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Horizon Series Voice Actor is Worried About Game Performance as a Art Form After an ‘AI Aloy’ Video Surfaced

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
The arts should never be replaced by A.I. no matter the medium, it will eventually happen but I reckon there'll be a massive backlash hopefully from consumers once we start replacing human actors with A.i. people gotta eat and earn a living ffs and all this does is make the top 1% even richer, it benefits no one
 
This is the fucked up part about it.

Or even more fucked up is that people are okay with it.
It's just pointless to try to prevent it from happening. The box is open, you can't force it back in. It is a major threat to society, sure, replacing this time white collar workers with artificial stuff and no substitute in sight... but it's not like it would replace the hard working american, german, whatever adult worker with some child slave in India or Congo... no one other than the directly affected which might be a ton of people can have to say anything objective against it.
Governments will have to come up with solutions to distribute the workforce very different in the future. 30h week or rather even less will imho be absolutely necessary. With a much higher minimum wage of course. This technology will make a few people very rich, but to prevent society from collapsing rich people will have to bleed a lot soon. Mankind mostly in the "west" is going backwards in wealth distribution, which won't work forever peacefully. That's more of the actual problem than voice actors being replaced by bits and bytes.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
If AI is better, so be it.

No different than other media. Before all the digital CGI stuff took over things were done old school with painters, professional photographers, miniature model makers and claymation dudes. Now, it's green screen CGI effect masters using whatever Industrial Light & Magic tools which can create amazing set pieces sitting behind a keyboard.

Tech can takeover any industry. It's just that I dont think many people thought things like acting and voicework would get replaced like a bunch of blue collar guys losing a job to a robo arm making cars.
 
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Magic Carpet

Gold Member
What is the term for what I call 'Gerbil Speech'?
That old electronic warbling as text scrolls in a speech bubble.
It continues to be used even today.

I'm picturing a new Horizon game with text bubbles and gerbil speech, and you will be offered DLC voice options to buy.
Computer voice cheaper
Actors more expensive

How many will stick with Gerbils as default?
 

Arachnid

Member
Man, time does fly by.
I still remember when she and her brother started their careers with "Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin'?"
Probably there is few people that still remember those, from the olden days of youtube and the internet.
Marathoned that entire series with a buddy in high school. They were all legitimately fucking hilarious.

I wonder how Papa Birch is doing. A quick google tells me he and Anthony haven't been on speaking terms for a while.
 

YCoCg

Member
guys, hear me out, I'm worried that video game companies won't use voice actors anymore because of AI, so what we're going to do is go on strike, to delay games, which definitely won't make video game companies decide to use AI voice actors in the future.

dumb cunts.
We're in a transition phase, they still need the actors to train on, that's the legal and moral issues, they want the actors to sign away any recordings they do so they can train AI models on them and the legal fight is about who gets paid and for what.

I know it's hard for some people to emphasize but imagine the same thing in your job, your employer wants to replace you with AI, but the AI isn't ready yet, so your boss wants to change your work contract to include training the AI that will replace you. Would you be cool with that?
 
Don't feel sorry for her one bit.

But at the end of the day I doubt this is going to change anything. While having one less insane woke retards working is always welcomed. It's still going to be the same thing with the A.I like for example even if they got rid of the actor. Taash will still be butt ugly and the sick devs will still use the A.I with Taash's character to push their mentally insane views on people.

I haven't seen the Aloy A.I video but I'm assuming it only changes the speech and not the looks? If so than I don't really see how it would help. It'll just be a A.I speaking through a shitty character like Forbidden West Aloy rather than a human speaking through the same shitty character. If the A.I actually makes a better looking character which they usually do compared to woke craps than that would at least be worth it but again I'm assuming this is just the voice that's being replaced.
 

GymWolf

Member
Fun fact, If you type IA aloy on google these are the first 2 results

04cd1a9a-0486-4258-b7d4-c973c7fe221a

2a001fe7-a9b2-413f-8158-d82fb68bec6c
 

Begleiter

Member
Nothing either of the Burchs have made rises to the level of art, but it's a valid concern for people who don't owe their careers to nepotism and therefore need to be worried about making anything worth stealing.

There is a value to having real people involved in the process - maybe the best line read isn't the one who had in your head, sometimes things are improvised or just happen on set or in the booth that make the work stronger. AI just makes it easier to put Nathan Drake into Prince of Persia.
 

RafterXL

Member
The best part about AI is how drastic the discussion has changed since it actually started replacing jobs. Back in the day, when everything was hypothetical, everyone was gung ho about AI and prevailing wisdom was that is was going to decimate blue collar jobs and leave millions of blue collar workers unemployed. None of these people gave a fuck. It was all "they should have gone to college" or "should have learned to code" type stuff. Now that AI is here and it's apparent that white collar, and creative, jobs are getting hit the hardest, and will continue to get hit the hardest, it's all doom and gloom and we're supposed to feel sorry for them.

