Groundbreaking Findings on the Giza Pyramid Complex Could Re-Write Human History

The term is extra terrestrial ie: Extra Terra. Check out Vibes of Cosmos.

John Levi & Lucius Aurelian in regards to our (by design) manufactured history and by extension our memory loss and reprogrammed psyche.
 
Peer reviewed by whom? Failed from the start sadly. Other wise hard agree.

Maybe when that nefarious (not all to be sincere) academic closed reasoning and carefully cherrypicking of these well paid "experts" that are in control of these LOL "investigations" could take a back seat, which means ykwyk, we can get some immense investigation going that'll ofc has to be cross referenced, and even then we'll most likely end up with different hypothesis regarding the multiple facets that make not only the Piramids in Gaza but all over the world still a mystery. Wait doesn't the Vatican holds miles of ....
I'm 100% fine with it being a brutal and difficult proof. It should be one in fact. This shouldn't just be accepted, it should debated, like anything.

The only real way to avoid this would be to actually dig it up and I would 100% be against that.

As I said, incredible claims require incredible proof and this doesn't reach that threshold. A difficult peer review will serve to strengthen the claim in the long run.
 
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Quick examples

That idiot is saying there is a 2Km structure bellow the pyramids. Not 20m.
 
I find it really strange how aggressively some people resist ideas put forward by non-mainstream historians and theorists.

Because these people are conmen and grifters taking advantage of gullible fools or might be gullible fools themselves. Like, have you ever wondered why Graham Hancock hasn't used some of his personal fortune to finance an expedition? That's how you know he's a grifter - the mormons actually put their money where their mouth is and financed multiple expeditions to South America to try to find evidence of the stories in the Book of Mormon. They take advantage of the fact people aren't experts so they exploit these gaps in knowledge: as an example, you know these idiots claiming the perfectly grooved holes in Egyptian stone looked like modern electric tools? plausible right? But if you dig archeologists actually characterised these groves and compared them against modern tools and found substantial differences in depth, distance between groves, timing etc.... they started doing experiments and they found a match: manual drilling using a wet slurry of olive oil and an abrasive (check https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/ancient-egyptian-stone-drilling/ ).

As for the topic of the thread, they were supposed to host a press conference the 15th of march, then the 16th, then the 20th.... and we still waiting.
 
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Thing is it can never be proven because the only way to prove it is by digging to it and the Egyptian government ain't going to let anyone start digging a big hole next to a pyramid to find out.
You can use a pig and coiled tubing units to collect seismic readings with a crap ton of down hole data without the need of digging a "big hole".

Clearly you are missing the fact that you will just punch through the other side of the earth if you do that...its a flat disc so none of this is true (/s).
 
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This guy is deep into conspiracy theories, UFOs, spirituality non-sense and the like.
He is not a scientist and is very far from being a reliable source.
Seems like he is the kind of guy that makes stuff up to sell his youtube channel and twitter.
I've been lurking on some ufo subreddits and boy oh boy is ufoism becoming more and more a new age religion.
 
But why are people so quick to dismiss him?
All these "Ancient civilization" folks use wierd language and don't sound like professional scientists. Graham Hancock is the worst, he'll take a since data point and then spin it off into an entire "lost knowledge of an advanced civilization with a forgotten legacy".

I think our understanding of the sophistication of pre-history is very under developed and spotty at best. Buuuuuuuuut its not like there are any convincing relics from more advanced societies (by advanced, groups with a writing system, pottery, metal working) that so any indication of pre-dating or being superceded by what we DO see....primitive stone tools, fiber and animal product based technology, rudimentary stone working, etc.

Consider what we see today. Artifacts and structures from the roman and greek era still exist, their materials may be recycled but were not all destroyed, and coins, tools, and writings are quite abundant. If there were roman or greek tech level societies before, we would see their roads, tools, and culture perpetuated in some fashion. Even something like the supervolcano that reduced humanity to 2000 breeding pairs (80k years ago) wouldn't wipe out every stone structure, brass or bronze tool, mine, road, or whatever.

I think the pyramids are older than we think, or at least the techniques to make them. Sphinx is as well. But I think we understimate what humans can accomplish when it is a singular 'national' goal and all their labor is applied to the task.
 
Nah YOU feel insulted.

I merely gave non invasive/pressured resources for information.

I've never claimed to have information/claims of evidence.

Seems you're triggered AF and I feel very VERY sorry for you.

You can always PM when you get triggered/upset

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Nah YOU feel insulted.

I merely gave non invasive/pressured resources for information.

I've never claimed to have information/claims of evidence.

Seems you're triggered AF and I feel very VERY sorry for you.

You can always PM when you get triggered/upset

winjer winjer

Dude, you have issues.
You act like everyone here insulted you for not believing in this non-sense, you insulted several people here you you, and now you try to play it as if you are the reasonable, level headed one.
And of course, when someone asks you for evidence for such claims, you answer with more insults.
 
Dude, you have issues.
You act like everyone here insulted you for not believing in this non-sense, you insulted several people here you you, and now you try to play it as if you are the reasonable, level headed one.
And of course, when someone asks you for evidence for such claims, you answer with more insults.

