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levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Belfast said:
How in the hell is safe sex more detrimental?

They like, expect you to call you just to let them talk about their day and shit.
 

White Man

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I watched my mom die of Lung Cancer at 49. It sounds much like White Man watching his father die, her cancer had spread into her bones and brain. I found out she had cancer a week to the day before she died. When they found out she had cancer, she smoked two more cigarettes, and never went home again.

This was over 8 years ago. I still smoke cigarettes. It's stupid, and I would recommend anyone here my story before starting. Here's hoping I quit before it's too late.

Guess I may as well spill the beans. It's been nearly a year and I should be able to talk about this now.

Last year, October 7th, doctors found a tumor on the back of my dad's right lung. They weren't sure if it was cancerous. They promptly (within several days) removed it, being aware of his smoking habit and such. During a follow-up a week or so later, it had grown back. Cancer was fairly obvious now, and the speed at which the tumor had regrown suggested the frightening possibility of metastasization.

And metastasize it did. During the week between the tumor removal and the check-up, it had spread to his bones, and potentially his brain. At this point, survival was an impossibility. It was all about making sure he had a comfortable death. If you ask me, that's also a certain impossibility. It was around this time that I remember walking past my dad's room at night. He was crying like a frustrated adolescent, and he just kept saying "I don't want to die." Those aren't very encouraging words to hear from your father. I've always hoped that living a full life would prepare one for death.

A few days later it was confirmed that the cancer had indeed spread to his brain. I asked my own neurologist (I'll get into why I was regularly seeing one of them later) what this meant, and he effectively said that I'd watch my father go insane over the course of a few weeks, or worse, a few days. My mom opted to try an experimental sort of radiation therapy, gamma knife, to try and prolong my father's life and sanity. The surgery was considered elective by insurance, since it's effectiveness (for this purpose) was unproven. It pretty much bankrupted my family, and killed any chance I had of returning to school with familial help.

The surgery was a bust, and did more harm than good. The procedure, which involved firing a hot radiation beam through my dad's brain was terrifying to my dad. The anticipation of getting those treatments definitely brought his mental downfall on faster.

Meanwhile, all this stress was causing me to have horribly migraine attacks, and I was having seizures, bad ones, on a weekly basis. I had to go into therapy myself. Being uninsured, this didn't help my families finances. My mom was about to collapse herself; only the thought of her being the only person able to take care of my dad kept her going.

Eventually, December came. December 2003 will always be the worst month of my life. My dad was stone crazy. I watched it myself. He went from zero to alzheimer's in the span of 2 weeks. He was convinced the meds my mom and I would give him were poison, and that we were trying to slow kill him for his money (he had none). He'd routinely (nightly) try to get out of his hospital bed (in the living room of our house -- we opted to let him die in the comfort of his on home) and escape the house. My mom and I, being the only 2 people in the house, had to alternate nights staying up until dawn to make sure he didn't get out. Some nights, I'd catch him crying in bed, saying he had to get home to see my mom. He didn't even know where he was. One night, he smashed up the living room with his cane. We couldn't stop him. At this point he weighed less than a hundred pounds, too.

The last day of his life, well, apparently he spent the morning talking to his sister, who'd been dead for about 10 years. Then he had a very lucid conversation with my mom. She wrote it down and I have a copy here on my computer. I'm not going to look it up because I'll bust up. Basically my dad asked if he was dying, and my mom had to tell him the truth. I'm busting up anyway. He never stopped smoking throughout this, maybe the saddest part of all.

Maybe later I'll continue this. I doubt anyone will even read this far. I hope at least somebody does.

Long story short -- Smokers, lung cancer by far isn't the worst thing that could happen to you.
 
Warhammer 40k said:
cancer will get us all sooner or later regardless.
Still, later rather than sooner. And without collateral damage.

jobber said:
The sun gives you cancer. Being alive gives you cancer, but I don't care. I rather die young than suffer when i'm in my 80s and have some lady changing me cause I poop'd myself.
Getting cancer or some other affliction wouldn't exactly be cutting out your bad years while leaving the good ones intact.
 

DonasaurusRex

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I've cut back big time, i used to smoke just for the sake of smoking , I personally blame DAOC which was so boring you had to have a secondary activity. But a few times noticing how short on breath i was when just walking up 3 flights of stairs, and how i nearly died if i ran up 3 flights of stairs made me realize im gimping myself. Basically one night my friend and I threw our smokes out my car window and never looked back. We are actively trying to quit and go days at a time without smoking. It was rough at first, especially the nights we drank and that made you crave nicotene SO bad but cant smoke what you dont buy right? I have still had a few smokes this month but the frequency is so low i think coupled with a good exercise regiment i can eliminate it completely. The good thing is when you get over that 3 day hump your pretty good to go.
 

