SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yep. By waiting two years we get to see the honeymoon period end, and the real opinions come out.
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Horizon: Forbidden West releases on Steam with lower player count than Horizon: Zero Dawn
Yep. By waiting two years we get to see the honeymoon period end, and the real opinions come out.
TheAtomicPile
Member
Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Right? Just throw it in the pile with the other notable leftist sales failures like Last of Us 2 and Spider-Man 2!
Wastelander92
Member
Sad, it's actually a really great port.
BiohazardX95
Member
Aloy doesn't look like that in the Game.Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
PanzerCute
Member
Not a bad game, but a terrible sequel. Writing, story, gameplay, level design, characters, etc... everything is a big downgrade compared to the first one (except the graphics obviously).
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
How?
PanzerCute
Member
New skills were not really useful, level design made me stuck numerous times on objects or on the terrain while fighting, new machines were not that interesting, new weapons not really fun etc.. I remember having a blast playing the first one, and raging a few times on the second.
I played it in hardest difficulty mode.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
They need to go day and date with these releases to make any real profit like with helldivers 2. but they also know it will affect their console sales even more.
Probably shouldve just stuck with the console business instead of trying to get a slice of that PC pie.
These numbers for their single player games shipping 2 years after launch are pretty underwhelming.
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Pakoe
Member
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It’s like the prettiest girl in a small town where everyone gushes over her. She moves to the big city and discovers she’s just average.
FalconPunch
Gold Member
Woke? Bruh ugly women have existed since the beginning of time.Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Again, Sony had already banked the bulk of sales AND put the game on PS Plus Extra before announcing a PC port.
There’s no logic in your claim that this port has led to a reduction in customer count.
FalconPunch
Gold Member
Yea i couldn't finish forbidden west. Aloy was just too annoying.
Braag
Member
I liked the first game enough to jump into this. Played for maybe 40 mins until my mates asked me to come spread democracy in the name of super earth. Will get to it soon I guess.
Have to say that out of all the Sony 1st party games I've played on PC, Horizon is the weakest, but in no way bad.
I finished the prologue and I instantly noticed her looking quite different from the first game. She has a weird pear shaped head.
Have to say that out of all the Sony 1st party games I've played on PC, Horizon is the weakest, but in no way bad.
I finished the prologue and I instantly noticed her looking quite different from the first game. She has a weird pear shaped head.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Next game when she complete the transition:Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Gudji
Member
Your memory is playing tricks on you.
PanzerCute
Member
Nah, I almost hated this game after having loved the first one. Story is terrible and the writing was hilariously bad. I dont remember any new characters while I can still remember ones from mid games from two generations of consoles ago.
The level design was also plain as hell, with sometimes great vistas but mostly dull locations, and never any "wow moment" like I had in the first one.
My memory is crystal clear, this was just a terrible sequel and a dull experience, with no memorable moments and it felt like a waste of my time. I vividly remember all the facepalms I had during some cutscenes and with the different tribes you encounter, like the "C'eeho" native american one that felt like one of the most ridiculous thing I came across in recent memories.
Subjective opinion and all that, I understand, but I perfectly remember what I played and it was not great. A safe, dull and random as hell AAA gaming sequel experience.
Negotiator101
Member
It will do OK over time but PC gamers are far harder to please that PS ones.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I’ve lost track on what’s a meme with Aloy’s fat face these days. Is the one on the right actually legit?Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Represent.
Banned
Most immersed i've been in an open world game since.. I dont even know. Loved the game. Stunning.
Windom Earle
Member
darrylgorn
Member
Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
Please tell me the face on the right is photoshopped
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Senua
Member
Baby don't hurt me
Why are you posting MJ from Spiderman 2 in a Horizon thread?
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Gudji
Member
Well like you said subjective opinions and all but I have the completely opposite opinion of yours and I'm a guy that only sticks with great games.
I'll drop a game after a couple of minutes/hours if its not good enough or doesn't feel like it has something interesting going on and that definitely didn't happened with HFW or even the first game, on the contrary.
They raised the bar with the sequel in every single aspect of the game, either you like the story or not that's another question. I did enjoy the story of the first game more but that's mostly due to the theme of mystery going on, which while it's still present in some capacity in the second game it's a completely different tone. Doesn't mean the story is bad tho, it was written by the same guy Alex Gonzalez (he wrote the trilogy).
