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"Racist Teens Forced to Answer for Tweets About the ‘Nigger’ President"

I love it. Do you think it deserves it's own thread?
 
No problem with this.

its sad but a lot of time that "racism" its just ( i dont know how you say this on english) a bit of "speed tonge" or being a asshole just for stupid reasons

let me put an example,i have two friends who are always joking about black inmigrants,and one day on bad wheater day one guy fell to the water from the harbour,they got into the water and that action was very dangerous at the time,guess what,was a black man

are they assholes and their jokes are of bad taste? sure,but REAL racists? i bet 90 of these people say that because talking shit on the internet its free (minuts that asshole who lost its job) and are racists because its sounds cool or bad ass on their circles

i hope my poor english dont make this post sound like i want to excuse racists jokes or similar
Salt water doesn't flow from a fresh water lake.

People who aren't racist don't make those jokes. That's the reality. Maybe they cover it up well, but in my life I've learned that when someone's defenses are down and they show you who they REALLY are, believe them.

Upgrade your friends.
 
You don't need a reason to fire someone. It's their right as an employer to decide.
Something as simple as "your ideology conflicts with the example this company is trying to set" would be more than enough

well, i know that in a "right-to-work" state its like that, they could fire you for breathing if they really wanted to. i guess its just something that sounds funny in my head (the actual event in which you get fired) -- getting called in for something you posted on twitter and they say "we read that, now you're fired."
 
Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.

High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist tree’s apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.

One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.

“Let Sam have an apple,” asked a little girl.

“I don’t think so. He’s black,” said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.

“I can’t believe the racist tree is such a racist,” said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.

It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.

The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.

“Can I offer you some apples?” asked the tree eagerly.

“Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi,” said the child.

The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitler’s fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.

And so, social progress was made.
 
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.

Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.

Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.

All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.

See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.

I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
 
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.

Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience with anonymous handles are being stalked and exposed.

Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see.

All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light.

See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.

I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.

I think I could find examples of all of those things already online given time.
 
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.

Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.

Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.

All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.

See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.

I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.

Those aren't the same thing.

-Threatening to murder the president is against the law.
-Unlike racism, the things mentioned do not affect other people in such a harmful way.
 
Don't be a giant racist idiot and post about how racist you are on the internet using your real name, and you won't have to worry about getting fired from whatever retail chain you work for.

It's as simple as that. This tumblr isn't plumbing the depths of this man's private emails. It's merely aggregating tweets that were public the day they were typed and sent. You can't just say whatever the fuck you want on the internet, and expect zero consequences.

Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.

Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.

Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.

All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.

See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.

I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.

Are you serious? Are you really equating being pro-choice with being a huge racist? Not a single one of your examples is an example of a group of people who hold destructive, violent views of other people. Racism prevents hardworking, educated, intelligent people from getting jobs. It stops them from having the rights and the freedom that others enjoy. It forces minorities who grow up in America to question their ability to be what they want to be, purely because it doesn't fit within the perceived purview of their given race. Racism is not innocent, or silly ignorance. These people grow up to affect the very lives of other Americans.

Racism is divisive at best, and destructive at worst.
 
CHEEZMO™;44443671 said:
Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.

High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist tree’s apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.

One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.

“Let Sam have an apple,” asked a little girl.

“I don’t think so. He’s black,” said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.

“I can’t believe the racist tree is such a racist,” said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.

It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.

The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.

“Can I offer you some apples?” asked the tree eagerly.

“Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi,” said the child.

The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitler’s fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.

And so, social progress was made.

I bet he gave the apples with worms to the black children.
 
CHEEZMO™;44443671 said:
Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.

High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist tree’s apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.

One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.

“Let Sam have an apple,” asked a little girl.

“I don’t think so. He’s black,” said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.

“I can’t believe the racist tree is such a racist,” said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.

It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.

The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.

“Can I offer you some apples?” asked the tree eagerly.

“Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi,” said the child.

The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitler’s fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.

And so, social progress was made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Qu3iP3RYA
 
Are you serious? Are you really equating being pro-choice with being a huge racist? Not a single one of your examples is an example of a group of people who hold destructive, violent views of other people. Racism prevents hardworking, educated, intelligent people from getting jobs. It stops them from having the rights and the freedom that others enjoy. It forces minorities who grow up in America to question their ability to be what they want to be, purely because it doesn't fit within the perceived purview of their given race. Racism is not innocent, or silly ignorance. These people grow up to affect the very lives of other Americans.

Racism is divisive at best, and destructive at worst.

My point was that these situations could be manipulated by individuals who oppose them and presented in such a way as to ruin the reputations of people engaging in them, and once again, it could be said that these would be things posted publicly, and it would thus be fair game.

This spirit of lynching is extremely noxious, and it is absurd to me that many people not only do not see it, but instead applaud it. It is inherently wrong because, although it starts with a noble aim, the ultimate aim is to destroy the dignity of others while purporting to support human dignity in general, and that's why it is dishonorable and so noxious.
 
* - 'Private' facebook/Twitter pages are private in name only.

