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[kinoki]

Firing up the 8th episode now. So far this season shows what a poor season the last one was. The third season really seemed low budget and without a clear purpose. It's fun how they bring back the old players. Five seasons seems to be perfect. Will be fun seeing how this plays out even though it's grown predictable.

 

[Anson225]

Hi all I just finished 2 episodes but things are already confusing me:

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so seems everyone is trying to sabotage Frank's campaign but what are the connections between Claire and Jackie and Seth? Is Seth working for Dunbar now?

 

[Keihart]

Yesterday i watched the first episode when i woke up...and the last one before going to bed. Yup it was good.

 

[thenexus6]

I think I made a big mistake watching epsiode 10

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on Mothers day yikes

 

[Pooya]

episodes 1-4

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Meechum nooooo ;_;

 

[GK86]

Hi all I just finished 2 episodes but things are already confusing me:

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so seems everyone is trying to sabotage Frank's campaign but what are the connections between Claire and Jackie and Seth? Is Seth working for Dunbar now?

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Claire wants to run for a seat in the Senate.
Jackie wants to support Dunbar, as she hates Frank.
Seth is trying to have a backup plan in case Frank loses the nomination.

 

[Anson225]

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Claire wants to run for a seat in the Senate.
Jackie wants to support Dunbar, as she hates Frank.
Seth is trying to have a backup plan in case Frank loses the nomination.

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ah thanks got it with Claire and Seth
So why is LeAnn spying on Jackie? Basically what is the relationship between Claire and Jackie?
so much to digest lol

 

[GK86]

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ah thanks got it with Claire and Seth
So why is LeAnn spying on Jackie? Basically what is the relationship between Claire and Jackie?
so much to digest lol

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They (Claire and LeAnn) are trying to get to Remy through Jackie. Jackie, who is married, is having an affair with Remy. They need Remy for their plan.

 

[crisdecuba]

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They (Claire and LeAnn) are trying to get to Remy through Jackie. Jackie, who is married, is having an affair with Remy. They need Remy for their plan.

Although, I think the reason they are trying to get to him will not be clear until a few later episodes.

 

[thenexus6]

Just finished it. It was awesome, much better than season three.

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I thought this would be the last season - 52 episodes = 52 cards in a deck which would've been cool. But next season must be the last. And its going to be awesome..Also dat final Frank breaking the fourth wall and Claire looking too..

 

[Spikematic]

Ok, that was an AMAZING season. Binged the entire thing in 2 days.

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The ending scene was as epic as the second season's.

Oh man, the wait for the next one's gonna be a killer.

 

[Chase17]

On Freddy this season:

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it was so stupid..made no sense. Character assassination. His hatred of Frank makes no sense. Even in s3 the way he acted by saying he didn't like talking to Frank was a bit strange.

The Frank/Freddy relationship was one of the most interesting parts of the show, in that Freddy is the only person who Frank seems to enjoy socializing with.

The whole "everyone hates Frank because...reaons" thing is getting a little old. Yes it makes sense for people like Jackie and Remy...but Frank never did anything wrong to Freddy, and even went out of his way to help the guy

Yeah, I thought that seemed out of place too. I mean I guess it makes sense that he is

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a little upset that Frank isn't happy for him with his new job. But enough to curse out the president? Was awful. I don't remember Frank ever doing anything insulting to him. I just remember him getting Freddy a job last season. Also I get Fresdy could be upset that he is just treated as "the help" but he is serving the president. For the entire Frank-Freddy relationship, Freddy has been serving Frank. If we saw any connection with them outside of patron-provider area maybe this scene would be more appropriate.

Also let's have Freddy beat up a journalist because he isn't a snitch. Uhhh, ok...sure. You could just say no. No need for assault Freddy.

Anyways, his scenes really bugged me and I feel like I'm missing something about them.

