Salt water doesn't flow from a fresh water lake.its sad but a lot of time that "racism" its just ( i dont know how you say this on english) a bit of "speed tonge" or being a asshole just for stupid reasons
let me put an example,i have two friends who are always joking about black inmigrants,and one day on bad wheater day one guy fell to the water from the harbour,they got into the water and that action was very dangerous at the time,guess what,was a black man
are they assholes and their jokes are of bad taste? sure,but REAL racists? i bet 90 of these people say that because talking shit on the internet its free (minuts that asshole who lost its job) and are racists because its sounds cool or bad ass on their circles
i hope my poor english dont make this post sound like i want to excuse racists jokes or similar
Fixed for programmers.ITT: Some deluded people think freedom of speech == freedom from consequences.
You don't need a reason to fire someone. It's their right as an employer to decide.
Something as simple as "your ideology conflicts with the example this company is trying to set" would be more than enough
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.
Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience with anonymous handles are being stalked and exposed.
Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see.
All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light.
See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.
I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.
Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.
Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.
All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.
See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.
I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.
Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.
Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.
All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.
See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.
I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
CHEEZMO;44443671 said:Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.
High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist trees apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.
One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.
Let Sam have an apple, asked a little girl.
I dont think so. Hes black, said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.
I cant believe the racist tree is such a racist, said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.
It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.
The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.
Can I offer you some apples? asked the tree eagerly.
Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi, said the child.
The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitlers fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.
And so, social progress was made.
I bet he gave the apples with worms to the black children.
CHEEZMO;44443671 said:Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.
High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist trees apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.
One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.
Let Sam have an apple, asked a little girl.
I dont think so. Hes black, said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.
I cant believe the racist tree is such a racist, said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.
It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.
The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.
Can I offer you some apples? asked the tree eagerly.
Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi, said the child.
The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitlers fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.
And so, social progress was made.
Just a minor amendment: racism is inherently destructive. That's part of the definition, as it is an action word. Bigotry more fits your description.Racism is divisive at best, and destructive at worst.
Is that what you would do? Maybe claim that the negro is asking for welfare and handouts?
Are you serious? Are you really equating being pro-choice with being a huge racist? Not a single one of your examples is an example of a group of people who hold destructive, violent views of other people. Racism prevents hardworking, educated, intelligent people from getting jobs. It stops them from having the rights and the freedom that others enjoy. It forces minorities who grow up in America to question their ability to be what they want to be, purely because it doesn't fit within the perceived purview of their given race. Racism is not innocent, or silly ignorance. These people grow up to affect the very lives of other Americans.
Racism is divisive at best, and destructive at worst.
* - 'Private' facebook/Twitter pages are private in name only.
Its not the internets job or capacity to educate people about racism. There is no right or wrong in shaming. Public information on the internet happens, people do things with the information they find. Its not illegal, and morality is subjective. This thread, has too many people, like yourself, assigning traits to the internet and humanity that don't exist in reality.
You may not condone certain instances of shaming, but shaming is shaming.
My knowledge allows me to know that people will be people. Just like the people that are responding to these racist and violent comments. And just like the people that thought it was a good idea to call the president a nigger and to request his lynching.
The only lesson that these people all need to learn, is that the internet isn't their private hate filled soap-box. This happens all the time in our world. Keep your racism to yourself.
Those aren't the same thing.
-Threatening to murder the president is against the law.
Racism prevents hardworking, educated, intelligent people from getting jobs. It stops them from having the rights and the freedom that others enjoy. It forces minorities who grow up in America to question their ability to be what they want to be, purely because it doesn't fit within the perceived purview of their given race. Racism is not innocent, or silly ignorance. These people grow up to affect the very lives of other Americans.
This spirit of lynching is extremely noxious, and it is absurd to me that many people not only do not see it, but instead applaud it. It is inherently wrong because, although it starts with a noble aim, the ultimate aim is to destroy the dignity of others while purporting to support human dignity in general, and that's why it is dishonorable and so noxious.
Yeah, I found that out the hard way.CHEEZMO;44444368 said:So much for liberals being the "tolerant" ones, eh?
