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With all the gifs you can use, you had to use cringy turd man?!
You don't think a Horizon game could look this good on the PS5? Especially if it was only on the PS5?
From what I read you unlock it at the end so im guessing they struggle with putting it in the main game due to balance or it making things trivial, so its kind of a reward at the end when nothing matters and you can just roam the world.So it seems that the Chinese review was right and you can fly. Great!
I don't know anything about marketing or PR at all, but I wonder why Guerrilla has never wanted us to know that until now, many people was requesting something like this and they would have been even more hyped.
Side by side you see the point very clearly.Why CGI.. games now look so good in real-time, I don't see the point.
it's a demo with no gameplay
Guaranteed they will. Sony are starting to synergies and start working together with it's various divisions. This should have been done a lot sooner.Damn, the hype is real! I just cant wait.
Also...make a movie or an original series for Horizon, I would love that.
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huh It has plenty of gameplay. Just because you cant shoot at people doesnt mean you dont have an entire open world you can drive and literally fly in. You literally have a on-rails shooting segment and realtime chaos physics handling the destruction model every time you crash your car.That's not a game to begin with, it's a demo with no gameplay, and it runs at 1080p with broken framerate. Not fair comparison.
Homie just wants knowledge.So do we think Sylens is bad?
For the next game to look like this.This is what a true next gen only Horizon wouldve looked like btw.
Yeah gameplay with as much possibilities as Atari 2600 games, sorry that's not gameplay for me.It had gameplay.
Matrix was made by a total of 80 people combined in less than a year. If anything costs are getting cheaper because you can literally import millions if not billions of assets from the Quixel libraries instead of having to scout and model assets yourself. You can look at UE5 demos on PCs made by 1 person and see they look far more impressive than current gen games. Even stunning games like Horizon FW.Homie just wants knowledge.
He'll sell his sister to the streets for it.
For the next game to look like this.
The game needs to be on PC, PS5, Stadia, Amazon Luna, Switch, and Xbox. That gme would not be cheap to make at all.
They need to fill the world with more then collectathon items. And have more interesting side quests.That's not a game to begin with, it's a demo with no gameplay, and it runs at 1080p with broken framerate. Not fair comparison.
I agree that Horizon isn't that crazy impressive, but it's good and there aren't many better games right now, i just hope they fixed aspects where first game was lacking.
I heard diminishing returns arguments back in 2011 when the first Orbis specs were leaked. People were convinced we would get Uncharted 2 quality graphics in HD. Some people simply lack the imagination or the common sense to see that we arent even close to hitting photorealism let alone maxing out interactivity and physics in games. If anything, we will never hit a cap on physics because games are only just trying to mimic real world physics. We have not even dared to make games with characters that control water, wind, sand and other elements we typically see in super hero movies.The real proof that diminishing return Is bullshit, this is what a next gen game should have looked like
Where the hell do you come up with the bolded? You're so full of crap.This was on PS5 in 2021: Made by a team of 80 people. GG has 400 far more talented devs.
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Maybe but don't forget it's an early gen game too. I agree that it sucks it's crossgen but just get over it at this point, and hopefully GOWR will be the last Sony Crossgen btw.You don't think a Horizon game could look this good on the PS5? Especially if it was only on the PS5?
From what I read you unlock it at the end so im guessing they struggle with putting it in the main game due to balance or it making things trivial, so its kind of a reward at the end when nothing matters and you can just roam the world.
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You honestly believe a game can look like that during gameplay on ps5? That would be a bigger leap than ps2 to ps3.
Not a fucking chance in hell.
The matrix demo is a meh example, it doesn't look nearly as good as this trailer, and the matrix demo itself is not a full fledged open world game, it's a limited and scripted demo, no matter how much you can fly with a damn camera.
I may be pessimistic, but this is ps7 material, not even 6.
I think it's more of an argument of what's probable rather than what's possible.This was on PS5 in 2021: Made by a team of 80 people. GG has 400 far more talented devs.
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"Many machines can now be converted into allies, including flying ones. That's right: you can ride flying mounts now. Luckily, enemies wont be able to do the same"![]()
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There's no flying guys. Don't get your hopes up.
Copying the greatest Open World game of the last gen, FFXVFrom what I read you unlock it at the end so im guessing they struggle with putting it in the main game due to balance or it making things trivial, so its kind of a reward at the end when nothing matters and you can just roam the world.