Lol at deleting or switching to private after you've already been caught.
Besides, a lot of employers want your login anyway.
 
Its not the internets job or capacity to educate people about racism. There is no right or wrong in shaming. Public information on the internet happens, people do things with the information they find. Its not illegal, and morality is subjective. This thread, has too many people, like yourself, assigning traits to the internet and humanity that don't exist in reality.

You may not condone certain instances of shaming, but shaming is shaming.

My knowledge allows me to know that people will be people. Just like the people that are responding to these racist and violent comments. And just like the people that thought it was a good idea to call the president a nigger and to request his lynching.

The only lesson that these people all need to learn, is that the internet isn't their private hate filled soap-box. This happens all the time in our world. Keep your racism to yourself.

Late as hell but;
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Those aren't the same thing.

-Threatening to murder the president is against the law.

Tumblr.com is not associated with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Racism prevents hardworking, educated, intelligent people from getting jobs. It stops them from having the rights and the freedom that others enjoy. It forces minorities who grow up in America to question their ability to be what they want to be, purely because it doesn't fit within the perceived purview of their given race. Racism is not innocent, or silly ignorance. These people grow up to affect the very lives of other Americans.

Squelching hate speech through intimidation and shaming will do nothing to address any of those issues other than putting one particular expression of them into a box you do not have to look at.

This spirit of lynching is extremely noxious, and it is absurd to me that many people not only do not see it, but instead applaud it. It is inherently wrong because, although it starts with a noble aim, the ultimate aim is to destroy the dignity of others while purporting to support human dignity in general, and that's why it is dishonorable and so noxious.

Spot on. This type of "wall of shame" behavior does not provide any positive change, it merely provides a venue for people to cheer on the debasement of those they see as villains.
 
devo

because racist its everywhere,not just white people

i spend time on southafrica and black people were racist againts other less or more black people,on china people are racist against people of other regions

being black or a minority doest free you from being racist

its sad but a lot of time that "racism" its just ( i dont know how you say this on english) a bit of "speed tonge" or being a asshole just for stupid reasons

let me put an example,i have two friends who are always joking about black inmigrants,and one day on bad wheater day one guy fell to the water from the harbour,they got into the water and that action was very dangerous at the time,guess what,was a black man

are they assholes and their jokes are of bad taste? sure,but REAL racists? i bet 90 of these people say that because talking shit on the internet its free (minuts that asshole who lost its job) and are racists because its sounds cool or bad ass on their circles

i hope my poor english dont make this post sound like i want to excuse racists jokes or similar
I get where you're coming from, but there is a big difference between making a ethnically insensitive joke because there was an obvious setup ... or making an ethnically insensitive joke directly towards one of your friends of that ethnicity who's okay with it ("well it makes sense you'd do the opposite - being Polish and all") ...

... what's going on here is very different.





Fixed for programmers.
lol
 
Tumblr.com is not associated with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.



Squelching hate speech through intimidation and shaming will do nothing to address any of those issues other than putting one particular expression of them into a box you do not have to look at.



Spot on. This type of "wall of shame" behavior does not provide any positive change, it merely provides a venue for people to cheer on the debasement of those they see as villains.

So what is your solution to this issue?
 
Yeah, I found that out the hard way.

It gets even worse than that.

Have any of you read about "swatting"?

It's been a huge controversy this year, with liberal activists making prank calls so that SWAT team come to terrorize conservative bloggers and their family.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...e-swat-ting-attacks-on-conservative-bloggers/

Again, I find it absurd that so many view it as perfectly fine and don't see how things could turn very ugly, very quickly. It is a Lord of the Flies type of situation.

Outlets like Gawker who purposedly fuel the situation for their own gain are a whole new low. This network consistently sets the bar for human behavior on the Internet lower. There's a reason all Gawker sites are blocked in my HOSTS file.
 
Damn.. A people seriously still this ignorant?!

yeah, it's disheartening..until you realize what a thing it's become, that now saying dumb shit like that is such a minority view amongst people that you get screencap'd and shamed for it, where only so far back people could say shit like that publicly without any fear of consequence, even finger-waving.
 
It gets even worse than that.

Have any of you read about "swatting"?

It's been a huge controversy this year, with liberal activists making prank calls so that SWAT team come to terrorize conservative bloggers and their family.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...e-swat-ting-attacks-on-conservative-bloggers/

Again, I find it absurd that so many view it as perfectly fine and don't see how things could turn very ugly, very quickly. It is a Lord of the Flies type of situation.

Counter-revolutionaries belong in the Gulag, if you disagree, you are a counter-revolutionary yourself. :)\

That being said, there is a huge difference between the Tumbler site and "swatting". (#1 is free speech, #2 is illegal and will get you several years).
 
It would be trivial to manipulate this site to frame someone you don't like..

As one true progressive once said

There will be some innocent victims in this fight against Fascist agents. We are launching a major attack on the Enemy; let there be no resentment if we bump someone with an elbow. Better that ten innocent people should suffer than one spy get away. When you chop wood, chips fly
 
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.

Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.

Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.

All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.

See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.

