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HomePod Announced (Siri Speaker) Sonos meets Amazon Echo, $349

entremet

Member
Have they commented on the it being humidity proof? Love that about the Play1s from Sonos. Shower music is a game changer.
 

MercuryLS3

Junior Member
If the Siri improvements are legit, then I would be interested. Not at $350 though, I'll wait for a price drop or buy it used.
 

888

Member
As someone who has two Google homes for less than one of these..i don't get Apple at times. Nothing about the Homepod sounds attractive to me.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Will be there day 1. Looks like a better-than-Sonos-sonos Play:1 and I bought 3 of those at $349.

uhhh you bought 3 Sonos Play 1s at 349 each? You got ripped off. Play 1's are 199 and Sonos is currently running a sale on them for 50 bucks off two of them.
 

btrboyev

Member
Couple of things to all the bashers in here.

1. This will have the new Siri features built in (machine learning, natural language, etc). So no, it shouldn't just give you bing search results.

2. The speaker actually looks to be doing some cool spatial stuff, automatically adjusting audio to fill the room properly based on the room it's in.

Now yes, we don't know how good it sounds, and how well these features work. But, it's definitely doing more than an Echo device does in terms of sound, so doing an direct comparison isn't really fair yet.

We'll see if these features are actually work as advertised and if the price is justified or not.

You are only going to do so much with a speaker that small, so the spacial stuff is just wasteful tech to me. If I want music to cover a room, I'm using way better speakers.
 

giga

Member
You are only going to do so much with a speaker that small, so the spacial stuff is just wasteful tech to me. If I want music to cover a room, I'm using way better speakers.

Not really true for most people. A Play 1 can cover a lot of space while still sounding great. Far better than your average BT speaker and not even in the same league as the Echo and Home.
 
The price seems really high compared to the Amazon Echo and the Google Home. I suppose if the speaker proves to be exceptionally good it may justify the higher price tag, but even still I'm worried about the quality of Siri compared to Alexa and Google Assistant. Also, I didn't get to watch the presentation and the product page doesn't say anything about it, but I would have to question third-party music support if you don't want to use Apple Music and if that works just as well.
 

SourBear

Banned
lol some people in the keynote thread were saying RIP Sonos.

just moronic...

I'm not saying rip sonos. But..

I have been in the market for a multi-room speaker system for ages now. Was going to pull the trigger on Sonos last year when they added the iTunes Music support but decided to wait.

Well, wait no longer.. and I'm not buying a sonos. I'm buying this instead.
 
Seems like a pretty expensive cost to beta test their new speaker and Siri.

If the speaker is top quality and Siri is actually competitive with Google's assistant, then it's only marginally overpriced. But until Apple comes anywhere close to actually proving these innovations exist in a polished fashion, it seems like an insane bet. Doesn't help that I really don't like the aesthetics.
 

Meier

Member
$349... holy shit. Them motherfuckers crazy.

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shira

Member
I don't know about the price and initial availability is a bit weird (Just 3 countries? Really Apple?) but I like the name, feature set and the way it looks.

Maybe they don't understand Canadian accents, only 'Murican, Australian and Jolly Olde English
 

giga

Member
My play 5 is by far the best sounding speaker I've heard in its price range. I'm no hardcore audiophile but it was better than the other options.
It is. And most people won't understand that and will just say why didn't you just get an Echo for cheaper and more capability.
 
The thing is you really need a pair for stereo imaging. Uh it better be better then a pair of Sonos Play 1s for me to even think aboit getting a pair
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Why do people pay hundreds for sonos? It's a thing.
1. Convenience
1a. ease of use - even my wife can use them
1b. ease of setup
2. reliability - its far more reliable than apple air play
3. the plethora of music services available to it. I would be surprised if Apple has nearly as many as sonos does
4. and certainly not the least, they sound, really, really good. You would have to have stereo, amp and dedicated speakers (all of which i have) which could total you easily in excess of 1k to really beat the sound of these things.