I heard diminishing returns arguments back in 2011 when the first Orbis specs were leaked. People were convinced we would get Uncharted 2 quality graphics in HD. Some people simply lack the imagination or the common sense to see that we arent even close to hitting photorealism let alone maxing out interactivity and physics in games. If anything, we will never hit a cap on physics because games are only just trying to mimic real world physics. We have not even dared to make games with characters that control water, wind, sand and other elements we typically see in super hero movies.
People have asked me what Horizon FW could do to look next gen. And I would try and find Matrix gifs or other UE5 forest demos. Well this is it. This is what we couldve been getting in 2022 if Herman hadnt been so unambitious in late 2017.
When the shooting section started, I legit thought I was playing one of those PS1 era FMV games like X-Files. Even I didnt think we would get to that level of fidelity this gen.The Matrix demo downplaying in this Thread hurts my soul.
That shit looks like real life in proper conditions on my TV. Not CG, real life.
Because you cant fly for 99% of the game. Mechanical spoilerLol what was the point of making flying so secretive if you were just going to reveal it in a cinematic trailer?
Because you cant fly for 99% of the game. Mechanical spoilerYou basically get it at the end. Im guessing for a final mission.
Source is someone from era who got the review copy.
You think real time games are going to be able to look like that very obviously pre rendered CGI trailer this gen? That thing clearly looks better than the Matrix demo, or the original UE5 demo that ran on PS5. I really doubt we are reaching that level with PS5 or XSX. Of course we aren't close to photo realism yet, but didn't Cerny or Sweeney also guess it would take around 40TF to hit that point? I could be wrong on that, but pretty sure I read something similar.Hey man......does it bother you like it bothers me that even on a video game forum like GAF that we have so many people that lack the imagination or common sense to see that we aren't even close to hitting photorealism or being able to make games that look like this cinematic trailer?
It kills me that people can watch both Tim Sweeney and Mark Cerny explain to them how this gen will bring NON-Diminishing return graphics, yet they still think the PS5\Xbox Series X gen's game graphics will just be RDR2 level at 60 fps. Like.......wth is wrong with these folks?
I think either way he's annoying and boooring
Yes, it's infuriating but Gamers are gamers and not artists. It's the job of the artist to show whats possible and they have failed miserably. What really bothers me is that we are two years in and not a SINGLE video game from either company has shown has the future of next gen.Hey man......does it bother you like it bothers me that even on a video game forum like GAF that we have so many people that lack the imagination or common sense to see that we aren't even close to hitting photorealism or being able to make games that look like this cinematic trailer?
It kills me that people can watch both Tim Sweeney and Mark Cerny explain to them how this gen will bring NON-Diminishing return graphics, yet they still think the PS5\Xbox Series X gen's game graphics will just be RDR2 level at 60 fps. Like.......wth is wrong with these folks?
So do we think Sylens is bad?
This was on PS5 in 2021: Made by a team of 80 people. GG has 400 far more talented devs.
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on ps6 ;d
Actually this game struggles to run at 1080p 30 fps on the PS5/XSX so its fair to assume that those two consoles were the base.No.
The good news is that demo would have looked significantly better if it was exclusively made for PS5/XSX. And that is not a slight on the XSS, its fine. I'm just highlighting why we have reason to believe that more next gen titles may not be far off from this HFW cinematic trailer.
In what way would it look better?, its pushing the ps5/xsx to sub 30fps framerates so its already pushing those systems beyond there limits.No.
The good news is that demo would have looked significantly better if it was exclusively made for PS5/XSX. And that is not a slight on the XSS, its fine. I'm just highlighting why we have reason to believe that more next gen titles may not be far off from this HFW cinematic trailer.
If you do that you are gonna be super OP for the story.Yeah I figured that'd be the case. Bit worthless to me since I leave the main story till last and then i'm done with the game
Actually this game struggles to run at 1080p 30 fps on the PS5/XSX so its fair to assume that those two consoles were the base.
In what way would it look better?, its pushing the ps5/xsx to sub 30fps framerates so its already pushing those systems beyond there limits.
If you do that you are gonna super OP for the story.
I will add though, that realtime is catching up in environments, I watch bobba fett and some of the cgi environments in that dont look to different to UE5.You folks do realize that a second of cgi of this quality takes hours for a render farm to render.
To run in real time would need like 5000tflops.