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Built my new pc just under a month ago. Went from GTX 1080 8GB to 7900XTX 24GB. Very happy with it so far.
I wasn't expecting that 24GB would have so many votes.
I was expecting that a lot more people had 8GB, since that was the standard for mainstream cards for a long time.
Do you have an onlyfans?Don't worry man, those very same people would absolutely buy a $500 PC that is better than PS5 and Series X combined
LOL
That's probably because GAF has a higher proportion of users who are enthusiast-level PC tinkerers, atleast the ones who are regularly active and vote on polls. For example i have had more than 10 GB VRAM since 2017 (a 1080Ti, now upgraded to 4090). That's not representative of the entire Steam userbase but a closer representation of GAFfers.Just for perspective:
On this site: 75% of people have >= 10GB
On Steam: 75% of people have <= 8GB
I wasn't expecting that 24GB would have so many votes.
I was expecting that a lot more people had 8GB, since that was the standard for mainstream cards for a long time.
This thread in no way represents vast majority of PC gamers. Look at Steam Survey results and 4080/4090/7900XT/7900XTX represent a very tiny fraction of player base.It's funny how people on NeoGAF always tell me you can build an amazing PC for $500, then you see this poll results and the majority of people here have GPUs with 24 freaking GB of VRAM or more
The usual bullshit by the PCMR
Majority? most people here have less than that.It's funny how people on NeoGAF always tell me you can build an amazing PC for $500, then you see this poll results and the majority of people here have GPUs with 24 freaking GB of VRAM or more
The usual bullshit by the PCMR
The point is that when you see threads like "is 12 GB not enough anymore", it's just so out of touch with what the rest of the PC world is doing and what devs have to think of when they make their games.That's probably because GAF has a higher proportion of users who are enthusiast-level PC tinkerers, atleast the ones who are regularly active and vote on polls. For example i have had more than 10 GB VRAM since 2017 (a 1080Ti, now upgraded to 4090). That's not representative of the entire Steam userbase but a closer representation of GAFfers.
I mean sure but a lot of the biggest games coming out for PC today are not exactly stuff that you'd expect people on 1050s to run.The point is that when you see threads like "is 12 GB not enough anymore", it's just so out of touch with what the rest of the PC world is doing and what devs have to think of when they make their games.
26% got 24gb. Damn, you guys aren't fucking around.
It's funny how people on NeoGAF always tell me you can build an amazing PC for $500, then you see this poll results and the majority of people here have GPUs with 24 freaking GB of VRAM or more
The usual bullshit by the PCMR
Skill issueIt's funny how people on NeoGAF always tell me you can build an amazing PC for $500, then you see this poll results and the majority of people here have GPUs with 24 freaking GB of VRAM or more
The usual bullshit by the PCMR
Another one who comes into every PC thread upset, for some reason.It's funny how people on NeoGAF always tell me you can build an amazing PC for $500, then you see this poll results and the majority of people here have GPUs with 24 freaking GB of VRAM or more
The usual bullshit by the PCMR
Another one who comes into every PC thread upset, for some reason.
What hypocrisy? Someone having a top-of-the-line rig must shit on budget and mid-tier rigs? Or maybe most of us know that we're enthusiasts and that you don't need to shell out 5 grands to get a solid gaming PC.Why should I be upset? I just laugh at the hypocrisy here
If you can afford a $3000 PC, good for you....
What hypocrisy?
You don’t even have to build one, a used Steam Deck can be had for <$300. Or you can spend $2700 on a desktop like I did and play there. Or own both and play on both, like I do. The point is you have options and budget builds are totally realistic and pie in the sky monstrosities are too.It's funny how people on NeoGAF always tell me you can build an amazing PC for $500, then you see this poll results and the majority of people here have GPUs with 24 freaking GB of VRAM or more
The usual bullshit by the PCMR
It's more due to how the game is optimized than your rig.12GB 4070ti, dragons dogma still runs like ass, fun game tho
First of, you keep making shit up with your $500 PC, almost no one says that. Second, if you have the money and are an enthusiast, why would you settle for a budget PC when you can get something better?It seems very clear to me: you just don't want to admit it.
Most people here won't ever DREAM about building a $500 PC because they truly believe it would SUCK, period....
No, they fucking don't. They correct trolls like you who claim that you need to pay $3-4x for a PC to match the consoles when in actuality, it can be done for $750-1000. You don't need a monstrous rig to have a good gaming experience and most of us recognize that. PCs can be budget conscious, they don't have to cost 3, 4, or 5 grands to be adequate, which is what most of us say.Then those very same people come in console threads complaining about how you could build an AMAZING machine for $500, much better than consoles.
