Zabka said:
Oh god, I laughed so hard!
Zabka said:
Jenga said:I meant by video recording
obviously there are people who've seen Lee fight irl
There are sources. :/Slo said:I've got a book that says a cow can jump over the moon.
Because every UFC champ has had a dominating ground game... :jakncokeDark Octave said:UFC is all about the ground game. Without a ground game Bruce would get his ass beat. With a ground game he'd be just as good as anyone else.
Green Scar said:No smack, but with Grant tag assist
DY_nasty said:please... That was GSP's first time ever training seriously with a striker and look what happened? A few months with Freddie Roach and the guy who perfected snoozing is dominating guys with one punch and take down defense. A real striker? Not just a washed up boxer trying to pay child support would have the entire MMA rethinking their stance on' ground game! but he doesn't have a ground game blaaaaa'
Its arrogant and silly. Ground defense and takedown defense can be learned much easier than striking - and most of the striking in MMA is just downright insulting to watch.
Giard said:For those who say no one has seen him fight, there's a nice section called "Fight history" on Wikipedia. Some excerpts...
Physical feats:
As I said in the OP, Jeet Kune Do is not one-dimensional. Punching, grappling, trapping and kicking were trained equally. Countering was a huge part. He wasn't just an actor as some of you are saying. Stop with the Goku stuff, lol
No need to be an idiot.spats said:Bruce Lee would snap everybody's neck in the blink of an eye. UFC is nothing but sweaty dick punching.
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Kung Fu Jedi said:I'm sorry, but the "account" of the 11-second knock-out is waaaayyy to over the top. Hit him 15 times and kicked him once in 11 seconds, then knocked him the length of the gym? Seriously?
Kung Fu Jedi said:I'm sorry, but the "account" of the 11-second knock-out is waaaayyy to over the top. Hit him 15 times and kicked him once in 11 seconds, then knocked him the length of the gym? Seriously?
So GSP's striking has been a key to his game since he's been in the UFC?agrajag said:That's the best way to describe the above post.
charsace said:No need to be an idiot.
DY_nasty said:please... That was GSP's first time ever training seriously with a striker and look what happened? A few months with Freddie Roach and the guy who perfected snoozing is dominating guys with one punch and take down defense. A real striker? Not just a washed up boxer trying to pay child support would have the entire MMA rethinking their stance on' ground game! but he doesn't have a ground game blaaaaa'
Its arrogant and silly. Ground defense and takedown defense can be learned much easier than striking - and most of the striking in MMA is just downright insulting to watch.
DY_nasty said:Because every UFC champ has had a dominating ground game... :jakncoke
DY_nasty said:So GSP's striking has been a key to his game since he's been in the UFC?
He's been practicing it all this time, in secret, so he could pull out his honed skills in one match to surprise someone? He didn't just learn to box from one of the best and *gasp* use ONE punch to destroy a title contender?
Anyone as good as Roach?CaptYamato said:Stopped reading there.
When a guy shooting for a title can't do shit with a jab, it says a lot about the entire field...Slo said:All GSP proved in his fight against Koshchek was that he's a better striker than Kosh.
Whoa man, we wan to knock them out not outright kill them.Lebron said:Yup. He may also throw in a finger point for good measure.
Depends on how big the gym is. And 15 times in 11 seconds is not unusual for a top level boxer.Kung Fu Jedi said:I'm sorry, but the "account" of the 11-second knock-out is waaaayyy to over the top. Hit him 15 times and kicked him once in 11 seconds, then knocked him the length of the gym? Seriously?
DY_nasty said:Anyone as good as Roach?
Fuck no
When a guy shooting for a title can't do shit with a jab, it says a lot about the entire field...
Kraftwerk said:Badassery in jpg format.
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Dude, what a fucking [u]champion[/u].
DY_nasty said:Because every UFC champ has had a dominating ground game... :jakncoke
that's beacose most martial arts your average person learns these days is designed more as a sport with clear rules so that no one gets seriously hurtSuairyu said:An amusing anecdote:
Whilst training in grappling against some guy whose name I forget, he was outclassed and put into a lock.
"And how would you get out of this, Bruce?" the guy said.
"I'd bite you, of course."