I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.
I don't see what is wrong with any of that. Though abortions should be covered by patient/doctor confidentiality. If the patient talked about their abortion publicly, then I don't see why it should be off limits to be blogged. It is on a public site, so it is up for public consumption.
 
I see a lot wrong with that. Unless you're the president, medical procedures are not a matter of public record. Your opinion when stated on a public forum is.
 
Let's say someone thinks that getting an abortion is abominable, and decides to out women who posted about it on a forum by stalking them through their IM handles.

Or let's say someone thinks that female promiscuity is an abomination, and tries to start a similar site where promiscuous women who posted accounts of their experience are being stalked and exposed.

Or let's say someone thinks being a practicing homosexual is an abomination and decides to start a blog where homosexuals are being outed for all to see. The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.

All three things that are still considered by many to some extent as not so socially acceptable, or which could at least affect someone's reputation. The person using a search engine would be lead to the person's name on an anonymous blog, with their benign quotes taken out of context, and altogether put in such a way as to show the individual in the worst possible light. They would then have a horrible view of these persons, and could deny them a job, or not want to associate with them.

See how dangerous it is to say that this is an acceptable way to deter from abhorrent behavior? Not only not everyone has the same definition of what abhorrent is, but it is not being abused only for righteous means. It can be used to ruin someone's reputation for just about any reason, or even no reason at all.

I know I will never agree with publicly shaming or destroying individuals, or reveling in it in any way.

If the people who are being blogged about posted all of this information publicly, I see no problem with this.
This:
The person pretends to be sympathetic, gets them to give enough detail to link them to their real identities, and uses it against them.
is something totally different and absolutely wrong.

CHEEZMO™;44443671 said:
Once upon a time, there was a racist tree. Seriously, you are going to hate this tree.

High on a hill overlooking the town, the racist tree grew where the grass was half clover. Children would visit during the sunlit hours and ask for apples, and the racist tree would shake its branches and drop the delicious red fruit that gleamed without being polished. The children ate many of the racist tree’s apples and played games beneath the shade of its racist branches.

One day the children brought Sam, a boy who had just moved to town to, to play around the racist tree.

“Let Sam have an apple,” asked a little girl.

“I don’t think so. He’s black,” said the tree. This shocked the children and they spoke to the tree angrily, but it would not shake its branches to give Sam an apple, and it called him a nigger.

“I can’t believe the racist tree is such a racist,” said one child. The children momentarily reflected that perhaps this kind of behavior was how the racist tree got its name.

It was decided that if the tree was going to deny apples to Sam then nobody would take its apples. The children stopped visiting the racist tree.

The racist tree grew quite lonely. After many solitary weeks it saw a child flying a kite across the clover field.

“Can I offer you some apples?” asked the tree eagerly.

“Fuck off, you goddamn Nazi,” said the child.

The racist tree was upset, because while it was very racist, it did not personally subscribe to Hitler’s fascist ideology. The racist tree decided that it would have to give apples to black children. not because it was tolerant, but because otherwise it would face ostracism from white children.

And so, social progress was made.

This is great.
 
It's also worth pointing out that anyone can make Twitter / Facebook accounts and claim to be someone else - If I had a vendetta against someone I knew, I could easily make a fake twitter account using their info, blast a few racist tweets out, and end up on someone's racist tumblr page and potentially ruin future job prospects etc.

Slippery slope.

Very, one of the reasons why it won't be too long before you have to offer the more personal info to sign up to even the most basic of websites. Even just to protect people from what you've just suggested.

Like with most things if people can't be responsible, they'll lose the very freedom they seem to champion.

Funny how people often get what they don't want.

What if someone did Assassinate Obama?

Shit would change.
 
The entire concept that most of these tweets and post could just be jokes is silly


There are racially charged jokes and there are pure hateful comments
 
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I was already having a great weekend, but this made it that much better...

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Not sure what the problem is here, folks. You can say whatever you like, and by the same token we can hold it against you. If the cockroaches scuttle when exposed to the light, am I supposed to feel sorry for them?
 
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Not sure what the problem is here, folks. You can say whatever you like, and by the same token we can hold it against you. If the cockroaches scuttle when exposed to the light, am I supposed to feel sorry for them?
yeah i'm having a hard time feeling sorry for these people.
 
All of GAF seemed to revel in the idea of the "creepshotters" who:

- Did nothing illegal
- Weren't revealing their own personal info

Being outted, fired, etc.

I know GAF isn't one entity.. but I find the general reaction to various things rather.. random.. often.. hypocritical.

But perhaps it's just completely different posters attracted to different threads. Still sort of interesting.

"OMG hunt Screenname22 down for taking pictures of butts!"

"OMG John Smith who identifies where he works and where he lives and purposefully posted something racist needs the protection of free speech!"
 
This spirit of lynching is extremely noxious, and it is absurd to me that many people not only do not see it, but instead applaud it. It is inherently wrong because, although it starts with a noble aim, the ultimate aim is to destroy the dignity of others while purporting to support human dignity in general, and that's why it is dishonorable and so noxious.

The noble aims of the lynching spirit.
 
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