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How sugar may make you stupid
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Speak for yourself. I love sugar. I need help.
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This is only good for people who want to lift weights and get huge like the wrestler in your avatar. Nothing wrong with that, but most people aren't interested, I would think.
Let's see:
You say glucose is the culprit. This is false. Glucose is one culprit. Fructose is a much larger culprit, and you fail to acknowledge this.
They are not all glucose.
Again:
Glucose = glucose
Sucrose = 50% fructose + 50% glucose
HFCS55 = 55% fructose + 42% glucose
Just because they all contain glucose, does not mean they are all glucose. Certain types of sugars are far more detrimental to your health.
Again, entirely false. Sugar is much more detrimental than glucose because it contains fructose. Sugar will result in far greater LDL and fat gain than glucose.
Shall I go on?
Lazy Jones
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It´s true, I drink Coca Cola everyday and I´m very stupid.
I did a bit of searching for info on a reddit thread (which I would crosspost, but it's down at the moment). NutritionData's info for an Apple shows that one large apple has:
Sugars: 23.2g
Sucrose: 4617mg
Glucose: 5419mg
Fructose: 13157mg
Sucrose breaks down to 50/50 Glucose/Fructose, so it works out to:
Glucose: 7727mg (7.7g)
Fructose: 15465mg (15.5g)
once broken down, at least. This of course relies on NutritionData to be accurate. I don't know any other good sources that break down carbohydrate composition.
Your body turns those foods into glucose for cellular consumption. They start life as "carbs" and wind up "glucose".
This is why diabetics count carbs - not just sugar content. I don't look at a nutrition label and say "oh good - 56 carbs per serving but only 7 sugars!" No - i read that 56 as direct glucose, the end result after my body breaks it down.
Some days none, other days as many as five. I'd say two on average.
Ok, that's good to know!
He didn't mean proportionally to glucose, but in absolute terms. A 20 oz bottle of Coca-Cola has 65 grams of sugar etc.
FFS man - I'm talking about the direct result of GLUCOSE. No shit your body turns fructose into glycogen, lipids, etc by the liver - it does not require insulin for your body to use. I'm talking about WHAT DOES REQUIRE INSULIN.
The quote in my original post stated insulin regulates SUGAR LEVELS. Even you know that sugar isn't straight glucose.
Again, read my previous edit - I use the term "sugar" because that's how everyone understands GLUCOSE the easiest. My mom always asks "how are your sugars?" Family does, too. So I constantly refer to glucose as SUGAR - since it seems that's the extent everyone understands who does not know the difference.
Yes there are differences between table sugar and whole grains. I'm just speaking in generalizations.
Interfectum
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But the problem is people don't treat sugar like alcohol.
You act as if "everyone knows sugar is bad lawl" and that is simply not the case. People don't understand carbs, sugar, etc. Fuck 10 years ago I'd drink 6-7 cokes a day on top of pizza, carbs, fast food, you name it. I knew what I was doing was 'bad' but not 'alcohol bad.' Luckily I smartened up before I gave myself some dumb illness caused by malnutrition.
GraveRobberX
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Which is delicious, that's all that matters, right?... right?
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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What? Fructose is mainly metabolized by the liver.
Yeah I definitely didn't use the right term there.
edit: sorry, I said it backwards. Fructose can only be metabolized by the liver, and can't be used by other organs (whereas glucose can).
Carbs in general contribute to cognitive decline:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/251760.php
Refined sources of fructose (fructose might be worse because of how it's metabolized in the liver) and glucose are terrible, but total amount of carbohydrate is the biggest thing to watch.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/251760.php
Refined sources of fructose (fructose might be worse because of how it's metabolized in the liver) and glucose are terrible, but total amount of carbohydrate is the biggest thing to watch.
That's actually incorrect. It's not that the liver can't metabolise fructose, it is that ONLY the liver can metabolise fructose and if you watch the video you'll see that it's about 30% of the fructose that gets converted straight to fat. Not 100%
yn-neko hates a cat
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As far as glutens go, I'd be more worried about genetically modified products.