I get where you're coming from, but there is a big difference between making a ethnically insensitive joke because there was an obvious setup ... or making an ethnically insensitive joke directly towards one of your friends of that ethnicity who's okay with it ("well it makes sense you'd do the opposite - being Polish and all") ...devo
because racist its everywhere,not just white people
i spend time on southafrica and black people were racist againts other less or more black people,on china people are racist against people of other regions
being black or a minority doest free you from being racist
its sad but a lot of time that "racism" its just ( i dont know how you say this on english) a bit of "speed tonge" or being a asshole just for stupid reasons
let me put an example,i have two friends who are always joking about black inmigrants,and one day on bad wheater day one guy fell to the water from the harbour,they got into the water and that action was very dangerous at the time,guess what,was a black man
are they assholes and their jokes are of bad taste? sure,but REAL racists? i bet 90 of these people say that because talking shit on the internet its free (minuts that asshole who lost its job) and are racists because its sounds cool or bad ass on their circles
i hope my poor english dont make this post sound like i want to excuse racists jokes or similar
lolFixed for programmers.
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Squelching hate speech through intimidation and shaming will do nothing to address any of those issues other than putting one particular expression of them into a box you do not have to look at.
Spot on. This type of "wall of shame" behavior does not provide any positive change, it merely provides a venue for people to cheer on the debasement of those they see as villains.
Yeah, I found that out the hard way.
Damn.. A people seriously still this ignorant?!
It gets even worse than that.
Have any of you read about "swatting"?
It's been a huge controversy this year, with liberal activists making prank calls so that SWAT team come to terrorize conservative bloggers and their family.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...e-swat-ting-attacks-on-conservative-bloggers/
Again, I find it absurd that so many view it as perfectly fine and don't see how things could turn very ugly, very quickly. It is a Lord of the Flies type of situation.
It would be trivial to manipulate this site to frame someone you don't like..
There will be some innocent victims in this fight against Fascist agents. We are launching a major attack on the Enemy; let there be no resentment if we bump someone with an elbow. Better that ten innocent people should suffer than one spy get away. When you chop wood, chips fly
Nothing reinforces your stance of being morally superior like going on a witch hunt.
ITT: Some deluded people think freedom of speech = freedom from consequences.
I don't see what is wrong with any of that. Though abortions should be covered by patient/doctor confidentiality. If the patient talked about their abortion publicly, then I don't see why it should be off limits to be blogged. It is on a public site, so it is up for public consumption.Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.
Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.
Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.
All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.
See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.
I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
Seriously? She's dropping N-bombs?
ITT: Some deluded people think freedom of speech = freedom from consequences.
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Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.
Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.
Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.
All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.
See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.
I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
is something totally different and absolutely wrong.The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.
CHEEZMO™;44443671 said:Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.
High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist tree’s apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.
One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.
“Let Sam have an apple,” asked a little girl.
“I don’t think so. He’s black,” said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.
“I can’t believe the racist tree is such a racist,” said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.
It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.
The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.
“Can I offer you some apples?” asked the tree eagerly.
“Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi,” said the child.
The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitler’s fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.
And so, social progress was made.
It's also worth pointing out that anyone can make Twitter / Facebook accounts and claim to be someone else - If I had a vendetta against someone I knew, I could easily make a fake twitter account using their info, blast a few racist tweets out, and end up on someone's racist tumblr page and potentially ruin future job prospects etc.
Slippery slope.
So what is your solution to this issue?
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yeah i'm having a hard time feeling sorry for these people.#dead
Not sure what the problem is here, folks. You can say whatever you like, and by the same token we can hold it against you. If the cockroaches scuttle when exposed to the light, am I supposed to feel sorry for them?
yeah i'm having a hard time feeling sorry for these people.
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I was already having a great weekend, but this made it that much better...
This spirit of lynching is extremely noxious, and it is absurd to me that many people not only do not see it, but instead applaud it. It is inherently wrong because, although it starts with a noble aim, the ultimate aim is to destroy the dignity of others while purporting to support human dignity in general, and that's why it is dishonorable and so noxious.