Hilarious or Awful?: What is your first reaction to this image?
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ChackanKun
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bdizzle said:
Isn't it the same thing? lol
bdizzle said:
I'm really starting to think this is a cultural thing. I assume most of you are American? Why is life treated like some sort of bizarre combination of a rap video/UFC fight?
"Bitches" deserve "beat downs", expect retaliation if "you get served," if you get "disrespected" then you have to retaliate... WTF??????
Alot of you guys sound like characters off the chappelle show skits "When keeping it real goes wrong"
A stupid drunk chick throws a drink in your face and you're response is to keep it real and almost crack her skull.
I guess some of you get a thrill about possibly going jail and being sued.
A stupid drunk chick throws a drink in your face and you're response is to keep it real and almost crack her skull.
I guess some of you get a thrill about possibly going jail and being sued.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This is why you *don't fuck with people you don't know.*
Dumb bitch obviously just assumed that everyone in the world will let her get away with being an asshole based solely on being female without considering that there are still plenty of places in the world where when a woman steps out of line she'll get punched in the mouth. Not saying that's right, but she had reason to assume that that guy (who is obviously foreign) *wasn't* going to punch her in the face.
I'm not saying that it's right to hit a girl, but if you replaced that image with another girl, and the other girl beat the unholy shit out that bitch, we would *all* think it was funny. Moral of the story: *don't fuck with people you don't know.*
Dumb bitch obviously just assumed that everyone in the world will let her get away with being an asshole based solely on being female without considering that there are still plenty of places in the world where when a woman steps out of line she'll get punched in the mouth. Not saying that's right, but she had reason to assume that that guy (who is obviously foreign) *wasn't* going to punch her in the face.
I'm not saying that it's right to hit a girl, but if you replaced that image with another girl, and the other girl beat the unholy shit out that bitch, we would *all* think it was funny. Moral of the story: *don't fuck with people you don't know.*
Jamesearlcash
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The problem with alot of women nowdays is that they don't act like women ! Seriously, there's a huge number of women that go out on the town and get slaughtered on pints of beer, fight with men & other women, shout and swear and generally act like a male hooligan.
It would've been frowned upon alot more say 40 years ago to hit a woman, but then it was more domestic abuse, women wouldn't really be in the situation where they would get jabbed. I think women have it great these days, They can seem nice, get pregnant, start acting like a skank, then split up with the guy, she keeps the house, the kids etc I've seen it happen alot.
It would've been frowned upon alot more say 40 years ago to hit a woman, but then it was more domestic abuse, women wouldn't really be in the situation where they would get jabbed. I think women have it great these days, They can seem nice, get pregnant, start acting like a skank, then split up with the guy, she keeps the house, the kids etc I've seen it happen alot.
My reaction? I didn't think it was funny but I wasn't appalled at what I saw. It's been said before, but she used poor judgment when she threw the drink and her hitting the floor was the outcome of that poor judgment.
Would I have retaliated that way? Probably not, but then again I can't imagine myself ever being in a situation where I'd need to consider it.
Would I have retaliated that way? Probably not, but then again I can't imagine myself ever being in a situation where I'd need to consider it.
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There's a reason why men don't fucking punch or kick women, I don't care what part of the planet you hail from. What she did was wrong, but what he did was even worse.Angry Grimace said:
She throws a drink (not the glass, mind you) at a man. He kicked her. Even using the "tooth for a tooth" logic, that's still nowhere near fair. Factor in the fact that he's a physically superior male, and then you have a serious problem.
Some of you people are clueless.
norinrad21
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YYZ said:
WTF?
norinrad21
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I'm quite surprise half of you guys think its alright to hit a woman just because she did something dumb. WTF?
bdizzle said:
The point is the consequence seemed a bit beyond what is warranted. Beer in face != head off of concrete imo.
It would be a bit different if she walked up and punched him.
Chamber said:
Here's the issue. While yes, maybe you can expect this to be the outcome, but that doesn't make it right.
Many here aren't arguing that this was unsurprising ... they're actually arguing that the response was warranted. Two different things.
