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Hitman: Absolution |OT| Police do not suspect Blood Money is involved.
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Well my name is Jimmy, and I'm quite unrustled. I'm sorry we disagree.
Blood Money would have shown the cutscene in realtime by splitting the screen and would not have taken control away from the player. Also 47 wouldn't have fist-QTE-fighted himself out. I mean what is this? Uncharted 3?
I don't recall the PCG review mentioning any QTEs and that's currently the review with the worst score. I really can't believe it.
Nothing says "badass" quite like constant pauses in the action. QTEs are an awful mechanic.
I wish you would watch the other videos so you can understand that I'm trying to tell you that most of the missions are like this.
Dyni Crippler
Member
You see, considering the disguise system is horrendous from what we've seen and that the multiple ways you mention are actually (always from what we've seen and heard) pretty obvious "A or B" paths, I think there are reasons to be pessimistic.
Hmm your right about the cutscene bit, it was better before.
But I like variety in my games, I'm sure the QTE's are a rare part of the game, so why not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxlhPMCQgo#t=8s
It proves my point about the waterness of this game. About the "H2O". About how this game is everything that a land-lover would fear. This is not a game about platforming. This is a game about swimming.
Dyni Crippler
Member
Every melee fight, might it be disarming an enemy or the stuff in the video, is a QTE.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
Yep.
ezekielpacman
Member
But the paths in these games have always been A or B (or C). Blood Money has two main entry points in You Better Watch Out... is that now linear? Same with Til Death Do Us Part, two main entry points.
We seem to be watching footage of someone do something one way and concluding that is the ONLY way, which is nuts.
Dyni Crippler
Member
No, you don't get it. I'm not talking about entry points alone - in Absolution there are entire levels like that. In BM there were three-four ways in the areas, but then you were free to act. Here there are sandbox levels (which look crappy because of the disguise system) and "linear" levels (which look crappy because of the limited choice of movement).
rosaceadude2112
Member
If a few years ago, you told me the next Hitman game would let me get into a huge bar brawl I'd be excited. That looks painfully boring though.
Dick Justice
Banned
No, 47 would've taken enemies out with a poorly-animated headbutt and one-two punch.
Hitman games have largely been A to B back to A
The fact that something like this is in the game is disappointing. I honestly think the root of all these problems is the story/location. I get that they're trying to make 47 appealing to a bigger crowd by making him look like a badass, but this is ridiculous. Everything I've seen so far from leaked gameplay just doesn't fit well with the idea of what Hitman is. At this point Uncharted is better at being a Hitman game than Hitman. With talks about there being another Hitman game, hopefully that game can start off as this one never existed..
Dyni Crippler
Member
Yes, but even Uncharted (a shooter) has an actual melee system. Since it looks like QTEs are fairly present, you might as well take the effort of actually making melee fights decent.
I heard some say of the DE:HR devs taking on the next Hitman game. Could be interesting to get a fresh take. Then remembered that same studio was lsated to make Thi4f. One studio could very well hold the future of open stealth gaming, and all memories of it, in their hands. A bit frightening.
But hey, I loved Human Revolution.
But hey, I loved Human Revolution.
keltickennedy
Member
No spoilers contained? There is a huge awesome easter egg in the video that fans of IO should stay away from.
Also, that sequence doesn't have to happen in the game. That is just one way to get to the objective by causing a detraction.
I cannot believe that after hearing about it in the press for a year that Square-Enix was going to squeeze out a turd, reading articles about the density and corn count of said turd, watching big budget trailers showing the turd bombastically fall out of the anus, and then watching youtube videos of this turd splatter onto your bowl, that some of you guys are still trying to convince yourself that it's ice cream.
But who am I to say it's poop? I haven't eaten it yet.
All of the jimmies have been rustled in this thread. Except me. Still not rustled. I'm with ya, buddy.
Messofanego
Banned
With all this arguing, I hope we get to 20 pages by the game's release date!
More judging of games by videos, more!
More judging of games by videos, more!
ezekielpacman
Member
Not sure an OT2 is worthwhile if all it contains is vitriol ;-)
Ravensmash
Member
Because we've also seen fantastic nuggets (lol) of gameplay that are much more reminiscent of previous games.
The Wizard
Member
I think I'll stay out of this thread until the game is actually out next week, too much guessing and speculation about the game's quality at the moment. If I had to guess, I predict it will be a fun game that won't live up to the greatness of Blood Money. And maybe that's okay.
rosaceadude2112
Member
Has anyone talked about the part where
47 gets framed for murder? lol
VibratingDonkey
Member
No that's dumb. Even if there are only six proper Hitman missions and they're partially compromised by one dumb design choice or another, it'll still be the best Hitman game since Blood Money. Sad but true. And I'll take what Hitman I can get.
LeadenStride
Member
I think I'll join you. Especially now that people do nothing but try to analyse the game based on youtube videos. There's so much you can't see or try for yourself that all of this is pretty pointless.
Hahahaha
Now I get it. They designed a Hitman parody.
Oh man, I guess I could just download all the footage and watch it later. This is so incredibly bad.
AI:
whaaat? A fire extinguisher? turns and 47 "sneaks" by
Dyni Crippler
Member
How so? It looks like a pretty mediocre game by itself.
Really, I'm curious. Not trying to troll - would like to know what's good about it.
I think the point of contention and what separates the mad from the hopeful is the willingness to forgive what were sure to be inevitable compromises in the name of modern game design and the desire for a larger audience. With as big a budget as games have these days, there really can't be niche titles that do just ok sales wise and fare better critically, like the older Hitman games. Games have to make money these days, and a lot of it. And when next gen comes around, it's only going to get worse.
It looks pretty fun, still. At least to me. Apparently to a few others, too.
ezekielpacman
Member
Stop being reasonable. FIRE EXTINGUISHER.
"Oh shit, not again!" lol what.. you're used to having
fire extinguishers thrown at you?
Dyni Crippler
Member
If you ask me, it doesn't. As I pointed out, the disguise system relying on a bar basically throws you back to the trial-and-error the series finally got past. Plus, dumb AI, linear levels (and literally linear, I mean) and dumb choices (QTEs everywhere) are making it look really, really dull.
I never claimed my criticisms to be well-backed, but geez, man, a bit of consideration here.
Is.......that a Kane cameo? weird.
Games not looking all that great to be honest think this will have to be a rent.
I somehow have not fallen over, nor do I have broken bones.
Not going to lie, that part did make me laugh. Classic stupid Hitman humor.
Apologies. You seem to be one of the more level-headed posters in this thread.
MMaRsu
Member
So let's just make games like all other games
Shit is getting fucking boring with the QTE's, and all generic bullshit found in games these days. Darksiders II was hell in this regard..go here and collect three of these..all the damn time.
Come up with some fun and smart gameplay, damn.
And why cant we criticize the game based on videos? Because you can tell so damn much already. The story is f'n stupid, the fact that they even tried annoys the shit out of me. Hitman didn't need a personal story, he already had one. He is an emotionless clone who works for an international Hit agency.
That's part of it, but a bigger divide is the inferences people are drawing from limited information. If it's as bad as "the mad" say, I'll join their ranks instantly.
SJRB
Gold Member
How does the guard NOT see him when he's in front of that bench?