The game offers a level of immersion above the previous game, with better combat, characters, world design, etc. Could be here all afternoon saying how underrated it is but I won't bother because the people around here have been shitting on the game since it released, so no surprise here.
Nydius
Gold Member
Probably already been said but Zero Dawn was a new property with a quasi-original idea (though not an original gameplay loop) that actually told a decent story with a pretty good twist toward the end.
Forbidden West is now a “known quantity”. The hype of it being a new universe no longer exists and the game itself suffers from quite a bit of sequel-itis. They try too hard to tell a story equal to what they wrote with ZD but it just ends up jumping the shark (to use an oft overused phrase) repeatedly. The gameplay doesn’t stand out over its predecessor either, especially since they doubled down on the amount of open world fluff compared to ZD.
The drop between the two really doesn’t surprise me, especially now that the game’s been out a few years on PlayStation platforms with in depth reviews.
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The first game, the story really grew organically as you went along. And built to a crescendo when you finally learn what Zero Dawn actually was, who Aloy actually is, and what Hades actually is.
The Forbidden West writers felt like they needed to top that and ended up throwing a bunch of over the top nonsense at us.
REGALLA! ZENITHS! QUEN! NEMESIS!
The end result was a game that wasn’t nearly as memorable as the first and has driven the franchise into a weird direction. I would have enjoyed the game so much more if it had just been about Hephaestus being rogue and not all the ridiculous attempts at plot twists
Forbidden West is now a “known quantity”. The hype of it being a new universe no longer exists and the game itself suffers from quite a bit of sequel-itis. They try too hard to tell a story equal to what they wrote with ZD but it just ends up jumping the shark (to use an oft overused phrase) repeatedly. The gameplay doesn’t stand out over its predecessor either, especially since they doubled down on the amount of open world fluff compared to ZD.
The drop between the two really doesn’t surprise me, especially now that the game’s been out a few years on PlayStation platforms with in depth reviews.
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The first game, the story really grew organically as you went along. And built to a crescendo when you finally learn what Zero Dawn actually was, who Aloy actually is, and what Hades actually is.
The Forbidden West writers felt like they needed to top that and ended up throwing a bunch of over the top nonsense at us.
REGALLA! ZENITHS! QUEN! NEMESIS!
The end result was a game that wasn’t nearly as memorable as the first and has driven the franchise into a weird direction. I would have enjoyed the game so much more if it had just been about Hephaestus being rogue and not all the ridiculous attempts at plot twists
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killatopak
Member
It’s just the viewing angle.Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
/s
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PanzerCute
Member
Let's agree to disagree then, I felt the complete opposite. But I obviously respect your opinion.
Cheers!
ManaByte
Gold Member
Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
The 2021 image is a meme photoshop. That's not what she looks like in the game.
Nydius
Gold Member
The 2021 image is definitely old or manipulated but let’s not pretend like they didn’t make her look more masculine in Forbidden West compared to her original appearance in Zero Dawn. They clearly did.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
She looked like that in the trailer. but after we raised a big stink, they changed her character model to be far more attractive in the final game.
She still looks a bit chubby but not as bad thanks to everyone who memed her.
They know she doesn't, but posting actual photos of the character instead of altered ones doesn't make for good shitposting.
Nydius
Gold Member
Seems to be the Horizon curse. It always releases whenever there are other games that will overshadow it.
Gudji
Member
HZDThe 2021 image is definitely manipulated but let’s not pretend like they didn’t make her look more masculine in Forbidden West compared to her original appearance in Zero Dawn. They clearly did.
HFW
Man you guys are always reaching with this game. Aloy must have killed someone in your family or some shit.
daninthemix
Member
Well it was released in the middle of the week one day before a pretty huge release (Sony aren't great at timing their Steam releases). Should get a better idea of numbers this weekend, but even then people will be playing Dragon's Dogma 2.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Woke games are not exactly hot shit these days. Also:
When people use the word "woke" you know their argument is going to be awful.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
1. You don't devalue your IP by selling it at a cut-price on a new platform.
2. At high prices you can afford to sell less to break even, especially when there's no other monetization.
3. As mentioned elsewhere, open week/weekends mean very little when there's no marketing push.
4. Lastly, Sony really aren't likely to care that much when its on PS+ already.
Nydius
Gold Member
Reaching? You literally just posted video evidence of the significant changes they made to her face model between games. If you can’t see them, I suggest making a visit to an optometrist.