 

[scarlet]

Yeah, I thought that seemed out of place too. I mean I guess it makes sense that he is

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a little upset that Frank isn't happy for him with his new job. But enough to curse out the president? Was awful. I don't remember Frank ever doing anything insulting to him. I just remember him getting Freddy a job last season. Also I get Fresdy could be upset that he is just treated as "the help" but he is serving the president. For the entire Frank-Freddy relationship, Freddy has been serving Frank. If we saw any connection with them outside of patron-provider area maybe this scene would be more appropriate.

Also let's have Freddy beat up a journalist because he isn't a snitch. Uhhh, ok...sure. You could just say no. No need for assault Freddy.

Anyways, his scenes really bugged me and I feel like I'm missing something about them.

Yeah, not a fan of that too.

For me 1 > 4 > 2 > 3

 

[Harry Stewart]

Joel Kinnaman is weird because he's an actor I like despite him being miscast in almost every Hollywood role he's played. His Conway is not how I would have imagined that character, that much I'll say, but ultimately you kind of know that someone 10 years older and not Swedish should have played the part.

 

[Psychoward]

it's apparently hard for me to remember plot lines in this show I had no idea who the guy in the opening scene of the season was supposed to be

I thought it was the writer at first lol

 

[thenexus6]

Joel Kinnaman is weird because he's an actor I like despite him being miscast in almost every Hollywood role he's played. His Conway is not how I would have imagined that character, that much I'll say, but ultimately you kind of know that someone 10 years older and not Swedish should have played the part.

He has a small head compared to his body / shoulders so he looks a little weird in these suits.

 

[Zepp Twofist]

Ep7, not really a spoiler, but

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Frank needs to listen to some Hardcore History before making speeches about Sulla and Marius

 

[Theorry]

Episode 4

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Did Meechum just saw at the very last moment that it was the reporter and just killed him because of what the reporter could cause if he was alive after the shoutout?

 

[Harry Stewart]

Episode 4

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Did Meechum just saw at the very last moment that it was the reporter and just killed him because of what the reporter could cause if he was alive after the shoutout?

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Nah I don't think he was thinking any further than eliminating the threat.

 

[FiggyCal]

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No repercussions is the name of the game. Jesus Christ 6 episodes in and everything just falls into place for this guy.

I'll just spolier in case.

Edit: 7 episodes in and I'm definitely not liking this season.

 

[Kolx]

I just saw the first episode and it reminded me why I loved House of Card in the first. This episode is better than anything the third season had to offer and I'm really happy that I didn't drop the show last season.

 

[Trago]

Just finished the whole season.

WAAAAYY batter than Season 3.

 

[FiggyCal]

So episodes 1-6:

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This is pretty bad. They're really stretching this one out. There's absolutely no blowback from anything that Frank or his team has done. Even when Frank gets shot, he wins. He is just too lucky of a character. Not even his father having ties with the KKK affected him in the slightest. And Heather Dunbar, after looking like she's going to be the big threat this season just suspends her campaign off-screen. Lucas, who was the most informed of Frank's crimes just dies, also off-screen.

Claire goes from being a master tactician to occasionally just getting really emotional and petty at the worst times, like when she confronted her mother or the Russian president. Or how about just being plain dumb, like making enemies out of the senator and her daughter when they could've given her an endorsement.

At this point, I'm wondering if there's anything that will stick to Frank. Why should I continue watching if everything just goes his way anyhow. He has no equal. He is too perfect as a character and too lucky.

 

[Anson225]

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They (Claire and LeAnn) are trying to get to Remy through Jackie. Jackie, who is married, is having an affair with Remy. They need Remy for their plan.

Although, I think the reason they are trying to get to him will not be clear until a few later episodes.

thanks - just finished ep. 6

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so Claire was using the affair to control both Jackie and Remy just in case? Since she wouldn't know she would need them for the oil crisis in the beginning right?

also

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how exactly does the asylum request escalated to the bailout program? was Claire using the chance to solve the gas price problem?

 

[Gray Matter]

Kevin spacey is a tremendous actor, if it wasn't for him that character wouldn't be as good, having said that, I'm really over the way Francis rules with fear and intimidation. It was believable during season 1 and 2, but not anymore.

