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Hobbit was 'not a diseased human'

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Jeffahn

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The famous skeleton from Indonesia nicknamed the "Hobbit" does not belong to a modern human pygmy with a brain disease, as some scientists argue.

That is one of the main outcomes of a detailed examination of the creature's braincase, published in Science.

The authors say their study of the Hobbit's brain supports the idea it is a new, dwarf species of human.

However, others contend the report does little to quash their theory it was actually a small, diseased person.

The remains of the small hominid from the Indonesian island of Flores were unveiled last year to worldwide acclaim.

The 18,000-year-old bones were unearthed at a site called Liang Bua, one of numerous limestone caves on Flores, and were designated LB1 and assigned to a human species new to science: Homo floresiensis.


In our opinion, LB1 is not in any way, shape or form, a true microcephalic
Dean Falk, Florida State University
But the skeleton of this tiny female with a brain no larger than a chimpanzee's soon became mired in controversy.

Several prominent researchers - including the Indonesian palaeoanthropologist Teuku Jacob - argued that the remains were really those of a modern human (Homo sapiens), probably a pygmy with the brain defect known as microcephaly.

Microcephaly is a pathological condition characterised by an abnormally small head and brain and usually associated with mental difficulties.

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I wonder if in a million years future scientists will confuse midgets and dwarfs of today as different species of human.
 

Saturnman

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They can do it on Neanderthal bones and they're just as old, and often older.

We're not talking about mapping the entire genone here anyway.
 

Takuan

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We were just discussing this in class the other day. The evidence against it is weak, because in microcephalic individuals there's an obvious reduction in the cranium, which isn't there in the fossils. Also, microcephalic individuals are quite mentally challenged, usually have other severe health problems and short life spans. The fossil evidence from the area shows relatively complex behaviour (compared to other species living at the time) and it's probable that they had long lifespans. Also, microcephalic individuals exhibit microdonty (really small teeth), while none of the fossils retrieved do. So these were likely just small, regularly-proportioned people.

The species in question is Homo floresiensis, and my professor said to google it for a wealth of archaeological/anthropological info.
 

way more

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^^

Apparently these guys hunted, made fires, and created many tools. The big controversy was that it was thought to be impossible for such a small brained creature to be capable of abstract reasoning. I guess they checked plaster molds of the skull and found intricate patterns in the brain resembling a modern human. The wierdest thing I learned from this is that your brain actually leaves imprints withen your skull as you grow.

Was it really a theory that they were just a bunch of microcephalics? And how come you never see them around nowadays? I guess because we don't make fun of them anymore.
 

Hitokage

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I wonder if in a million years future scientists will confuse midgets and dwarfs of today as different species of human.
No, because even though their skeletal stature may be smaller than the average human, they will still carry many many distinct traits that homo sapien skeletons have.

Was it really a theory that they were just a bunch of microcephalics? And how come you never see them around nowadays? I guess because we don't make fun of them anymore.
Now, there may have been some legitimate complaints, but the kind of people I see being quick to criticize are the kind that won't believe there were any different species in the homo line to begin with.
 
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