Yeah, the blatant fallacies you're peddling are indeed hilarious.That very same machine they would never use, not even held at gunpoint
It's hilarious, really
First of, you keep making shit up with your $500 PC, almost no one says that. Second, if you have the money and are an enthusiast, why would you settle for a budget PC when you can get something better?
You, however, come with the incredibly flawed if not outright moronic premise that someone who has a $3000 rig but also thinks that budget rigs are fine is a hypocrite. Do you realize how stupid it is? Of course, you do, but you're a troll so you don't care.
No, they fucking don't. They correct trolls like you who claim that you need to pay $3-4x for a PC to match the consoles when in actuality, it can be done for $750-1000. You don't need a monstrous rig to have a good gaming experience and most of us recognize that. PCs can be budget conscious, they don't have to cost 3, 4, or 5 grands to be adequate, which is what most of us say.
Yeah, the blatant fallacies you're peddling are indeed hilarious.
Same exact upgrade path here. I had that 11GB VRAM back in March 2017 and laughed at how pathetic the VRAM upgrades were from the 20 and 30 series coupled with the paltry performance gains. The only decent upgrade was the 3090/Ti and those were insanely expensive and offered very weak gains coming from the 1080 Ti. The 4090 has the single biggest generational leap in performance gen over gen since Pascal 10 series vs Maxwell 9, so I knew this was the time to move and upgraded to the 4090 in October 2022. The best time to upgrade is always launch day of a new flagship card because it buys you the most time at the top as possible, since every day that passes following launch the card/chip etc is essentially aging and becoming closer and closer to obsolescence. It's been over a year and a half of owning this card and there's still nothing that comes close, and it will stay that way until the 5090 launches which I'll probably upgrade to.That's probably because GAF has a higher proportion of users who are enthusiast-level PC tinkerers, atleast the ones who are regularly active and vote on polls. For example i have had more than 10 GB VRAM since 2017 (a 1080Ti, now upgraded to 4090). That's not representative of the entire Steam userbase but a closer representation of GAFfers.
How about, let’s not go into threads just to platform war? Would be a lot more useful than agreeing to disagree.Let's agree to disagree then, no hard feelings...
If you don't like my posts, put me in the ignore list. It's that simple
It seems very clear to me: you just don't want to admit it.
Most people here won't ever DREAM about building a $500 PC because they truly believe it would SUCK, period....
Then those very same people come in console threads complaining about how you could build an AMAZING machine for $500, much better than consoles.
That very same machine they would never use, not even held at gunpoint
It's hilarious, really
It seems very clear to me: you just don't want to admit it.
Most people here won't ever DREAM about building a $500 PC because they truly believe it would SUCK, period....
Then those very same people come in console threads complaining about how you could build an AMAZING machine for $500, much better than consoles.
That very same machine they would never use, not even held at gunpoint
It's hilarious, really
Oh forgot to list how much VRAM my retro pc has.24GB 4090 on my desktop and 16GB 3080 on my laptop.
My previous desktop card was a 12GB 3080ti before I upgraded to the 4090.
The Pascal series and the 1080Ti in particular was an absolute monster, especially for its MSRP. For 6 years it fucking destroyed every game i threw at it.Same exact upgrade path here. I had that 11GB VRAM back in March 2017 and laughed at how pathetic the VRAM upgrades were from the 20 and 30 series coupled with the paltry performance gains. The only decent upgrade was the 3090/Ti and those were insanely expensive and offered very weak gains coming from the 1080 Ti. The 4090 has the single biggest generational leap in performance gen over gen since Pascal 10 series vs Maxwell 9, so I knew this was the time to move and upgraded to the 4090 in October 2022. The best time to upgrade is always launch day of a new flagship card because it buys you the most time at the top as possible, since every day that passes following launch the card/chip etc is essentially aging and becoming closer and closer to obsolescence. It's been over a year and a half of owning this card and there's still nothing that comes close, and it will stay that way until the 5090 launches which I'll probably upgrade to.
How often does that happen here? Seems like something Digital Foundry would say. I know I would never say it, don’t know whom among the PC enthusiasts I know here would do it either. And it’s not really a point saying it since console enthusiasts don’t stop at $500 either if they want both Xbox and Playstation and Slims and midgen upgrades and online gaming etc etc.Most people here won't ever DREAM about building a $500 PC because they truly believe it would SUCK, period....
Then those very same people come in console threads complaining about how you could build an AMAZING machine for $500, much better than consoles.
The 3060 is one of the most popular GPUs and it has 12 gigabyte.I mean sure but a lot of the biggest games coming out for PC today are not exactly stuff that you'd expect people on 1050s to run.