I want to like Kraken, but I'm so bad with him. What was this guy doing to do well?Ultimo hombre said:We had a Kraken that solo'd mid against a silencer. He went onto dominate the game for us.
Slither's wards are stupid insane now. :lol I had a teammate who blocked off someone pursuing another teammate using the wards as a wall. It was awesome.Lone_Prodigy said:Slither is great: played a game yesterday where I got a Quad Kill and Bloodbath, then got called out by my teammates for KS'ing. Not my fault we team-fight in mid with toxin wards everywhere. :lol
Archie said:I am officially the worst HoN player at GAF.
What was it about?JRPereira said:Ah no worries. I'm probably the worst player on the staff, and I'm probably the worst on GAF too.
You guys check out the HoNCast stream with S2Lulu and S2Idejder earlier today?
Archie said:I am officially the worst HoN player at GAF.
watJoeMartin said:Anyone who thought old Electrician wasn't the 2nd most useless hero in the game is insane. He's still pretty situational as far as I'm concerned.
Aren't you the Scarab Lord just fp Pestilence and raepLukeSmith said:Nah, if I start playing with ya'all I'll easily be the worst.
hauton said:wat
Ganks like a boss
Tanks like a boss
Ridiculous solo mid (which nobody did for some reason)
Retarded early harass
Insane lane combos (Swift anyone?)
Hard counters Jeraziah, Hammerstorm, countless others
How is he useless in any way, shape or form?
Easily interrupted? As opposed to any other channeling spell that's not easily interrupted?JoeMartin said:1 easily interrupted grip and a situationally useful ultimate.
After that what did he do? Auto attack things with his amazing auto attack?
He made a good early lane partner and early ganker, but there was nothing he could do that Pollywog couldn't do better (who was/is rarely picked to begin with). And the "<hero> can tank because he can soak up a lot of damage!" argument is the most flawed thing ever. There's no such thing as human aggro. Your grip gets interrupted and then people just ignored you because you were Electrician. You're not a tank unless you represent a significant enough threat that people will actually bother attacking you. Which before the change Electrician never did.
I still have yet to hear any sound argument why he was useless.Won said:Sorry man, you can theorycraft as much you want, in the end he still was the most useless hero in the game.
Only original S2 hero that I wholeheartedly support. It's just a shame they had to turn him into another PEW PEW hero for no reason whatsoever.TheExodu5 said:Electrician is and has always been my favorite hero. He's a beast. He's got the best disable in the game.
hauton said:Easily blurfed? As opposed to any other channeling spell that's not easily hurfed?
In a 1v1 solo mid there's nobody around to blurf him.
In a 2v2 lane you
a) Pick on the blurf who has a hurf, as opposed to the blurf who doesn't hurf
b) Rely on your blurf to get take care of the other blurf
c) Hurf them into blurfing their disable and hurfing it on cd
d) Go hurfblurf another lane
In a teamfight the exact same burfblurf applies - unless you have a terrible team Electrician doesn't need to hurfblurf - hurfblurf their disables, wait for your blurf or straight up hurf the one most likely to hurf you off. Even if you do get hurfed off, it has such a low cd and relative manacost you can hurf it several times a teamfight.
As for being worse than Rhasta, the rest of this is so hurf blurfy it wouldn't even be comical to edit.
hauton said:I still have yet to hear any sound argument why he was useless.
And I don't buy that "well he's not a threat so he can't tank dur" crap at all. There's a million ways you can build him to be useful in teamfights. Outside of his purge and his ridiculous disable, he can build a ton of items that makes him a useful member of the team, and thus, an important target to shut down.
Shiva's
Nome's
Orchid
Mek
Guinsoo
Puzzlebox
Radiance
Demonic Breastplate
Barrier Idol
Any of those are welcome additions to a teamfight that can only hurt the opposition's chances.
hauton said:Only original S2 hero that I wholeheartedly support. It's just a shame they had to turn him into another PEW PEW hero for no reason whatsoever.
lol you're really reaching aren't you?JoeMartin said:Well check and mate.
