How would Bruce Lee, at his peak, fare in the UFC?
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An amusing anecdote:
Whilst training in grappling against some guy whose name I forget, he was outclassed and put into a lock.
"And how would you get out of this, Bruce?" the guy said.
"I'd bite you, of course."
Strangely enough, such obvious thinking wasn't common in martial arts practice at the time.
Whilst training in grappling against some guy whose name I forget, he was outclassed and put into a lock.
"And how would you get out of this, Bruce?" the guy said.
"I'd bite you, of course."
Strangely enough, such obvious thinking wasn't common in martial arts practice at the time.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Green Scar said:
That would be a powerful combinition, provided they were both motivated by some perceived social contretemp by Lee
Kung Fu Jedi
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Giard said:
I'm sorry, but the "account" of the 11-second knock-out is waaaayyy to over the top. Hit him 15 times and kicked him once in 11 seconds, then knocked him the length of the gym? Seriously?
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Well as I said, there are sources, it's up to you if you want to believe them or not. It is fact that the fight lasted 11 seconds, but of course you can't really believe a guy 100% that says "kicked him something like 15 times". As for the length of the gym, I'm guessing it was a small one.
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
Wing Chun + one inch punch?
So GSP's striking has been a key to his game since he's been in the UFC?agrajag said:
He's been practicing it all this time, in secret, so he could pull out his honed skills in one match to surprise someone? He didn't just learn to box from one of the best between fights and a TV show and *gasp* use ONE punch to destroy a title contender?
TheKaeptain
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DY_nasty said:
Stopped reading there.
DY_nasty said:
Even if you're not offensive on the ground, you have to be able to defend the takedown/sub attempts (see: C. Liddell)
Present champs:
Cain Velasquez - NCAA D1 wrestler/ Brown belt BJJ
Shogun - Black belt BJJ
Anderson Silva - Black belt BJJ
GSP - Black belt BJJ/tremendous wrestler
Frankie Edgar - NCAA Division I Wrestler/Purple belt BJJ
Aldo - Black belt BJJ
WickedAngel
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Bruce Li's entire fighting methodology dictated adaptation over rigid adherence to superfluous motion. If he needed to learn concepts of Jiu Jitsu to fight, he would have.
Interesting testimonial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgNg8yls4UA
Interesting candid revelation from a unguarded Chuck Norris by a 3rd party.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH7D8-eXsnM
In any biography about him, before he started doing movies, you read how he took on everyone and anyone in any style and he never lost. IMO, if he were around today, he would adapt and innovate faster than anyone and would have no qualms about fighting people in higher weight classes. He would certainly grapple if he needed to with the best of them, but he's so damn fast he wouldn't need to most of the time.
If were around today, it would look something like this, but less "flashy".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNt2FG9K_PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgNg8yls4UA
Interesting candid revelation from a unguarded Chuck Norris by a 3rd party.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH7D8-eXsnM
In any biography about him, before he started doing movies, you read how he took on everyone and anyone in any style and he never lost. IMO, if he were around today, he would adapt and innovate faster than anyone and would have no qualms about fighting people in higher weight classes. He would certainly grapple if he needed to with the best of them, but he's so damn fast he wouldn't need to most of the time.
If were around today, it would look something like this, but less "flashy".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNt2FG9K_PM
Dude Abides
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Could Bruce Lee design a Tapout shirt so tacky not even Bruce Lee could wear it?
Glowingmonx
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If he could find the motivation to train for it
TheKaeptain
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DY_nasty said:
You just showed you know nothing about GSP and his martial art back ground.
It was actually a jab and hook combo with a leading leg kick thrown to throw off the timing.
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Kraftwerk said:
DY_nasty said:
the game is evolving son, the guys fighting now are a lot better and more well rounded than the champs of even 5 years ago. In 5 years the fighters will also be a lot better than they are now. the sport is still in its infancy. you could say even 5 years ago it was just emerging from the primordial ooze.
look at some of the top guys 5 years ago:
Matt Hughes......1 dimensional wrestler
Chuck Liddell.....1 dimensional striker with great TDD
Mirko Crocop.....1 dimensional striker with great TDD
Gomi........chin + Ko power
Big Nog........awesome chin + propensity from pulling subs out of his ass
Tito Ortiz......1 dimensional wrestler
Frank Shamrock
Tim Sylvia
the guys coming out now are better than ever, and now that ppl can actually make money in MMA, its going to attract better and better athletes.
Look at the top guys now like GSP, Cain Velasquez, Ubereem, Frank Edgar, BJ Penn, Jon Jones, Shogun Rua, Rashad Evans, Phil Davis, JDS, Ben Askren, etc etc etc. all these guys would be absolute murderers 5 years ago. I mean look at that sham fight between matt hughes and royce gracie like 5 years ago, matt hughes toyed around with royce and beat him up.
Enosh
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that's beacose most martial arts your average person learns these days is designed more as a sport with clear rules so that no one gets seriously hurtSuairyu said:
that thinking ofcourse wan't common since biting is a big no-no and most people would give or try to give an answer in the framework of the rules
EraldoCoil
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MMAGAF, We have officially turned into sherdog.
Again, Bruce was training with grapplers while most of these guys were playing Punchout.yacobod said:
Not that I think Lee would be an MMA champion for the ages 'just because' but at the same time, MMA as a whole still has a LONG way to go as you've just said.
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I just remember seeing James Tony, who obviously has an excellent boxing arsenal get rushed to the ground and rendered helpless. Same with Kimbo Slice.DY_nasty said:
I'm not saying what Bruce did or didn't have, I'm just saying UFC is a sport where nobody will go their whole career undefeated and I don't see Bruce Lee being an exception to that.
Enlighten me, did a jab really NOT wreck a title contender?yacobod said:
Takedown defense and a solid ground game had a lot to do with that fight, but stop acting like a simple jab turning a title fight into a sad joke isn't embarrassing.
TheKaeptain
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DY_nasty said:
No, what I am saying is that you are acting like GSP had no striking when he went to Roach. He started out a striker and Roach just helped him improve.
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This makes no sense. Lee was 135 most of his life, and your'e saying he'd dominate at 205? He'd dominate at heavyweight? No. He would not, and if you think so, you're so far away from reality, there's no chance of even debating this with you unfortunately.Jeff-DSA said:
I think Bruce Lee counts as someone. The invincible iron man who'd never lose. Hurt his back weight lifting.Stitch said:
TheKaeptain
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He is a Kyokushin black belt.DY_nasty said:
Bas Rutten's take on this question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWZBSBab-Es
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWZBSBab-Es
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