PropellerEar
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tommib
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PropellerEar
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
tommib
Banned
Yes and Sony has been so flaky about this. The information on the store is still super confusing. I'm afraid that the upgrade will only work for disc versions. Their whole upgrade program is a clusterfuck and designed to make you spend those extra 10 bucks even if it the upgrade comes with the PS4 version.i bought the PS4 version of this game (save £10, why not)... is anyone else worried there is gonna be a issue with the free PS5 upgrade on launch day
PropellerEar
Member
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Poor guy went out of his way to get a review copy even without Sony sending one. (or didn't play it and reviewed it anyway)
Thirty7ven
Banned
Tell me you reviewed the game by watching a state of play video without telling me you reviewed the game by watching a state of play video.
IbizaPocholo
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I think there may be a bias here boys....
StealthGoblin
Banned
Only thing that bums me out a bit is the knocks to the story, but I knew in my heart it wouldn't be as impactful and focused as Zero Dawn, so its not a knock in my book. The rest sounds brilliant. I can see this being one of my favourite games because the moment to moment gameplay is excellent.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
This speaks to a bigger industry issue. Studios and certain bonuses developers get that are tied to metascores. I don't know if that still happens but watching a game missing the 90 on metacritic due to a salty reviewer shouldn't happen.
The artful mincer
Member
Careful that spoils a couple of new machines including a Big One!
Thirty7ven
Banned
I don't think that's going to happen. Let's also not lose perspective on the fact that HFW is scoring an higher metacritic than neogaf's 2021 game of the year, with more reviews taken into account.
Kiraly
Member
What about a publisher (Sony) limiting review access to a site that dared to give lower scores to their previous games?
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
The last Ratchet & Clank, for all it did right, literally had unfinished areas in the swamps.
Tomeru
Member
Or cut areas, but I wouldn't know as I didn't play it.
But anyway, got more examples from more sony titles? I mean no disrespect to to you, but claiming a lack of polish is a common trait in sony 1st party titles is quite the statement.
Topher
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John Wick
Member
They did right to limit an MS/Xbox fan site.
Vaelka
Member
I like his reviews a lot, he and his brother are pretty funny and tend to have some actual common sense and call bullshit in the industry out.
They don't shy away from criticizing '' collegues '' doing and saying dumb shit.
His presence on Twitter tho is the typical exhausting bs, just avoid him there.
Dibils2k
Member
no, the issue is if you review a sony game badly they will not give you early copies... seem like they are buying good reviews
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BLAUcopter
Gold Member
Wow this is pretty expensive here on the Australian Playstation store. $124.95!! That's like 90 USD. Time to start shopping around cause I ain't paying that.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Before or after tax? Some have tax included.
GymWolf
Member
Thank god i didn't watched it, the fake enthusiasm of the chick was enough to make me bail out after 30 sec.
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GymWolf
Member
He probably expected to see different colors for different routes.
Only one color = only one route
Videogame journalism, ah!
Romulus
Member
Theres literally no way around it. Its a technical marvel AND an exceptional game, 2 things you don't see often in tandem.
GymWolf
Member
It's not an universal thing tho, a lot of journalist loved the story and characters in the new one.
Story is always gonna be subjective, many think that the first horizon has an excellent scifi story (way less good for the tribal stuff) and some think it's boring af.
The guy who wrote the plot for the first one also wrote the plot for the second one with all the connections etc, so i have faith, the story was always divided in 2 parts since the beginning.
If anything, reading the the game expect you to know every singel details of the previous game and it's not friendly with people who know shit about the first title kinda gives me faith on the game being story heavy and using all the optional sidestuff that many people never even read in the first game.
People talking about too much scifi jargon is music to my years because as a fanboy i know every single shit about horizon jargon and i want more.
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IllegalLemon
Member
It's bizarre that when people are salty about a company not giving them a review copy ,they're still willing to go to great lengths to get it and in the process don't care and are still willing drag an innocent bystander down the rabbit hole and potentially cause them to lose their job as well. All for these glorious views and web traffic, why am I not surprised.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I mean...can you blame them?
Can you honestly look at this picture and not notice any bias whatsoever?
Plenty of outlets have given bad scores to Sony games, yet after decades they still get review copies. Maybe you should just be impartial and you'd be respected and ultimately still get those review copies.
I mean...can you blame them?
Can you honestly look at this picture and not notice any bias whatsoever?
Plenty of outlets have given bad scores to Sony games, yet after decades they still get review copies. Maybe you should just be impartial and you'd be respected and ultimately still get those review copies.
Horizon 1 he gave it a 70 and Horizon 2 a 65 and almost all the reviews says Horizon 2 is better in every aspect...
saintjules
Gold Member
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
Speak for yourself. There's been plenty to play
Captain Toad
Banned
This looks so good, but why does it have to come out a week before Elden Ring? I think I'll have to wait and start this after finishing Elden Ring.
Ogbert
Member
I'm more concerned by the tens and tens of reviewers that dial-in 9s and 10s for games that don't deserve it.
Sony, Nintendo and MS all benefit from this. The industry is driven by the juvenile belief that there's something wrong with a game getting 75 to 80%.
Zeroing
Banned
Because the game was to be delayed, devs didn’t meet the deadline!
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Most of this wouldn't be an issue if we stopped trying to qualify entertainment products with a number. Honestly i only care about Digital Foundry or videos like those at this point. Their Horizon video is better than all written stuff you can post in here and that's ultimately what i care about: the technical flaws of each game. something you CAN qualify. If a game plays at 4k with no frame drops...then that's it. No other way around it. You get my point.
I'm still from those days where the scale actually went from 0 to 10. Remember when only groundbreaking games could get perfect scores?
Ogbert
Member
Yep, agree 100%.
I just think, in this instance, that outlier reviewer isn't really the problem. Looks like he's an Xbox guy being a bit bias; it is what it is.
As you point out, the industry wide problem is that fact that Sony and MS (not sure if Nintendo do it, expect not) have incentivized their developers with Metacritic scores, knowing full well that this pressure will filter down to journalists who simply slap nines and tens on everything, desperate to keep their access. We no longer have anything resembling objective and technical video game journalism where, regardless of genre or style of game, we get an honest evaluation of how a game plays.
tassletine
Member
I agree. At this point a 9/10 for a AAA title is a warning sign.
VeganElduderino
Member
Yeah i did the same ! I'm a little scared tooi bought the PS4 version of this game (save £10, why not)... is anyone else worried there is gonna be a issue with the free PS5 upgrade on launch day
Martinski43
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Pound Him!
RoadHazard
Gold Member
That's not what I'm talking about though, I'm saying the robobirds themselves are just "plattforms" moving around in a predefined pattern, rather than mounts you can actually pilot. Or that's how it looks to me.
Captain Toad
Banned
Bastards
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Oh I misunderstood your post apparently, maybe they are controllable but I haven't seen enough to be sure.