 

[FiggyCal]

I've noticed that they also use the phrase: "both sides of the aisle" a lot. It makes me cringe irl and in the show.

 

[vpance]

This search engine thing is ridiculous.

 

[Gray Matter]

The

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claire and tom affair things makes no fucking sense. This show has an awesome premise, but they fuck it up with irrelevant sexual relationships and stranger than fiction political scenarios.

Late season spoilers btw.

 

[Salvadora]

So episodes 1-6:

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This is pretty bad. They're really stretching this one out. There's absolutely no blowback from anything that Frank or his team has done. Even when Frank gets shot, he wins. He is just too lucky of a character. Not even his father having ties with the KKK affected him in the slightest.

At this point, I'm wondering if there's anything that will stick to Frank. Why should I continue watching if everything just goes his way anyhow. He has no equal. He is too perfect as a character and too lucky.

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He lost the South Carolina primary, his home state.

I'd say that affected him - given his reaction. Sure it didn't knock him out of the game, but why would it? Given the current political landscape, I'd say people are well aware of the delegate system

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

And its done

Watched all of S04.

It was fantastic again, I really hated S03.
STUFF HAPPENS and then some OW BOY

So good.
At the end I always forget your not supposed to route for Underwood, I always forget that when I start the season.

Ep 4 was just the best did not expect that at all.

 

[Kyou]

This search engine thing is ridiculous.

"Beyond together we hope beyond beyond" *poll numbers skyrocket*

 

[Psychoward]

This search engine thing is ridiculous.

Yup

 

[cLOUDo]

Wow at that episode 4
I really hate Claire, is more insoportable than skyler
Is like a child, you tell her A and she does B just because fuck everything.

I hope Francis crush her

 

[CoolOff]

Wow at that episode 4
I really hate Claire, is more insoportable than skyler
Is like a child, you tell her A and she does B just because fuck everything.

I hope Francis crush her

Nah, fuck off with that. I've seen it expressed elsewhere, and it really feels like it's because she's a woman a lot of the time. Francis is a way bigger scumbag than Claire is.

 

[FiggyCal]

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He lost the South Carolina primary, his home state.

I'd say that affected him - given his reaction. Sure it didn't knock him out of the game, but why would it? Given the current political landscape, I'd say people are well aware of the delegate system

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See, but that's what I'm talking about. It gives the appearance that he's affected by something when he really isn't, because ultimately, he still won the nomination. Just like when Lucas got out of prison and no one close to Frank knew about it. That was only the appearance of Frank being in trouble, what actually happened was that not only did Lucas not achieve what he wanted (twice), Dunbar didn't take him up and he failed to kill Frank; he also helped Frank stave off two challenges. Lucas doing what he did saved Frank's marriage and his position as the democratic candidate. Even on the brink of death; everything went about as perfectly for him as it could have. Even the liver donation... the person in charge of that just discarded the evidence because God-forbid there's any loose ends that might catch up to him.

There's no actual suspense at this point, because after 3 seasons we've learned that nothing actually touches him; it's looking increasingly predictable.

 

[vpance]

"Beyond together we hope beyond beyond" *poll numbers skyrocket*

Pssst, I gained access to Google Trends this morning. We need to talk, NOW.

 

[Mephaisto]

Finished the season, liked it overall. Far superior to the mess that was S3. The best moment for me was (Ep4 Spoiler)

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Francis getting shot. Didn't see it coming at all, and it was believeable that Lucas would do it since he was out of options in his mind and really wanted Francis to pay.

Some things bothered me though (full season spoilers

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Doug being creepy again. I thought it had run it's course with the rachel story, but nooo...

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Too often do people win arguments by saying something intimidating, then the other person rolls over, e.g. Doug threatening the health secretary, claire trashtalking petrov even though he had basically send her out already. Those two really stuck out to me.

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The whole search engine story line was as idiotic as the writer storyline in S3 (and that guy returns, but only as a normal supporting character, so it was fine) I just can't believe someone coming up with that and other people saying "oh yeah, great idea!"