I couldn't care less about her future prospects, maybe she should take up pool cleaning, or lawn care?
 

XXL

Member
The best part about AI is how drastic the discussion has changed since it actually started replacing jobs. Back in the day, when everything was hypothetical, everyone was gung ho about AI and prevailing wisdom was that is was going to decimate blue collar jobs and leave millions of blue collar workers unemployed. None of these people gave a fuck. It was all "they should have gone to college" or "should have learned to code" type stuff. Now that AI is here and it's apparent that white collar, and creative, jobs are getting hit the hardest, and will continue to get hit the hardest, it's all doom and gloom and we're supposed to feel sorry for them.

I couldn't care less about her future prospects, maybe she should take up pool cleaning, or lawn care?
Tonight Show Comedian GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 
We're in a transition phase, they still need the actors to train on, that's the legal and moral issues, they want the actors to sign away any recordings they do so they can train AI models on them and the legal fight is about who gets paid and for what.

I know it's hard for some people to emphasize but imagine the same thing in your job, your employer wants to replace you with AI, but the AI isn't ready yet, so your boss wants to change your work contract to include training the AI that will replace you. Would you be cool with that?

Ya know what, it's in the public domain, AI is trained on the whole internet, we're not getting paid for it and it's coming for all of our jobs, are we all going on strike? just do your job, striking doesn't sit right with me.
 

YCoCg

Member
we're not getting paid for it and it's coming for all of our jobs, are we all going on strike? just do your job, striking doesn't sit right with me.
Preferably some sort of action needs to take place and the only one workers can really do is strike, what's the alternative? "Do your job" and help the AI and then just get fired? What happens when AI craters the job market? What are we going to do with the massive amounts of unemployed people? Just accept it? "Guess I'll die then"?
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
I’m 100% ok with AI replacing these people.



Just listen to this shit. FF7 Remake is a high budget AAA game. Imagine a big budget movie using acting that is this awful. It would never happen, and if it did it would be endlessly mocked.

WHAT ?!
That's the point of it. It's supposed to be like that.
It's not bad acting. It's perfect for what they are trying to achieve.
It's anime essentially. It's not supposed to be realistic at all.

When I played it, I started feeling like you but ended loving it. It was actually refreshing to play something feeling so stupid and youthful but on purpose and high budget.
It's almost like this game is a stick in ass test for boring people who take everything too seriously
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
The best part about AI is how drastic the discussion has changed since it actually started replacing jobs. Back in the day, when everything was hypothetical, everyone was gung ho about AI and prevailing wisdom was that is was going to decimate blue collar jobs and leave millions of blue collar workers unemployed. None of these people gave a fuck. It was all "they should have gone to college" or "should have learned to code" type stuff. Now that AI is here and it's apparent that white collar, and creative, jobs are getting hit the hardest, and will continue to get hit the hardest, it's all doom and gloom and we're supposed to feel sorry for them.

I couldn't care less about her future prospects, maybe she should take up pool cleaning, or lawn care?
talk about some basic human empathy lol.
If it is going for their job. It will go for your job too
 

Zacfoldor

Member
Many games don't have VA because the cost is expensive. If AI means all games go 100% voiced, I'm 100% for it. I do have sympathy for those who have been or will be made obsolete. I'm not sure what could be done, but slowing down the progress of AI in our industry is not the answer.

Think of the blind people who will now be able to enjoy these games, maybe even the older ones, because they are voiced.

There are many solutions to this problem, but "stopping AI" is not one of them. It's like asking us to holup on building model Ts because the horses aren't ready to retire yet. Every day we go without improving AI is a day that is lost forever.

Let me ask you this. Do you believe in the social contract? Wokesters sure do. Next time a wokester tells you to stop AI because all the art jobs will get replaced first, tell them:

A. All art is arbitrary, and this proves it.
B. You are shirking your responsibility to the social contract by asking for AI to be slowed down
C. AI will help the disabled first, VA replacement with a real sounding voice is a HUGE part of that, be careful of what you are asking to be slowed down
 
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True, but those jobs helped provide something of value to society. AI so far is making useless entertainment and incorrect answers and a sprinkle of cheating in school. It may have more use in the future.
AI is already being used to discover new antibiotics. You're spending to much time learning about AI on Neogaf it's being used for much more than just entertainment related things.
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
A lot of that is on the director more than the voice actor. I did some theater when I was young and remember having to lines over and over again until I got it right for the director.
So what we really need is AI writers and directors. Preferably ones that are trained on FF7 Remake as an example of how not to write/direct.
 
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AI will replace many jobs. The obvious goal is to make companies' operations more efficient and, as a result, increase profits. This has happened throughout history... technology eliminating jobs. People can complain as much as they want, but it’s practically an inevitable pattern. again.
 
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