their thinking and language is probably no better than the racists who used to hang blacks from trees that on the level is disturbing.
And with how many tweets on these sites I've seen about lynching seems a few fair people would still love it if that was still allowed.
They obviously live in a bubble where this behaviour and language is not challenged. From the amount of them running scared deleting accounts and lying saying they were hacked that sense of real consequences and shame has finally caught up with them.
Yeah they have free speech. But it's freaking 2012 and their thinking and language is probably no better than the racists who used to hang blacks from trees that on the level is disturbing.
And with how many tweets on these sites I've seen about lynching seems a few fair people would still love it if that was still allowed.
But .. but .... every year there are AT LEAST a UK bands there
"Yeah, but they're probably white and that makes it ok."
Can't help but think that's probably why the hatred is there.
It ties in quite perfectly with this whole thing. I saw a lot of tweets moaning about how the president should be white and only white. Seems this is along the same line of thinking
These people are crazy.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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More stupefying content. How can they lose their shit like that over the mere appearance of a guy?
for one thing, no one is hunting anyone down. and for another thing, these people did put their own personal info up there. The site maker said he pulled all of those pictures from their twitter and tumbler and Facebook pages. These people weren't hacked, they were looked at.
I take zero pleasure from their pain. But I do take pleasure in the possibility that this will affect them enough that they might think it's time for a change. That "people think I'm racist because I called the president a nigger" response is also a possible outcome, but that's when I do a mind-cringe.
One problem with this is that attitudes can change over time, whereas enough internet connections will basically make any ignorant comment last potentially forever. As much as I applaud outing racists, part of me also notes how young many of these people are and wonders how this will impact their lives in the far future - even if their perspectives change in the meantime.
So yeah, conflicted.
So yeah, conflicted.
Young people need to learn basic facts of internet usage fast and at a very young age. And to be fair, a recent research I read in a newspaper has shown that kids have learnt to act more carefully on Facebook (some even delete their account).
I don't feel bad for people acting irresponsibly on public.
Note to self: do not piss The Adder off.
Most times when young people learn lessons they don't include consequences extending decades into the future. This isn't like someone scolding a child for pushing his sister down and causing her to skin her knee - this could have a perpetual impact on the person's future even if they learn the lesson.
They made a public racist announcement. The correct means of addressing the situation is to own up to it and apologize. This shows they learned their lesson. It is really that simple. Words got them into the mess, and they will work at getting them out of it.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but you have it backwards. Try to think of it in less emotionally personal terms. Instead of "Well what if they were just JOKING about taking the vote away from niggers" (which sounds ridiculous) ask instead: Are 'shoot first and ask questions later' tactics ever acceptable if the goal is to combat injustice? How can they be, if they may in fact create more injustice (however small that possibility might seem)?
I think it is important to ask these questions in situations like this. Doing so is not trying to defend the racists. It is trying to defend us from ourselves, to ensure that we do not stoop to the base impulses that drive what we are supposed to be fighting in the first place.
Do you think addressing a problem that is rooted in hatred with more hatred helps solve the problem? I don't.
Does responding to dissenting views with unbridled anger help combat ignorance? Even when those views are from those who share your goals but not your methods?
So you want to basically do nothing? This is not a witch hunt, these people actually did these things and someone is compiling them for easy viewing.
Do you think sentencing people to community service is okay. Because community service is essentially public shaming, it's a public consequence for someone's actions.
These people put this nonsense out there and there should be consequences for their actions.
When did pointing out racism become worse than the racism itself?!
SouthernDragon
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Say vile things publicly, get judged publicly. I'm not seeing the issue here.
If I just start saying "I hate niggers" in the middle of a waiting line, I should expect some double takes at the very least.
If I just start saying "I hate niggers" in the middle of a waiting line, I should expect some double takes at the very least.
Do you think holding nothing but an utter contempt for an individual because they are, for example, a loathsome human being on a personal level is the same as hating a group of people based on nothing but a coincidence of birth? I don't.
The people that tend to play the "Free speech" card also tend to not want to acknowledge that second part.
So this is a good one:
hellothereracists.tumblr.com/post/3...ess-and-timothy-price-of-mccomb#disqus_thread
The racist Christian girl is pretty bad on its own, but the real gem is in the comments:
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Jason Wright • 13 hours ago
Damn she is cute! And she is RACIST TOO? She can look me up when she's 18 lol
Have you ever met an ANTI-RACIST that wasn't just a blatantly ANTI-WHITE GENOCIDAL SOCIOPATH? Me Neither
You will NEVER meet an "Anti-Racist" that says Haiti needs more Diversity
You will NEVER meet an "Anti-Racist" that says Korea needs more Diversity
According to "Anti-Racists" they are already 100% Diverse since they aren't WHITE
Since Iceland was white, "Anti-Racists" said it needed Diversity, so they were flooded with the 3rd world along with EVERY other white country on the planet
The TRUE goal of "Anti-Racism" is to GENOCIDE my race, the white race.
Anti-Racist is a codeword for Anti-White
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There we have it. Racism turns people on. This explains so much.
MWS Natural
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Interesting that there are so many young people with these beliefs. People are always claiming racism will take a hit once the "old people die off"...yeah...no.
Thats what I'm seeing. Its kind of horrible, those people just taught their kids the same hate, and they aren't exposed to enough minorities to know that this shit isn't acceptable. However, the good news is that the racists are becoming a smaller insignificant minority.
Fancy that.
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