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House adopts rule that permits hiding how public funds are used

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...bbcb1e-e27e-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html

While all eyes were focused on failed House efforts to eliminate the Office of Congressional Ethics — the only independent watchdog with jurisdiction over House members — Republican congressmen led by Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) quietly succeeded on another dubious ethical front: They adopted a rule designating records created, generated or received by a member’s congressional office “exclusively the personal property” of that member and granting members “control over such records

Making congressional records the personal property of members seems tailor-made for the next lawmaker who, like former congressman Aaron Schock (R-Ill.), hopes to evade criminal responsibility by barring access to material allegedly showing how he misspent public funds.

Schock was indicted in November on 24 criminal counts stemming from his use of his congressional office and campaign committee funds. The fraud charges were based on a range of conduct that allegedly included seeking reimbursement for approximately 150,000 miles of personal travel, purchasing a new vehicle for his personal use and using campaign funds to decorate his congressional office in an homage to the hit British period drama “Downton Abbey,” with accouterments such as a crystal chandelier, a gold wall sconce and arrangements of pheasant feathers.

Before the indictment, the Justice Department engaged in a protracted legal battle with Schock’s lawyers over who controlled thousands of pages of congressional office records from his tenure. Both Schock and the House general counsel argued that Schock personally owned the records and could not be compelled to produce them. In arguing for the right to access documents showing how Schock spent public funds, the government called Schock’s ownership claim “repugnant to the fundamental principle that no man is above the law.” In other court papers, Justice lawyers pointed out that Schock’s congressional office “does not exist and has never existed solely to represent and serve the interests and goals of Schock or any other Congressman.” Ultimately Schock backed down in the face of a second subpoena, and his indictment quickly followed.

Now, with the latest rule change, members will be shielded from Justice Department subpoenas for records like those at issue in Schock’s case
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Full story at the link. I don't know how I'm even shocked by this anymore.
 

chefbags

Member
Fuck. Them. All. Fuck these Republicans. Fuck Trump. Ughhhh.

It's been less than a week ago since he was president. Fucking hell.
 

Speely

Banned
This is like a stupid cartoon where the bad guys just do all the bad things all the time.

But it's real life.
 

HvySky

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It's really surreal to sit back and list off everything that's happened since Trump was sworn into office. It's been, what, a week? And this much damage has already been done?
 

UberTag

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Why should American taxpayers want to know what their money is being spent on? Just trust Daddy Trump to tell you that it's all good, he's got your back and to trust your feelings.

I mean, hey... trusting feelings is what prompted him to go after Hispanic voters who were keeping his German golfer buddy from illegally voting in an election.
 

Boke1879

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I would LOVE to see anyone who voted for Trump or republicans defend this shit.

The GOP is fucking diseased to the core.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
As the wise philosopher Lil Wayne once aptly replied:

"Fuck'em and everyone who loves'em."
 
Peaceful protesting may not be effective enough, at the current rate. Time to shut the country down with a nationwide strike. There has to be something we can do to get through. Fucking with mega-corporations seems like a likely way?
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
It's really surreal to sit back and list off everything that's happened since Trump was sworn into office. It's been, what, a week? And this much damage has already been done?

It was a levee waiting to burst. If there was any one arguing for the moral levels of either party the handling of Bills and what has passed during Obamas reign, and a week into a Republican controled government should be the clearest of indicators.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
I read "Permits" as "Prevents" at first and I was very very confused. When I finally realised it said 'permits' it made sense
 
Peaceful protesting may not be effective enough, at the current rate. Time to shut the country down with a nationwide strike. There has to be something we can do to get through. Fucking with mega-corporations seems like a likely way?

Give it another week and striking and boycotting will be ruled "economic terrorism."
 
Fuck. Them. All. Fuck these Republicans. Fuck Trump. Ughhhh.

It's been less than a week ago since he was president. Fucking hell.

See, this isn't even a Trump thing. This is the GOP finally given the chance to go ham. This would have happened with Jeb or Cruz or Rubio at the helm. It will take decades to clean up this mess. American complacency or naivety has allowed the legislative branch to fortify itself against regulation or oversight.
 

Speely

Banned
Peaceful protesting may not be effective enough, at the current rate. Time to shut the country down with a nationwide strike. There has to be something we can do to get through. Fucking with mega-corporations seems like a likely way?

More likely that the blatant and horrific shit that's being pulled will instigate enough protest that it will escalate into less peaceful forms and thus enable the current administration to declare martial law. It's Shock and Awe on a domestic level, and it might work.
 

UberTag

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Every GOP member should be kicked out of office.
Every right-wing talk show and right-wing news agency should be taken off the air or burned to the ground. There's free speech and then there is brainwashing the masses and fueling them with hatred. They're too dangerous to be left up and running.

More likely that the blatant and horrific shit that's being pulled will instigate enough protest that it will escalate into less peaceful forms and thus enable the current administration to declare martial law. It's Shock and Awe on a domestic level, and it might work.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7c_-EipVKs&t=122s[/URL]
 

Avixph

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Every right-wing talk show and right-wing news agency should be taken off the air or burned to the ground. There's free speech and then there is brainwashing the masses and fueling them with hatred. They're too dangerous to be left up and running.


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7c_-EipVKs&t=122s[/URL]
Definitely. Also doesn't freedom of speech only protect you from the government taking action against you not other individuals?
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Every possible measure the founding fathers took to prevent America from becoming a regime has been sidestepped at every turn. Nothing will stop these people.
 
but what about the Freedom of Information Act

From the rest of the article

This rule change also represents yet another example of Congress exempting itself from the same record and accountability system that governs the executive branch. Congress is not subject to either the Freedom of Information Act or Federal Records Act. Although the Center for Legislative Archives houses records of historic value of the House and Senate, the records remain the legal property of the House and Senate.

Now, by making the records of congressional offices the personal property of members, the House has ensured that none of these records will be available for posterity. How ironic that Republican-controlled congressional committees have relied on statutes such as FOIA and the Federal Records Act to fault the practices of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, yet members have cloaked themselves in an impenetrable secrecy that allows them to escape public accountability.
 

mnannola

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"What do we want?!"

"Hide how public funds are used!"

"When do we want it?!"

"Now!"

You guys remember these chants right?
 

LakeEarth

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Republicans said Clinton was corrupt for no reason they can explain (or have any basis of reality), but will somehow see nothing wrong with this.
 

massoluk

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Someone asked in the other thread how can it be any more blatant, well here it is. It can only be more blatant if a law flatout requires an official to embezzle and graft
 
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