I am not full blown audio-phile, where i need power conditioning surge protectors and 100% lossless audio. But i appreciate quality sound, and they sound pretty dang great for the money.

Ooo, good to know. Know how long the sale lasts?

June 18th. You can also get 100 off the sub, if your in the market for one.

http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/2-room-music-system.html
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
June 18th. You can also get 100 off the sub, if your in the market for one.

http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/2-room-music-system.html

Sweet, thanks for the info.

I really want some SONOS because friends have brought them over for parties before and it is so simple to move them around everywhere we need music, inside, outside, downstairs, on the roof, etc.

Lol $350. I'm sure people will buy it, but seriously that has to be like a 1000% markup.

$35 to manufacture this thing?
 

giga

Member
FT impressions say it's better than the Play 3: http://blogs.ft.com/the-world/liveb...desktop=true#d1c44adfc6033ee1575ec845ad89aadb

I just had a brief chance to hear Apple's new HomePod alongside a Sonos Play:3 and an Amazon Echo.

On sound quality alone, Apple's new speaker is in a different league to the Echo - a far better sound with crisper vocals and deeper base than Amazon's tubular rival. But then, the Echo is almost half the price of the $350 HomePod. (I wasn't able to try out Siri integration, just hear some music.)

Compared to the Sonos Play:3, which costs a little less than the HomePod at $300, Apple's device was again the superior device. I suspect, however, that a better comparator would be the next Sonos model up, the $500 Play:5 - more testing will be needed on that. Either way, Apple's main advantage here is 360-degree sound, which means listening to music is a richer experience from anywhere in the room compared with the more directional sound of the Sonos.

I also had a chance at WWDC to hear a combination of two HomePods together, which packs quite a punch. Even with a single speaker, it's clear that Apple does not envisage this as a kitchen-countertop speaker or a deskside assistant: this is a high-fidelity sound system that should have the likes of Bang & Olufson and Bose just as worried as Amazon, Google and Sonos.

1. Convenience
1a. ease of use - even my wife can use them
1b. ease of setup
2. reliability - its far more reliable than apple air play
3. the plethora of music services available to it. I would be surprised if Apple has nearly as many as sonos does
4. and certainly not the least, they sound, really, really good. You would have to have stereo, amp and dedicated speakers (all of which i have) which could total you easily in excess of 1k to really beat the sound of these things.

I am not full blown audio-phile, where i need power conditioning surge protectors and 100% lossless audio. But i appreciate quality sound, and they sound pretty dang great for the money.



June 18th. You can also get 100 off the sub, if your in the market for one.

http://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/2-room-music-system.html
It was rhetorical. I was defending Sonos with that post.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
lol these price comments. GAF seems out of touch.

Do you guys know how much Bose SoundLink II cost? And that is JUST a Bluetooth speaker

$350 is great price for what this is. Seems like a solid system.
 

Timbuktu

Member
It really depends on how this sounds. I haven't been interested in the echo or google's offering and it doesn't seem like Apple is all that interested offering the same thing either. There is plenty of space in the market for these things and this might be a nice product though no game changer. Not sure Apple would have sustained interest in these things, always feels like a 'hobby' to them.
 

Meier

Member
It really depends on how this sounds. I haven't been interested in the echo or google's offering and it doesn't seem like Apple is all that interested offering the same thing either. There is plenty of space in the market for these things and this might be a nice product though no game changer. Not sure Apple would have sustained interest in these things, always feels like a 'hobby' to them.

I have an Echo -- it's mostly just for setting timers for my oven to be honest, haha. Alexa somehow gets activated probably 3x as often as I actually ask her to do something. If we had a smart home then it would definitely be more beneficial, but I got it for about $90 on sale so I wasn't going to pass up on it.
 

voOsh

Member
Another weird Apple decision along with watches and removing headphone jacks. I don't really understand them anymore but they make bank so I guess I'm crazy.
 

orborborb

Member
I really like the design of this, the only Apple products I consider to be more beautiful are the iPhone 4/4s and "cheese grater" Mac Pro
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
FT impressions say it's better than the Play 3: http://blogs.ft.com/the-world/liveb...desktop=true#d1c44adfc6033ee1575ec845ad89aadb




It was rhetorical. I was defending Sonos with that post.
I thought you might be, but I thought I would throw that out there for those that don't know.
lol these price comments. GAF seems out of touch.

