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[Final Verdict]

Sighs,

I don't like trump, but in my opinion, I seriously don't see how shutting down traffic and people trying to get to his rally is going to help defeat him. All it is doing is giving him more media coverage, motivating his hardcore supporters, and making him and his supporters look like a victim because "his right to free speech is being taken away (as some media are telling it)".

 

[SpookyFries]

I was down in Salt Lake City last night and didn't notice anything unusual.

I saw a huge parade of people over by 600s around 6pm last night and there were police all over on the sidewalks

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Trump supporters, the scum of this country, and there are a whole lot of them.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Sighs,

I don't like trump, but in my opinion, I seriously don't see how shutting down traffic and people trying to get to his rally is going to help defeat him. All it is doing is giving him more media coverage, motivating his hardcore supporters, and making him and his supporters look like a victim because "his right to free speech is being taken away (as some media are telling it)".

The problem is that the people who are coming out and supporting Trump are probably people who would have supported him in the voting booths. On the other hand, creating visibility of the Trump problem could engage people who otherwise would not see it as a big deal to oppose him, or generally not appreciate the risk of Trump.

 

[Steel]

The problem is that the people who are coming out and supporting Trump are probably people who would have supported him in the voting booths. On the other hand, creating visibility of the Trump problem could engage people who otherwise would not see it as a big deal to oppose him, or generally not appreciate the risk of Trump.

It's pretty damn visible already. You can't go two minutes on any major news channel without hearing about something Trump did. Protests have already helped do that, and I support that, but I'm pretty sure he would be center-stage of the 24hr news cycle anyway.

 

[Final Verdict]

The problem is that the people who are coming out and supporting Trump are probably people who would have supported him in the voting booths. On the other hand, creating visibility of the Trump problem could engage people who otherwise would not see it as a big deal to oppose him, or generally not appreciate the risk of Trump.

That is true, and it could potentially hurt him big time in the general election, but as far as the GOP primary go, it seems to (at best) be having no effect on the voters decision, and it hurts the other candidates as they get less news coverage to get their message out.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

Uh people blocking traffic makes you want to vote the way they want you to vote? I've never wanted Trump to win so badly in my life.

You sir, are a full blown drongo

 

[perfectchaos007]

Donald Trump Teases a President Bid During a 1988 Oprah Show

On Letterman in 1988 too. He said if he were to be president, he would make the USA a "winner"

https://youtu.be/GmNN2MCJ-7U?t=23m57s

 

[cpp_is_king]

I love this whole stupid "someone's going to die if they block traffic" argument you think the protesters are going to fucking block an ambulance? They will let it through.

What a poor argument.

Dude the entire road was backed up for miles, lol. How would the ambulance even get through?

 

[rjinaz]

Dude the entire road was backed up for miles, lol. How would the ambulance even get through?

Could drive down the opposite side of the road. It was clear. With sirens on of course.

That said, unless the accident occured near the block, Fountain Hills has its own hospital and the other side of the road is basically Scottsdale, so it;s not a very likely scenario.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Gees, I mean the protestor doesn't directly do anything to that man at all, it's instant.!

He was wearing a KKK outfit yea? , that's provocation enough

 

[rjinaz]

He was wearing a KKK outfit yea? , that's provocation enough

Was he? I know the woman was. And nah, that's not enough to sucker punch a guy, especially when it should have been obvious sarcasm.

 

[Polari]

Was he? I know the woman was. And nah, that's not enough to sucker punch a guy, especially when it should have been obvious sarcasm.

Sarcasm? More like trivialising racist imagery. It doesn't justify it though.

 

[Cimarron]

Let's ignore every other racist Republican that's been running and attack Trump. Cruz is racist. Kasich is racist. Romney is racist. Let's not act like gerry mandering isn't a racist act. They just used code words and different language.

Exactly.

 

[JABEE]

Protest and disruption is literally how every major turning point in our history happened.

Violence and war also played a major role in every major change of power and political revolution.

Are you stating you are for those things as well?

 

[A Link to the Past]

Violence and war also played a major role in every major change of power and political revolution.

Are you stating you are for those things as well?

So for instance, accumulation of wealth, to any degree, by any person, is abhorrent because some people accumulate it through abhorrent means?

Also, comparing protesting and disruption to violence and war kind of demonstrates that you may not understand either.

 

[JABEE]

So for instance, accumulation of wealth, to any degree, by any person, is abhorrent because some people accumulate it through abhorrent means?

Also, comparing protesting and disruption to violence and war kind of demonstrates that you may not understand either.

I am not the person comparing those things. I am stating that saying this thing leads to this does not make the former virtuous. The means matter and the human suffering should matter.

Also, it's very extraordinary when large changes occur from non-violent protesting and disruption.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I am not the person comparing those things. I am stating that saying this thing leads to this does not make the former virtuous. The means matter and the human suffering should matter.

So disruption creates human suffering?

 

[JABEE]

So disruption creates human suffering?

On a minimal level, it does. I was also responding to what I believed was an inference that the ends always justify the means for these situations.

I believe the American Civil War was justified if it meant ending slavery and uniting the country.

This is getting completely off-topic though.

As for the Trump shutdown, it's a legitimate form of protest that surely pissed people off. It's illegal, but in many ways protests often have to step on laws, because what is right in one's mind is not always right according to the legislature or the courts.

 

[A Link to the Past]

On a minimal level, it does. I was also responding to what I believed was an inference that the ends always justify the means for these situations.

I believe the American Civil War was justified if it meant ending slavery and uniting the country.

This is getting completely off-topic though.

As for the Trump shutdown, it's a legitimate form of protest that surely pissed people off. It's illegal, but in many ways protests often have to step on laws, because what is right in one's mind is not always right according to the legislature or the courts.

Do you feel that the harm caused by disruption is greater than the harm that caused the disruption to occur in the first place?