White Man

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I live like 2500 miles away now. Distance has hardly made things any easier. My brother also died after a horrible battle with cancer last year.

My mom lives in the same house. I doubt I could even walk through that front door again. I dread the thought of visiting home. All I'd see would be places that I remembered being at with people that are dead. I worry about my mom, though. Never got along much with her, but she's all alone. I left a couple months after my dad died. She's visited me, and while the visit may have been the best time we've ever spent together, it also brought up a lot of concern for her. I'm trying my hardest to afford a visit to PA in January, but I really don't have the money. I wish I could find a better job just for this reason. I have nightmares about this, and I feel guilty about leaving so (relatively) soon after the events.
 

Slo

Member
White Man, I read it all and I don't know what to say. I'm very sorry for your father, and for the pain you and your mother must have felt watching those events unfold.
 

Shinobi

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DaCocoBrova said:
Sex is way more detrimental, but people won't ever stop doing that.

So is drinking for that matter.

:lol There's defintely some truth there...




borghe said:
becoming a grown up is the day you realize that no matter how old you are, you still don't know shit.

:lol That line cracked me up for some reason...




Belfast said:
How in the hell is safe sex more detrimental?

You can't qualify his statement for him. He simply said sex, and you're kidding yourself if you think there aren't many people out there who forego the "safe" part.





White Man said:
Guess I may as well spill the beans. It's been nearly a year and I should be able to talk about this now.

Last year, October 7th, doctors found a tumor on the back of my dad's right lung. They weren't sure if it was cancerous. They promptly (within several days) removed it, being aware of his smoking habit and such. During a follow-up a week or so later, it had grown back. Cancer was fairly obvious now, and the speed at which the tumor had regrown suggested the frightening possibility of metastasization.

And metastasize it did. During the week between the tumor removal and the check-up, it had spread to his bones, and potentially his brain. At this point, survival was an impossibility. It was all about making sure he had a comfortable death. If you ask me, that's also a certain impossibility. It was around this time that I remember walking past my dad's room at night. He was crying like a frustrated adolescent, and he just kept saying "I don't want to die." Those aren't very encouraging words to hear from your father. I've always hoped that living a full life would prepare one for death.

A few days later it was confirmed that the cancer had indeed spread to his brain. I asked my own neurologist (I'll get into why I was regularly seeing one of them later) what this meant, and he effectively said that I'd watch my father go insane over the course of a few weeks, or worse, a few days. My mom opted to try an experimental sort of radiation therapy, gamma knife, to try and prolong my father's life and sanity. The surgery was considered elective by insurance, since it's effectiveness (for this purpose) was unproven. It pretty much bankrupted my family, and killed any chance I had of returning to school with familial help.

The surgery was a bust, and did more harm than good. The procedure, which involved firing a hot radiation beam through my dad's brain was terrifying to my dad. The anticipation of getting those treatments definitely brought his mental downfall on faster.

Meanwhile, all this stress was causing me to have horribly migraine attacks, and I was having seizures, bad ones, on a weekly basis. I had to go into therapy myself. Being uninsured, this didn't help my families finances. My mom was about to collapse herself; only the thought of her being the only person able to take care of my dad kept her going.

Eventually, December came. December 2003 will always be the worst month of my life. My dad was stone crazy. I watched it myself. He went from zero to alzheimer's in the span of 2 weeks. He was convinced the meds my mom and I would give him were poison, and that we were trying to slow kill him for his money (he had none). He'd routinely (nightly) try to get out of his hospital bed (in the living room of our house -- we opted to let him die in the comfort of his on home) and escape the house. My mom and I, being the only 2 people in the house, had to alternate nights staying up until dawn to make sure he didn't get out. Some nights, I'd catch him crying in bed, saying he had to get home to see my mom. He didn't even know where he was. One night, he smashed up the living room with his cane. We couldn't stop him. At this point he weighed less than a hundred pounds, too.

The last day of his life, well, apparently he spent the morning talking to his sister, who'd been dead for about 10 years. Then he had a very lucid conversation with my mom. She wrote it down and I have a copy here on my computer. I'm not going to look it up because I'll bust up. Basically my dad asked if he was dying, and my mom had to tell him the truth. I'm busting up anyway. He never stopped smoking throughout this, maybe the saddest part of all.

Maybe later I'll continue this. I doubt anyone will even read this far. I hope at least somebody does.

Long story short -- Smokers, lung cancer by far isn't the worst thing that could happen to you.

Man...that was tough to read.
 
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