Oh wait, I meant hurf and blurf. Imaginary scenarios are nice but things work out differently in practice. Old Electrician was a mediocre disable and a purge who could subsequently be ignored. Hence why he saw little use.
What a surprise you're talking out your ass.All of those are welcome additions on any hero, except that A) other heroes are inherently more useful than old electrician and B) old electrician was awful at farming, both creeps and hero kills - how do you propose to farm out endgame items in any decent amount of time when you're playing a hero that can't farm and frankly shouldn't be farming as the gold is better used on someone more, oh, useful?
Except he never needed it.What? The spirit of Electrician is very much intact, only now he does useful amounts of damage and his skills actually promote ganking rather than this imaginary super tank/aggro ability everyone seems to think he had.
Dina said:Bit too good, I'd say. Gust has a million and one uses on an already pretty good hero.
If it sheds any light I casually pub at 1650+ PSR, 0% em, kdr and adr at like 1.5 and 2.5 respectively.hobart said:hauton:
I don't think I need to rehash Joe's post (which carefully and thoroughly explains why Electrician was junk prior to the patch)... but in a nutshell... Electrician couldn't sufficiently do his job due to the ease in which other heroes could interrupt him.
You mentioning high end, hard to farm items, is understandable. Perhaps most of your gaming experience in HoN is in the -em realm. I don't know. I don't want to assume. But prior to the patch... it was extremely difficult to farm with a hero that had trouble last hitting with auto attacks... and who's primary last hitting spell (as you claim) requires you to get extremely close to creeps and opposing heroes (promoting heavy heavy harass). Although these high end items pair well with this hero... I think that most everyone on these boards will agree just how difficult it is to get those items when you cannot properly farm.
Grip... a wonderful skill, no doubt... was rendered basically useless against any competent HoN gamer. Not only can it be quickly interrupted... but many times after a finishing cast... Electrician found himself *in* more harm than prior to the gank attempt. This has been fixed!
I don't know how much you follow the competitive scene. And I certainly don't know if you are following the development of the game. S2 has a list of picks, deaths.... EVERYTHING. They follow the trends in the game very carefully. They recognized how little Electrician and Zephyr were being chosen and decided to rework them accordingly (maybe even a little TOO much). Thus far... the competitive scene has embraced the new Electrician... and he's finally become the ganking strength hero they envisioned from the beginning.
Shit... I think I rehashed exactly what Joe said. I'd give Joe a little more credit, hauton. He knows what he's talking about![]()
What's your hon name? These days I play as `_` because my mint has too many disconnections (and can't join any of the non leaver games)..but now I have a new router so I should be a-okrocK` said:mint,
your stats make you look godly. I'd like to play with you sometimes (tired of pubtards, but hey, farming harkons on puppet in under 22 minutes is fun too).
mint said:but now I have a new router so I should be a-ok![]()
Brettison said:Only gripe I have is for some reason whenever I quit out, and then relaunch the program my friend's list is always wiped.
Also I didn't notice as we both just quit out post match, but is there any sort of level progression system with power ups
MiniKelly said:Friend list is a known bug. Wait for next patch.
There are no outside persistent power ups like LoL. Just leaderboard ranking and stats.
mint said:Brettison, we actually have a GAF clan if you like to play with us. Skill levels of our members range from horribad to decent.
Lyphen said:Just think of it as a Steam Community group. You get a [GAF] tag added to your name, and you instantly join the GAF chat channel. And don't worry about sucking, I shelled out 30$ for this, I've played ~5 games, and I'm terrible.
J-Rod said:Do "/join clan neogaf" without the quotes. That will get you into the channel. Someone with the clan rights will add you (I think it's the users with the medal by their name?).
And yeah, don't worry about sucking. I get death threats pretty regularly in public games, but GAF has yet to tell me I should go kill myself.