Do you guys know how much Bose SoundLink II cost? And that is JUST a Bluetooth speaker

$350 is great price for what this is. Seems like a solid system.
Hmm what's one thing both bose and apple have in common? Both having a reputation for being very overpriced?

It is overpriced, you can get two sonos play 1s or two echos for the price of one of these.
 

SourBear

Banned
Thing I want to know:

Can the HomePod act as a repeater / mirror or whatever the heck you want to call it?

With AirPlay 2 announcement and the announcement that a bunch of speaker makers will support AirPlay 2, can the HomePod transmit to these speakers the same signal it is playing?

If so.. you really only need one HomePod and then you can buy whatever quality AirPlay 2 supported speaker(s) you want.
 

giga

Member
I thought you might be, but I thought I would throw that out there for those that don't know.

Hmm what's one thing both bose and apple have in common? Both having a reputation for being very overpriced?

It is overpriced, you can get two sonos play 1s or two echos for the price of one of these.

the soundlink's are definitely worth their price.

two play 1 or two echos doesn't make sense when this is combining both (or doing better in some cases).

Thing I want to know:

Can the HomePod act as a repeater / mirror or whatever the heck you want to call it?

With AirPlay 2 announcement and the announcement that a bunch of speaker makers will support AirPlay 2, can the HomePod transmit to these speakers the same signal it is playing?

If so.. you really only need one HomePod and then you can buy whatever quality AirPlay 2 supported speaker(s) you want.

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BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I thought you might be, but I thought I would throw that out there for those that don't know.

Hmm what's one thing both bose and apple have in common? Both having a reputation for being very overpriced?

It is overpriced, you can get two sonos play 1s or two echos for the price of one of these.

No you can't. Play 1 is $200.

So you can get Sonos play 1 (200) & Amazon Eco (180). So $380.

So Sonos play 1 has to sound so much better than HomePod to have this as an viable option.

I will say again, HomePod is a solid price, and this is coming from someone who absolutely hate Apple pricing

lol, Siri uses Bing?


Do people in 2017 have any legitimate reason to shit on Bing? Sometime when I have abundance of time, I try to search the same word in both Google and Bing. And for life of me, I don't understand what is actually wrong with Bing, because I get everything I want. Its not better or worse than Google. Its just as good. So do people just hate it for sake of it? or there is actually reason to it?
 

SourBear

Banned


There you go. Buy one HomePod and then get a few really good quality AirPlay 2 speakers and you can end up with a damn good multi-room home audio setup.
The HomePod is a smart move from Apple. People are nuts thinking this is DOA.

This is going to fit my needs really really well.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
There you go. Buy one HomePod and then get a few really good quality AirPlay 2 speakers and you can end up with a damn good multi-room home audio setup.
The HomePod is a smart move from Apple. People are nuts thinking this is DOA.

This is going to fit my needs really really well.

just like any Apple products.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
the soundlink's are definitely worth their price.

two play 1 or two echos doesn't make sense when this is combining both (or doing better in some cases).



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Yea, but are people going to see it that way? Guess we'll find out.
No you can't. Play 1 is $200.

So you can get Sonos play 1 (200) & Amazon Eco (180). So $380.

So Sonos play 1 has to sound so much better than HomePod to have this as an viable option.

I will say again, HomePod is a solid price, and this is coming from someone who absolutely hate Apple pricing
Read my post above you can get two play 1s right now for 350.

Also its Apple that has to prove their product against sonos not the other way around. Sonos has a rock solid product and reputation. They're going up against people like me who already have a sonos or echo or both. Why would I buy this? Especially when I know how closed apple's systems tend to be?
 
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