Strangely enough, such obvious thinking wasn't common in martial arts practice at the time.
DY_nasty said:When a guy shooting for a title can't do shit with a jab, it says a lot about the entire field...
Are you really saying that Roach isn't the best he, or anyone in UFC, has ever trained with when it comes to striking? He's one of the best to ever do it.CaptYamato said:You just showed you know nothing about GSP and his martial art back ground.
DY_nasty said:So GSP's striking has been a key to his game since he's been in the UFC?
He's been practicing it all this time, in secret, so he could pull out his honed skills in one match to surprise someone? He didn't just learn to box from one of the best between fights and a TV show and *gasp* use ONE punch to destroy a title contender?
Again, Bruce was training with grapplers while most of these guys were playing Punchout.yacobod said:the game is evolving son, the guys fighting now are a lot better and more well rounded than the champs of even 5 years ago. In 5 years the fighters will also be a lot better than they are now. the sport is still in its infancy. you could say even 5 years ago it was just emerging from the primordial ooze.
look at some of the top guys 5 years ago:
Matt Hughes......1 dimensional wrestler
Chuck Liddell.....1 dimensional striker with great TDD
Mirko Crocop.....1 dimensional striker with great TDD
Gomi........chin + Ko power
Big Nog........awesome chin + propensity from pulling subs out of his ass
Tito Ortiz......1 dimensional wrestler
Frank Shamrock
Tim Sylvia
the guys coming out now are better than ever, and now that ppl can actually make money in MMA, its going to attract better and better athletes.
Look at the top guys now like GSP, Cain Velasquez, Ubereem, Frank Edgar, BJ Penn, Jon Jones, Shogun Rua, Rashad Evans, Phil Davis, JDS, Ben Askren, etc etc etc. all these guys would be absolute murderers 5 years ago. I mean look at that sham fight between matt hughes and royce gracie like 5 years ago, matt hughes toyed around with royce and beat him up.
I just remember seeing James Tony, who obviously has an excellent boxing arsenal get rushed to the ground and rendered helpless. Same with Kimbo Slice.DY_nasty said:Because every UFC champ has had a dominating ground game... :jakncoke
Enlighten me, did a jab really NOT wreck a title contender?yacobod said:please don't post about something you clearly don't know shit about, go back to the nba threads or something.
DY_nasty said:Are you really saying that Roach isn't the best he, or anyone in UFC, has ever trained with when it comes to striking? He's one of the best to ever do it.
This is the arrogant shit I'm talking about...
Since when was GSP primarily a striker?CaptYamato said:No, what I am saying is that you are acting like GSP had no striking when he went to Roach. He started out a striker and Roach just helped him improve.
Iadien said:Bruce was a great person, an ambassador ... But unless he trained to fight for the UFC, why would anyone assume that he would fair well?
that movie was a huge piece of shit and no one broke his back.DMczaf said:My Bruce Lee knowledge only goes as far as Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, but according to that he would get his back broken.
This makes no sense. Lee was 135 most of his life, and your'e saying he'd dominate at 205? He'd dominate at heavyweight? No. He would not, and if you think so, you're so far away from reality, there's no chance of even debating this with you unfortunately.Jeff-DSA said:If you took a man of Bruce Lee's ability and gave him access to today's techniques, he'd dominate in whatever weight class he wanted. People forget that he was unnaturally fast and he hit very, very hard. Techniques are more advanced today, but he'd learn them, perfect them, and probably improve upon them just as he did back then.
I think Bruce Lee counts as someone. The invincible iron man who'd never lose. Hurt his back weight lifting.Stitch said:that movies was a huge piece of shit and no one broke his back.
He is a Kyokushin black belt.DY_nasty said:Since when was GSP primarily a striker?
Outside of the ring he most certainly would. In non-sports conditions size is much less of a factor than you'd think.Freshmaker said:This makes no sense. Lee was 135 most of his life, and your'e saying he'd dominate at 205? He'd dominate at heavyweight? No. He would not, and if you think so, you're so far away from reality, there's no chance of even debating this with you unfortunately.
DY_nasty said:Since when was GSP primarily a striker?
Honest question, do you think that's better than time with Freddie Roach?CaptYamato said:He is a Kyokushin black belt.