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[MastaKiiLA]

its crossgen, never seen in history of consoles crossgen that looked nextgen

Miles Morales says hi. I'm not sure what the definition of next-gen is to some, but no one looks at the PS4 version and the PS5 version of MM side-by-side, and says they can't tell the difference. There's nothing current-gen about the RT in that game.

 

[GymWolf]

Is that a threat? or a promise of a good time?

Depends on liking average sized penis or not.

 

[SlimySnake]

Not sure why you're trying to compare a heavily compressed 1080p stream to 4k video capture. It's disingenuous.

Thats because thats all we have right now. i will do many more comparisons when the 4k feed is out.

here is a gif from the 1080p feed of the ue5 demo i made yesterday literally as i was watching it.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Personally, I don't see what is wrong with this. Looks good but this is coming from someone who was a-ok with the Halo infinite original showing.

 

[Tommi84]

One of the locations is called 'The Dry Yearn'

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Thats because thats all we have right now. i will do many more comparisons when the 4k feed is out.

here is a gif from the 1080p feed of the ue5 demo i made yesterday literally as i was watching it.

Visuals that no game will have for 4-5 years, because no game is a closed tech demo. You're reverting back to your 2020 form, man.

 

[GHG]

Did it leak or something? Where are these screenshots from?

 

[Fake]

Wonder who is doing the monitoring...

Spoiler

Hades

Did it leak or something? Where are these screenshots from?

livestream. Building hype I guess.

 

[SinDelta]

One of the locations is called 'The Dry Yearn'

Well I certainly have a yearning for this game.

 

[Salz01]

Now that I thought about it some more, it seems like Sony is saying with this, “Yea we know you can’t find or buy a PS5, dont worry, you still can play this on your old PS4“.

 

[SlimySnake]

Miles Morales says hi. I'm not sure what the definition of next-gen is to some, but no one looks at the PS4 version and the PS5 version of MM side-by-side, and says they can't tell the difference. There's nothing current-gen about the RT in that game.

nah miles is cross gen as fuck. RT reflections alone dont make it next gen. if that wasthe case then control in 2019, bf5 in 2018 were next gen

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Miles Morales says hi. I'm not sure what the definition of next-gen is to some, but no one looks at the PS4 version and the PS5 version of MM side-by-side, and says they can't tell the difference. There's nothing current-gen about the RT in that game.

Miles morales looks like top tier current gen + rt (just compare with ps4pro version) I’m sure we will get better looking games further in this generation

 

[SinDelta]

This one looks super nice:

These ones are ok

...I need to get a PS5.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Feed seems to be breaking up more often... Hmmm

 

[TheGodfather07]

Thats because thats all we have right now. i will do many more comparisons when the 4k feed is out.

here is a gif from the 1080p feed of the ue5 demo i made yesterday literally as i was watching it.

only naughty dog and rockstar games will manage anywhere near these kind of visuals

 

[Cyborg]

My god, these snippets of the game look sometimes so good and sometimes so so bad. I need the full reveal cause this is dissapointing

 

[Okamiden]

this game will look amazing but some of you havent learn from halo infinite. we will be able to see the effects of cross gen. this is still a ps4 game at its core. be hyped but check your expectations. remember, this game needs to run on a base ps4 with a jaguar cpu and 1.8tf gpu.

STFU, ok? Sony showed us trailer with true next-gen graphics and hyped us up with it. If final game will look nowhere near as good as trailer, than this is just a scam.

 

[SlimySnake]

...I need to get a PS5.

this game is on ps4....

 

[[Sigma]]

Half of you right now

This clearly above HZD1 easily even with the compressed vid I can see that.

 

[TheGodfather07]

STFU, ok? Sony showed us trailer with true next-gen graphics and hyped us up with it. If final game will look nowhere near as good as trailer, than this is just a scam.

trailer isnt gameplay. its your fault for being fooled. i knew it was never going to look that good in game.

 

[Shubh_C63]

I am just wondering why they would show in-engine background that doesn't melt your brain graphics.

No matter how you put it, games gonna be a beaut so why ?

 

[Zoro7]

Half of you right now

This clearly above HD1 easily even with the compressed vid I can can tell see that.

What do you expect. It’s always the usual suspects.

 

[Okamiden]

I am just wondering why they would show in-engine background that doesn't melt your brain graphics.

No matter how you put it, games gonna be a beaut so why ?

To soften the blow obviously

 

[MastaKiiLA]

nah miles is cross gen as fuck. RT reflections alone dont make it next gen. if that wasthe case then control in 2019, bf5 in 2018 were next gen

Post a video, and say the same thing. You're out of your mind. The world density, lighting, and RT are another level from the PS4. That's not even mentioning the material shaders and in-game models.

In any case, this isn't about MM, so I should never have brought it up. That's my bad.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Miles morales looks like top tier current gen + rt (just compare with ps4pro version) I’m sure we will get better looking games further in this generation

RT is computationally taxing. Look at how other games with RT stack up against Miles. But like I told Slimy, it's my bad for dragging MM into this thread. Let's agree to disagree.

 

[SinDelta]

this game is on ps4....

How big of a difference are we looking at? Loading screen, ect? I have a Base PS4 Slim, and I have concerns about it trying to run Horizon Forbidden West.

 

[SportsFan581]

nah miles is cross gen as fuck. RT reflections alone dont make it next gen. if that wasthe case then control in 2019, bf5 in 2018 were next gen

Are the performance and fidelity slides transposed? Blue jacket seems to have more "fidelity" in the inner shot.

 

[ZywyPL]

The detail on the rocks is literally a gen behind and the foliage quality looks nothing compared to what we saw last here in the gif below. Maybe this area will look better when they do the full reveal today but this is not a good look.