Nice gaslighting ya npc
 
All these "Ancient civilization" folks use wierd language and don't sound like professional scientists. Graham Hancock is the worst, he'll take a since data point and then spin it off into an entire "lost knowledge of an advanced civilization with a forgotten legacy".
Yeah I was just messing around lol
 
Because these people are conmen and grifters taking advantage of gullible fools or might be gullible fools themselves. Like, have you ever wondered why Graham Hancock hasn't used some of his personal fortune to finance an expedition? That's how you know he's a grifter - the mormons actually put their money where their mouth is and financed multiple expeditions to South America to try to find evidence of the stories in the Book of Mormon.

So your argument is the Mormons are more credible because they used their church organization to fund expeditions?

Sorry, but are you being serious? All you've shown me in your opening argument is some sort of animus against Graham Hancock and a lack of critical thinking in your rhetoric.

They take advantage of the fact people aren't experts so they exploit these gaps in knowledge: as an example, you know these idiots claiming the perfectly grooved holes in Egyptian stone looked like modern electric tools? plausible right? But if you dig archeologists actually characterised these groves and compared them against modern tools and found substantial differences in depth, distance between groves, timing etc.... they started doing experiments and they found a match: manual drilling using a wet slurry of olive oil and an abrasive (check https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/ancient-egyptian-stone-drilling/ ).

Who's being taken advantage of, and how exactly?
Its irrelevant to me because I live in the 21st Century and this whole subject is just a talking point. Its going to have no impact on me one way or the other.

Also, why should I take archaeology to be any more scientifically credible than say, gender studies? The entire discipline was started by colonialist amateur adventurers and hobbyists after all. Just because its been around long-enough to have a patina of academic authority does not lead me to conclude that their perspective is invariably and absolutely correct. Especially when new earthworks are continually being found using new techniques like ground penetrating radar.

As I noted the need of academics and academic institutions to dogmatically protect their eminence is an undeniable phenomenon that needs to be factored in at all times.

As for the topic of the thread, they were supposed to host a press conference the 15th of march, then the 16th, then the 20th.... and we still waiting.

Who's "we" in this case?

Look, this shit is like Ufology. Its fringe stuff. That you seem so furiously attached to the orthodoxy that any dissident opinion is disregarded as a "grift" just makes me question what exactly are you afraid of the consequences being. Its irrational.
 
any dissident opinion is disregarded as a "grift" just makes me question what exactly are you afraid of the consequences being

Dissident opinion without solid evidence = grift
Dissident opinion with solid evidence = new orthodoxy

That's being rational. Have you read their 2022 paper on another pyramid? Because I have: they essentially claim to have found a new method to reanalyse data and get additional detail, but they themselves admit it's just theoretical and only in-situ findings can confirm its validity. Given that we have muon tomography of the great pyramid and only one new void has been found, one wonders why so far they've chosen to ignore it to see if their data matches it. Here's a video of the chamber they found:
 
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Dude, you have issues.
You act like everyone here insulted you for not believing in this non-sense, you insulted several people here you you, and now you try to play it as if you are the reasonable, level headed one.
And of course, when someone asks you for evidence for such claims, you answer with more insults.
I'm not sure people don't believe it. They just want some solid proof. There is a difference. We certainly dont have that here either lol, at least yet.

Is real? Almost certainly not, but I think people need to come forward with an open, but very sceptical, mind.

It's on these folks to justify their claims, not for others to believe them. I'd personally like a little bit of mystery in our history but I'm not going to just believe in it because some one says so.

Except for Bigfoot, he's legit.

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I am so fed up with theese sort of sensationalists.

Buy their new book for 50 bucks and be done with it, it's regurgitated nonsense, move on.
 
There's still a shit ton we don't know about ancient civilisations, we think we know everything cause we have the internet now but we are still making new discoveries all the time.

I say we take a bulldozer to those pyramids and find out once and for all.
 
I watched that guy's 6-minute video on Twitter last night. He briefly showed some sort of red/green/blue image that I think was radar(?), but didn't go into how it was calculated/captured, and how that translated into the CG model of 2km-deep structures.

I mean, I know I'm biased in wanting to believe everything he says is true--get some real-life magic up in this bitch--but I'm not convinced at all (yet).
 
I am so fed up with theese sort of sensationalists.

Buy their new book for 50 bucks and be done with it, it's regurgitated nonsense, move on.
You'd have to be a real, braindead NPC to believe this nonsense.

People who fap over this are the same people who believe the Earth is flat and/or dinosaurs are fake.
 
I find it really strange how aggressively some people resist ideas put forward by non-mainstream historians and theorists.

I mean, why not entertain some of the contentions? When there absolutely is evidence and artifacts out there that does not conform with the standard picture of history and human civilization.

Despite what is commonly stated, science has always been entwined with politics. Soft-sciences especially so as they are more interpretive, so the idea of the "purity" of the academy has always been more of an aspiration than an actual reality. And the obvious consequence of that is that maintaining the absolute dominance of a certain canonical view is frequently extremely valuable both reputationally and economically for its champions.

I think seeing the orthodoxy challenged by dissidents is healthy and absolutely necessary.
This is nonsense IMO. Science is about endlessly testing itself, and that is exactly what happens. There are thousands of organizations all over the entire world doing various studies, there is no one set of "politics" controlling anyone.

Can individuals or even large-ish groups get stubborn and not want to move away from established "beliefs"? Sure... but that's absolutely constantly being challenged by other scientists, endlessly.

Science is a method for trying to form understandings of the world that INCLUDES inside of it the idea of challenging each other.

These crackpots just outright lie more often than not.
 
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