That said: I cant get myself to eat brown-rice based bread so I just cut down my intake and will continue to do so till I find a more palatable solution
That said: I cant get myself to eat brown-rice based bread so I just cut down my intake and will continue to do so till I find a more palatable solution
Yeah I most certainly posted a bit too hastily there. It's been a while since I've watched it so my memory was fuzzy. Thanks for the correction.
MoonLightWave
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How much more stupid are we talking about here?
Buckethead
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I really hate selective bolding.
SniperHunter
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should I unbold the entire article? I bolded the main points because not everyone has the time to read the entire article (slow readers and for readers with short attention span)
that1dude24
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FallingEdge
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Oh, I know. I just want people to get a different perspective as well. You seem to know what's up.
Liberty4all
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Nobody answered me. What's wrong with flax seeds? I put that in my health shakes for the omega 3
TAJ
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They're not fish?
Trent Strong
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So basically, go ahead and eat a ton of sugar as long as you follow it up with some flaxseed oil and a DHA capsule.
CornBurrito
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Yep.
Now I can gorge myself on sugar and bread. Time to get some DHA capsules!
Also I know wheat contains antinutrients, but arent those in miniscule amounts? Does it actually have the effect that people on this site would have you believe?
There is a lot of evidence of that the American Standard Diet is quite damning in general. I mean look at obesity and cancer rates. In the end even without the antinutrients wheat has next to no nutritional value. Well it may have some but its no where near what a good veggie or other quality food will get ya.
True education is always better. But which is easier to fix right now? Regulate sugar/hfcs or fix the education system?
Most of societies problems can be solved with education but good luck getting more taxes from tax payers for education. You still need some regulation or else we all would have to read the ingredients of every product we buy. There will never be a corporation that would put its users health above its profits.
MrToughPants
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"it may also make you stupid, according to research out of California."
"rats"
"research needs to be done on the specific affects on humans."
"rats"
"research needs to be done on the specific affects on humans."
Thanks guy. I never gathered any of that from the thread titled "How sugar may make you stupid", nor from the similarly titled article.
MidgarBlowedUp
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Sugar = Carbohydrate
What actually makes people gain weight in the US = Carbohydrates.
What the US thinks makes people gain weight in the US = Sugar, Fats, and Stuff.
What the US tells you is good for you = Carbohydrates.
What makes you dumb sometimes = Diabetes.
What causes and contributes to Diabetes = Carbohydrates.
Quick, what is the opposite of sugar so I can become a genius.
What actually makes people gain weight in the US = Carbohydrates.
What the US thinks makes people gain weight in the US = Sugar, Fats, and Stuff.
What the US tells you is good for you = Carbohydrates.
What makes you dumb sometimes = Diabetes.
What causes and contributes to Diabetes = Carbohydrates.
Quick, what is the opposite of sugar so I can become a genius.
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Deleted member 17706
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Eat fat to grow brain. It's how we got here.
Trent Strong
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What actually makes people gain weight in the US = eating more calories than they burn.
Bullshit.
Trent Strong
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Well, they certainly aren't going to gain weight if they burn more calories than they eat.
As far as glutens go, I'd be more worried about genetically modified products.
That said: I cant get myself to eat brown-rice based bread so I just cut down my intake and will continue to do so till I find a more palatable solution
stop eating bread and grain all together? Its really not all that hard once you make it a habit. Personally, i think burgers, etc taste better without the bread/bun now anyways
Calorie intake is secondary to other factors.
I just don't see how that experiment concludes anything about sugar.
I mean you feed them a fatty acid deficient diet and then conclude that they performed poorly because of the sugar? I don't get it. Maybe it's all the sugar I consume.
Carbs aren't bad if you're insulin sensitive and move around a lot. Carbs are clearly bad news for people who aren't insulin sensitive and/or are sedentary.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
LOL
You've probably never even heard of ghrelin, leptin, incretin, glucagon, neurotensin and various other neuropeptides. You probably don't know what the POMC neuron is.
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