If I were in the situation, I would have grabbed the nearest picher, dumped it on her, then bought a picher for whoever I had borrowed it from.
Had no picher been available, I would have dumped her ass in the pool. She made me wet, I'll make her wetter. Seems like a reasonable response.
So are you of the opinion it's never okay to hit a woman? I mean if you can't smack 'em around when they did something dumb, then when can you?norinrad21 said:
I think the real point is what angry grimace said. People are different. Just because stranger A isn't predisposed to violence doesn't mean stranger B isn't. Call some people's mother a dirty slut and some people are ready to fight. Other people, not so much. Easy way to not find out group A from group B is to not walk around calling people's mother a whore.Onix said:
Dali said:
And again, there's a different between not finding the result entirely surprising ... and believing it was right or warranted.
As I said, if I were in the situation, I would have grabbed the nearest picher, dumped it on her, then bought a picher for whoever I had borrowed it from. Had no picher been available, I would have dumped her ass in the pool. She made me wet, I'll make her wetter. Seems like a reasonable response.
If she was physically violent with me, then things would be different. I just don't see how getting beer in the face warrants violence that was sufficient to seriously injure her. Crap, though unlikely, she could have died ... over a beer in the face. Really?
CultureClearance
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Great men like Martin Luther King, Jesus and Gandhi taught me something about when somebody doesn't something, turn the other something something. But heck if I can recall what it is.
This thread reminds me of that Boondocks episode where MLK Jr comes back from the dead (or never died?) and how he essentially becomes obsolete thanks to the crappy culture we all live in now. How we as a human race use people like him as a pedestal but don't bother to follow in their footsteps. Not even a little bit. Man, what a classic episode.
This thread reminds me of that Boondocks episode where MLK Jr comes back from the dead (or never died?) and how he essentially becomes obsolete thanks to the crappy culture we all live in now. How we as a human race use people like him as a pedestal but don't bother to follow in their footsteps. Not even a little bit. Man, what a classic episode.
Then she would have started yelling and saying you had a little dick. You'd yell back something about the smell of her vagina. She'd have thrown something and hit you in the face. You'd have walked up and swept the leg. This series of events is pretty obvious and unavoidable after the pitcher. I think the guy, cognizant of this fact and hoping to create as little a scene as possible, simply advanced the exchange to its natural conclusion a bit ahead of schedule.Onix said:
Haha, are people in this thread literally neanderthals? You realize there are ways to respond, or even retaliate, that do not involve violence? For instance, getting her kicked out of the bar?
More importantly, whatever your fragile, machismo pride tells you, hitting another person is a criminal offense. Having a drink thrown in your face is not sufficient to claim self defense, and most likely not a mitigating factor at all. If you want to go around hitting people who disrespect you, get ready to pay a lot of money in fines, and spend a lot of time in jail.
As an aside, real masculinity comes from a place where people can't easily move you. Needing to constantly prove yourself physically just conveys incredible insecurity, and all you would do by escalating things to physical violence is to terrify all the girls around you. It certainly isn't impressive or charming.
Do you think Obama would punch out a girl who splashed a drink in his face, even without the publicity attached? No, because he knows he's a man, and his ego can't be invaded by some dumb drunk chick.
More importantly, whatever your fragile, machismo pride tells you, hitting another person is a criminal offense. Having a drink thrown in your face is not sufficient to claim self defense, and most likely not a mitigating factor at all. If you want to go around hitting people who disrespect you, get ready to pay a lot of money in fines, and spend a lot of time in jail.
As an aside, real masculinity comes from a place where people can't easily move you. Needing to constantly prove yourself physically just conveys incredible insecurity, and all you would do by escalating things to physical violence is to terrify all the girls around you. It certainly isn't impressive or charming.
Do you think Obama would punch out a girl who splashed a drink in his face, even without the publicity attached? No, because he knows he's a man, and his ego can't be invaded by some dumb drunk chick.
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Trident said:
This x 1 gazillion
Especially the part where you're conveying your instability and violent nature to the people (and girls) around you. How many women do you think would like to be with a guy who will explode at something like that? It makes them feel like they can't trust you and that they always have to be on their guard with you. It also communicates that you have a fragile ego and are easily hurt.
