Cymbal Head
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True enough. Robby Mook should never work again.
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Hillary Clinton is ready to join the resistance
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True enough. Robby Mook should never work again.
GoldenEye 007
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If only there were some actual moves made back in March where Bernie ignored the south.
Astral Dog
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Poor Hillary. She has burned herself so much on GAF 
excelsiorlef
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You're not going to like one of the reasons why
Poor Hillary. She has burned herself so much on GAF
She always did prefer Gamefaqs
2Smashed4U
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I didn't say that at all. I said she made a direct appeal to them like she should have, and it didn't matter to them.
😂
What can I say? Any old, rich white lady who carries hot sauce in her purse is just like my abuela back home. 🤷🏽*♂️
Massachusetts wouldn't matter anyways. It's guaranteed to go blue. Bernie would've won over the the Rust Belt.
perfectchaos007
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YAAASSSS KWEEEEEN. Clinton/Stein 2020
TestOfTide
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Both in 2008 and 2012, democrats won a shitload of seats.
This narrative that Obama caused everything bad is ridiculous.
Meanwhile how are the far left parties doing across the western world? Oh right they are losing like always.
My point wasn't about MA. My point was about the fact that suburban voters in general tend to be a lot more moderate and more likely to be turned off by Bernie types.
2Smashed4U
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You're right. The Democratic Party should all become communists, it's the only way.
I think she's legitimately going to end up being a fairly important voice in the party in a number of years.
Pancake tweets aside.
One day, anyway.
Rentahamster
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Maybe not for you. I for one, love saucy dicks.
A progressive/socialist party would be pretty nice.
None of this neoliberal crap designed to favor their donors.
I mean that's essentially what I'm saying? Have you read my posts in this thread?
NoblesseOblige
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I dunno. Sounds about right to me!
NOLA_Gaffer
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Man I had no idea everyone hated Hillary Clinton so much.
excelsiorlef
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There ain't enough of you to win... you're gonna have to work with non socialists... you'll probably even be outnumbered by non socialists.
And you're totally right, as I've said several times in this thread. On the other hand, I think people who are trying to discount all leftists and all issues they might have are also being foolish and deserve to be called out on it.
Arrogant Bastard
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It would sure as shit make sure that Republicans had full control over everything though. So there is that.
Wait, this argument is bad.
People who are leftists but can't be persuaded to vote for the party that is further left deserve special condemnation! They are bad at doing democracy! The fact that they're unpersuadable is itself a criticism, not a badge of honor.
She had one chance to save the country from fascism and she blew it.
Still mad Kaine didn't resign too, frankly.
This for me is the most ridiculous post of the thread. How could you not know lol.
Wow didn't know her fanclub is as strong as ever on GAF still. Apologies if I triggered any of you.
GAF was one of her sites biggest redirectors.
NoblesseOblige
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What serious issues are involved in taking money to fund campaigns to resist Trump? Other than some people having a hate boner for the name Clinton.
TestOfTide
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No we aren't trying to discount ALL leftists.
Just the ones that clearly didn't read the OP and just came by to make drive by shitposts about how "Hillary needs to go away".
GoldenEye 007
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You sound like a conservative. And shockingly the purity tests applied to Democrats tend to favor outcomes of the GOP.
Maybe more clarity is required as there are numbskulls that still don't understand, case in point below.
Social democrats aren't socialists. And you could wrangle the independents and some of the Dems.
Just don't call yourself socialists. Call yourself the Labor Party.
I've posted several times in this thread what people probably think they are. Other people have also posted them, and I think you know what they are.
I personally don't agree, the good probably outweighs the harm. I've also said that throughout this thread.
Arrogant Bastard
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So much shit in one post.
eBay Huckster
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Apologies for any good post you've ever made (if any), because this one's some GameFAQs-level shit.
She doesn't need to have "a fanclub" for some of the shit getting posted in here to be objectively self-defeating.
And I've acknowledged posts like that were bad throughout this thread. What more would you like me to do?
Bonen no Max'd
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I'd worry about derailing but this thread is a cesspool anyways so I want to ask this
what do you think Chelsea offers to warrant such a position other than being the daughter of two other important party members
NoblesseOblige
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Honestly seems more like the name Clinton triggered you.
Psychoward
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I'll agree with that.
And then have a split left while right slanted candidates win big everywhere?
Money, connections, respect. You name it.
The people complaining and looking for their True Scottsman can fuck off. They're sitting on their butts, refusing to do actual work toward electing progressives candidates. Criticizing the work of people that are trying to get enough Democrats elect so that policy, not grandstanding, can actually be passed.
People are pretty dumb mistaking a friend for an enemy. Purity is so awesome.
minor effort
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Who the hell is still in her "fan club" enough to want her to be the figurehead of the party, post-election? Who is actually promoting her as a future presidential candidate? I feel like you're arguing against a type of Hillary Clinton supporter that doesn't exist on this forum.
Some took exception with the sort of base attacks that she should be punished and shamed throughout history for her loss. That's not really the work of cultists.
I'm completely over Hillary Clinton as a candidate and political leader and I can still find some attacks on her beyond the pale.
What issues? There aren't any being spoken about outside of hoping she doesn't fuck around with the cash box. The rest is just bullshit.
And lol? We were the sameish rank at redirecting to Bernie's site as well. It had to do with how links are treated on gaf and the sites interaction more than anything I think. But really I was a paid shill the whole time.
People absolutely are essentially discounting all leftists or people that might have a problem with Hilary. It's not everyone, but people are doing it and its fairly common in this thread, GAF in general, and to a lesser extent the Dems in the rest of the country.
TheOfficeMut
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Since this thread has turned to shit, I say let's talk about pineapple pizza. Who loves it as much as I do?
And also let's not suggest that talking about pineapple pizza is just as bad, because it isn't. Don't you dare!
And also let's not suggest that talking about pineapple pizza is just as bad, because it isn't. Don't you dare!
I'm sure it will be better for her in the future (like with Al Gore) but she's just got to ride this one out for now. Keep doing good things like this and maybe eventually things will look better for her again in the future.
M0nochromatic
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That's a great question, ask Eatinolives.
excelsiorlef
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Any third party will need to supplant a previous party and that'll take several election cycles wherein neither the new or old party mounts much of a fight. So by the time you have your Labor Party... You probably have a 9-0 Super Conservative Supreme Court and possibly no country at all.
And you said you wanted a socialist party now you are claiming something else...
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