Everyone with at least quarter of brain already said last year that all the footage Sony showed back then was nothing but cut-scenes/CGI and not a single secong of an actual gameplay, and that those "in-engine"/"captured on PS5" labels mean absolutely nothing, but you didn't want to hear that. So today it is what it is, a PS4 game, which was also known for a very long time

Although knowing Gaf I'm fully prepared to see comments after the show how yesterday's UE5 demo looks like last gen now. 5 more hours lol.

 

[G-Bus]

To soften the blow obviously

Jokes aside yea. I think keeping expectations I check is important here. End of the day this is running on base PS4 and wouldn't expect a jump over the original.

With that being the case ray tracing and 60fps on ps5 will be nice. I expect something similar to miles Morales.

 

[Tommi84]

Winter night

 

[MasterCornholio]

Can this be Sonys Craig moment?

 

[Md Ray]

DVD 480p video!

I like DVD!

Later on, I'll use AI to upscale that 480p footage to 4K like I did with Bloodborne!

 

[MastaKiiLA]

There's a weird shimmering effect on some of the distant clouds, near the mountains. But other clouds don't exhibit that. I wonder if intentional, or an artifact. I noticed it during the sunrise earlier too.

 

[kyliethicc]

They said that is slightly bigger than horizon 1.

Not bad. First game was fairly large, including FW.

 

[skit_data]

Can this be Sonys Craig moment?

Nah, I seriously doubt that to be the case. Horizon Zero Dawn on PS4 was better looking than Craig.

 

[iorek21]

Looks no different from HZD, but hey, those are just small fragments of footage, right?

There's probably going to be stuff like the reveal trailer... I hope.

 

[Balducci30]

I don’t think this looks “bad” at all? It doesn’t look on like Unreal 5 level but who expected it to

 

[vpance]

Last gen draw distance needs to go away ASAP. Wonder if that'll be better on the PS5 version.

 

[SlimySnake]

Are the performance and fidelity slides transposed? Blue jacket seems to have more "fidelity" in the inner shot.

the only difference between performance and fidelity on PS5 is RT. At 60 fps you are probably getting a much more cleaner image.

 

[Audiophile]

Even taking into account the crappy low-bitrate 1080p stream this is blatantly a cross gen-limited game if this is what we're to expect from the gameplay later and the PS5 version as a whole. The trailer last year blew me away and yet it looks like we're just getting a top tier, late gen ps4 game with a few bells and whistles on PS5.

Nothing has disappointed me more than this game being announced as cross-gen, so much potential... There's just no getting around the gulf between the two systems. A part of me was just hoping Guerilla were going to step it up and branch off with two functionally different versions, but I guess there's no real business incentive to that approach.

Sony's past approach at the beginning of generations is to shift quickly to next gen only and really show off the system; and the intrinsic properties of the new hardware means that approach is even more important now. I see people arguing about the limited supply, but regardless of that, Sony have still sold more consoles in this timeframe than PS4 did, so it doesn't hold weight. PS4 has also had 7.5 years of great content, it's had a great run, it's had its time. Releasing newer first party stuff on it now just undermines the technical potential of those titles.

This 5 hour intro stream looks like a way to soften our expectations gently.

 

[Jigsaah]

Sorry just woke up. What's going on with State of Play? Why is there no gameplay?

 

[MarkMe2525]

Waiting for the incoming HZD 2 and Hellblade 2 cloud comparisons.

 

[TranscendentDee]

What's so ugly about what's being shown? Looks good to me.

 

[Balducci30]

Post a video, and say the same thing. You're out of your mind. The world density, lighting, and RT are another level from the PS4. That's not even mentioning the material shaders and in-game models.

In any case, this isn't about MM, so I should never have brought it up. That's my bad.

I gotta agree with him I don’t see miles morales as particularly “next gen” looking in spite of the additions

 

[Malakhov]

Don't care if it's crossgen, if it looks as good as tlou2 I'll be happy

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Expected to see sick looking game.

But got cheated by 5 hours by Sony.

Glad am not the only one. This is far more entertaining than that.

 

[SlimySnake]

Jokes aside yea. I think keeping expectations I check is important here. End of the day this is running on base PS4 and wouldn't expect a jump over the original.

With that being the case ray tracing and 60fps on ps5 will be nice. I expect something similar to miles Morales.

If they wanted to keep expectations in check, I'd argue that they shouldnt have raised them with that trailer last year.

This is back when Jim Ryan was going around telling everyone how he believed in generations. I wouldnt be surprised if they created that trailer using the PS5 specs.

Lets see if the water physics get downgraded as well. If the waves dont look like that you will know that the trailer was faked.

 

[Jigsaah]

I am so confused right now. Somebody help me out please?

Why is it just a camera looking over various vistas? I thought it was supposed to be like 15 minutes of gameplay.

This reminds me of what Dr. Disrespect did when he was coming back from his Twitch perma-ban. He had a loop running for like 24 hours. Please tell me this is not that.

 

[CamHostage]

I am so confused right now. Somebody help me out please?

Why is it just a camera looking over various vistas? I thought it was supposed to be like 15 minutes of gameplay.

Countdown at 9AM PST, Showcase at 2PM.

This was always the schedule, but the word didn't get out very well (or didn't get through to us when we read it) that the show really begins later today.


(*Back to bed. I read bad too...)

 

[nani17]

I am so confused right now. Somebody help me out please?

Why is it just a camera looking over various vistas? I thought it was supposed to be like 15 minutes of gameplay.

This reminds me of what Dr. Disrespect did when he was coming back from his Twitch perma-ban. He had a loop running for like 24 hours. Please tell me this is not that.

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