There are many different ways to assess yourself and 'defend' yourself in that situation. I would even go so far as to scream at the girl if I had to (not that that would be the best choice, but a hell of a lot better than making her fall on concrete). Maybe even moving towards her menacingly but not hurting or touching her would have been enough. The best would be to just laugh it off of course. In any case, he didn't do the right thing and shame on anyone socially ignorant enough to defend him.
No wonder you guys are lonely.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The "I don't care what part of the planet you hail from" is the clue that you have no frame of reference; You're basing that off of your own values and being righteously indignant, but that wasn't the point:Epic Tier 3 Engineer said:
That guy was not from whereever it is you are from. There are PLENTY of places in this world where if a woman disrespects a man, the man will beat her. She was extremely stupid to just assume that some random foreign guy wasn't going to harm her. I didn't say it was right or justified.
It's way too easy to sit behind your computer in a sober state of mind and say what you would have done in that situation.
Both parties in this situation were likely drunk so words like reasonable and rational got thrown out the window. Is it right? No, but I sincerely doubt any drunken guy who just got a beer to the face is going to "apologize and walk away" so to speak.
Both parties in this situation were likely drunk so words like reasonable and rational got thrown out the window. Is it right? No, but I sincerely doubt any drunken guy who just got a beer to the face is going to "apologize and walk away" so to speak.
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Frame of reference is all we have. With that logic, you could put yourself in the frame of reference of a rapist and see things from his point of you. Yes, behaviour like that is tolerated in some countries. Does that make it okay? No it does not. What surprises me most isn't that this morocan guy leg sweeped the girl, it's that half of the people in this thread seem to be taking his side. I dont think people defending him all come from one of those countries. You could say that she lacked judgment and was culturally insensitive when she spilled a drink on that foreign person, but you can just as easily make the case for that foreigner who was equally as culturally insensitive by attacking a woman in a western country. Attacking someone who is weaker and drunker, and who he provoked to begin with.Angry Grimace said:
RSTEIN said:
See when you piss someone off in the real world, shit like this tends to happen. Believe me I've been on both ends of it. The real world is not like the internet. In real life someone would have beat you up for half the stupid shit you've said in this thread alone. But then again if this was real life you'd prolly be huddled in a corner somewhere surfing gaf so you wouldn't have to worry about it.
The more I read this thread and think about the video. I'm still wondering what was going through his head at the time. I guess it's not really outside the realm of possibility, but I have a hard time imagining him thinking, "I'm going to kick her legs out from under her and her head will bounce off the concrete. That is the expected result" Maybe he figured she would have just fallen on her butt?
Still, even if he didn't mean it or never expected it to happen like it did, it doesn't excuse him or his actions. I don't know...heck, maybe he was expecting something worse to happen.
Still, even if he didn't mean it or never expected it to happen like it did, it doesn't excuse him or his actions. I don't know...heck, maybe he was expecting something worse to happen.
The only thing I imply there is that's laughable to talk about what you would have done while sitting behind your PC. Until you're in that situation you don't really know.Onix said:
"I would have dunked her in the pool! If I couldn't do that, I would dump a beer on her. If that failed, I would have done x or y or z."
Get real.
The guy was an idiot.
The girl was an idiot.
Both share the blame for what happened.
I'm not going to pick sides here. I honestly don't know what I would have done in that situation though I'd certainly like to think I wouldn't resort to violence. I sure as hell know my drunken ass wouldn't have apologized though. If anyone honestly thinks that a realistic possibility for others or themselves, I don't know what to say.
Ryck said:
Saying that "shit tends to happen" doesn't justify an action when you are the person doing it. It's only an inevitable consequence when you aren't the actor involved.
You people really need some better role models if you think being a successful, outgoing, well-liked person requires a propensity towards knee-jerk violence. Some people actually aren't harboring tons of pent up aggression. So when they go out in the world and interact with people, they don't want to hit others! It's wild stuff.
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"Since I have a tiny, tiny, microscopic dick... I'd better beat on that woman ASAP!"Dali said:
Come on.
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