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As others have said, the Freddy scene was complete nonsense.I already disliked how they made Freddy despise Francis in S3, even though I felt like they had a friendly, class-overarching relationship before.

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Conway was soooo unlikeable. Holy crap. I mean, obviously every politican is a villain in this show..but come on. He didn't even have any charisma. His face and expression just screamed "please punch me". No idea if it was the actor or the writers fault, probably both.

Other stuff, like

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the first lady getting a VP nominaton

, was normal suspension of disbelief, so I could live with it.

Bonus positive point:

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CONWAYS WIFE WAS SO HOT OH MY GOD

Anyway, looking forward to the next season!

 

[giga]

Conway is terribly miscast.

 

[Kolx]

And its done

Watched all of S04.

It was fantastic again, I really hated S03.
STUFF HAPPENS and then some OW BOY

So good.
At the end I always forget your not supposed to route for Underwood, I always forget that when I start the season.

Ep 4 was just the best did not expect that at all.

Routing for Underwood is the right thing to do.

 

[Fracas]

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See, but that's what I'm talking about. It gives the appearance that he's affected by something when he really isn't, because ultimately, he still won the nomination. Just like when Lucas got out of prison and no one close to Frank knew about it. That was only the appearance of Frank being in trouble, what actually happened was that not only did Lucas not achieve what he wanted (twice), Dunbar didn't take him up and he failed to kill Frank; he also helped Frank stave off two challenges. Lucas doing what he did saved Frank's marriage and his position as the democratic candidate. Even on the brink of death; everything went about as perfectly for him as it could have. Even the liver donation... the person in charge of that just discarded the evidence because God-forbid there's any loose ends that might catch up to him.

There's no actual suspense at this point, because after 3 seasons we've learned that nothing actually touches him; it's looking increasingly predictable.

That's the problem I have.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Nah, fuck off with that. I've seen it expressed elsewhere, and it really feels like it's because she's a woman a lot of the time. Francis is a way bigger scumbag than Claire is.

We've accepted Underwood as evil though. Calire just comes across as self-absorbed.

 

[FiggyCal]

Conway is terribly miscast.

I think they were going for Rubio. Young person, old ideas. Not particularly charismatic, but looks like he should be...

Plus the privacy stuff was straight from Jeb Bush's irl campaign.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

As someone who only watched Season 1, should I even bother watching the rest of the series? Lots of mixed reactions here

 

[Psychoward]

Wow at that episode 4
I really hate Claire, is more insoportable than skyler
Is like a child, you tell her A and she does B just because fuck everything.

I hope Francis crush her

Yeah why doesn't she just bend over everytime she's ordered to do something?

 

[Trago]

As someone who only watched Season 1, should I even bother watching the rest of the series? Lots of mixed reactions here

Season 3 is utter shit, but season 4 more than makes up for it.


Keep watching.

 

[Dick Justice]

Nah, fuck off with that. I've seen it expressed elsewhere, and it really feels like it's because she's a woman a lot of the time. Francis is a way bigger scumbag than Claire is.

Claire has her moments. Like the shit with Gillian Cole. Though yeah, at least she's yet to murder anyone yet.

 

[giga]

As someone who only watched Season 1, should I even bother watching the rest of the series? Lots of mixed reactions here

Yes. Two is good. Three sucked. And four is back to being good.

 

[FiggyCal]

Nah, fuck off with that. I've seen it expressed elsewhere, and it really feels like it's because she's a woman a lot of the time. Francis is a way bigger scumbag than Claire is.

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Not really; her mom is dying of cancer and for no good reason, it seems like Claire is an absolute asshole. This is after her mom helped her out with 3 some millions in donation and allowing her back into her life after being abandoned.

 

[MMarston]

Just finished the second half of this season.

Now that's more like it

 

[Trago]

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Didn't like how Doug was just the 'muscle' until much later in the season. It was all "Do this, or else!" "Do this, or else!""Do this, or else!".