House Republicans/Ryan Finally Release ACA Repeal (lol) and Replace (lol) Bill

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TheLaughingStock said:
A great article from Vox on how the GOP dropped the ball repealing and replacing Obamacare (good) with the Paul Ryan plan (bad): http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14841580/obamacare-american-health-care-act

Is it that difficult to do the right thing for the people who need help? This should've been a layup for the GOP.
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I mean it's republicans so yes? How does one do the right thing by people but still make sure the poor suffer and companies get boatloads of money?
 
So will this go through or not? Will Trump and friends care that people will protest against this or will his ego just drive over them?
 
Conservatives are out in full force in news sites commenting that this plan is good and that poor people need to grab bootstraps.

I'm.... At a loss for words.
 
TheLaughingStock said:
A great article from Vox on how the GOP dropped the ball repealing and replacing Obamacare (good) with the Paul Ryan plan (bad): http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14841580/obamacare-american-health-care-act

Is it that difficult to do the right thing for the people who need help? This should've been a layup for the GOP.
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Making it better would invariably mean more subsidies and a stricter mandate. That's the antithesis of the GOP platform. Seriously, pushing through single payer would be a slam dunk victory, but it would cost the taxpayer (and their donors) so no chance.
 
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Things are going swell!
 
TheLaughingStock said:
A great article from Vox on how the GOP dropped the ball repealing and replacing Obamacare (good) with the Paul Ryan plan (bad): http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14841580/obamacare-american-health-care-act

Is it that difficult to do the right thing for the people who need help? This should've been a layup for the GOP.
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Had they the nerve (courage) to offer up a universal system, they'd remain in power for the next 12 years. That Vox article has it right...they've literally presented a plan that brings to mind an evil-mustache-twirling caricature that feeds off the poor.

Reps have been stuck in "theory over reality" for far too long now...You would think that at some point, they'd look at the rest of the civilized world and see that there are already better ways to do this. We don't have to reinvent the wheel...Ugh...
 
TheLaughingStock said:
A great article from Vox on how the GOP dropped the ball repealing and replacing Obamacare (good) with the Paul Ryan plan (bad): http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14841580/obamacare-american-health-care-act

Is it that difficult to do the right thing for the people who need help? This should've been a layup for the GOP.
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It could have been a layup, had they not spent the better part of a decade telling us Obamacare was the most horrific catastrophe in government history. They put themselves in a corner. They had to make it different enough from Obamacare to legitimately sell it as a repeal, but also make an attempt at providing premium relief. Because of the tax cuts for the rich, they were left with the impossible math problem of covering more people with less money. End result is exactly what you would expect.
 
3rdman said:
Had they the nerve (courage) to offer up a universal system, they'd remain in power for the next 12 years.
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That's what I keep going back to. It's only ideological purity, and being at the mercy of the super rich, that is preventing Republicans from taking control of an issue that could cement their power for a long time.
 
Ryan called the bill "an act of mercy."

Not enough LOLs in the world.
 
Awesome, it's already branded as Obamacare 2.0 by the right. Republicans are so fucked, they made this bed for 7 years and finally they will have to lie in it.
 
Hah, the freedom caucus (I think) is speaking out, going to introduce a bill tomorrow to repeal. "The same bill that every republican voted for 15 months ago"

This is such a hilarious trainwreck for the GOP.

Edit: Rand Paul now saying "Clean repeal.... Every republican voted for this 15 months ago.... united in repeal but divided on replace"
 
FStubbs said:
I don't get it. Why is Bannon against his own boss' plan?
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This isn't Trump's plan. It's Ryan's plan. Trump doesn't have a plan except to say no one will lose coverage, it'll be cheaper and it's a choice. Trump doesn't know actual policy. Trump was probably hyping it up because he can't wait to "repeal and replace" obamacare and have his name attached to something.

Not to mention. Brietbart and Bannon don't give a fuck about the current GOP. They probably love seeing Ryan's plan get shit on.
 
the only hope we have is that they can't actually agree on something to replace the ACA with because i feel like the proposals are only going to get worse from here.
 
silkysmooth said:
the only hope we have is that they can't actually agree on something to replace the ACA with because i feel like the proposals are only going to get worse from here.
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Tea party wants a full repeal, while most other R's know that explicitly taking existing health care away from people is a poison pill for reelection. They are in a wonderful quagmire of their own making.
 
Cesare Borgia said:
I'm starting to wonder. How many more fuck ups does Ryan get before Bannon starts floating the idea of having a Trump ally challenge him as Speaker.
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Trump praised it earlier, but I assume he'll be reading that article from Brietbart any minute now and I want to see how he reacts.
 
Republicans have really shot themselves in the foot here. Actually, right in their face with a shotgun.

Going on about how every republican has voted for repeal bills, in both the house and senate. These votes meant nothing though, there was no real consequence for voting to repeal with Obama as president. All it provided was political fodder for their base, now that they have to do something, and can do something, they are looking at the consequences and not everyone can agree what to do. They never had to come up with a real replacement plan, only a repeal the ACA bill, and now they see the outrage from constituents and are looking at the real consequences of any replacement of ACA they can come up with and are stuck in a real shit spot. The hardliners on Obamacare want a full repeal and nothing less, while the more reasonable republicans are trying to modify the ACA. They will never come together on this.
 
So is this week like the deadline or something for their new plan? Or are we in for several months of the GOP offering garbage plans that will be unacceptable.

This all makes Obamacare that much more impressive that it even managed to pass, even in the state it's in.

gazele said:
How the hell is this Obamacare 2.0???
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Sounding more like Obamacare -9.0
 
RDreamer said:
I don't really like them calling it that because dumbshits will then think Republicans actually did meet in the middle or something when in reality they put out a fucking joke.
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Or they kill it and spin it like "Hey! We just killed Obamacare 2.0! Go us!"
 
PandaPandaPanda said:
I hope whatever plan that gets passed(if any) is nicknamed something like GOPcare or something stupid like that. So when millions of people get fucked over, they can remember that the republican party did this.
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Yep, this is exactly what needs to happen. Not Trumpcare or Ryancare, it needs to be Republicancare.
 
PandaPandaPanda said:
I hope whatever plan that gets passed(if any) is nicknamed something like GOPcare or something stupid like that. So when millions of people get fucked over, they can remember that the republican party did this.
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A reporter at the press conference earlier suggested Trumpcare. I think it'll stick.
 
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