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I just started and I'm game manual challenged (I have it I'm just lazy)...can someone tell me how you get the items you pick up onto the home base map to create more characters?
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Drinky Crow
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Talk to Zetta, select Summon, push right on the D-Pad.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Drinky Crow said:
gracias.
also...if I happen to prefer many of the small and not small issues that this changes from Disgaea (gridless map, lack of color titles) is it likely I would also prefer Phantom Brave?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Musashi Wins! said:
Phantom brave makes you confine your characters to items on the battle field.. I personally did not like it compared to Makai Kingdom.
To me it seemed as if it made it much harder for my characters to progress. To make matters more interesting/annoying, your characters are on the map for only a certain number of turns.
Edit:
Also, there is virtually no comedy (in at least the part I played). So expect a much more serious game.
SatelliteOfLove
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Suikoguy said:
I liked it; not only did you get strategy from confinement bonuses/penalties, but it also forced people weaned on powering up Laharl from going "insert XP + honking big sword A into Ash = win". I'm not far enough into MK to give an informed opinion yet, but things are promising here, too.
SatelliteOfLove
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sp0rsk said:
Nope. Didn't feel like tweaking the shit out of a weapon for her s-l-o-w-l-y advancing skills and low SP in all "classes" except Healing and Time/Space. The end boss? Made it to him at 52 thru 55. Hello, Dungeon Monk! :lol
WasabiKing
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OK, just picked it up yesterday, I am ready to move up to the next rank of my female apprentice, but I don't know how. Do I have to sacrifice my character? I take it it's not good to get attached to a character...
Also, how do I change leaders?
Also, how do I change leaders?
WasabiKing said:
you can reincarnate characters into higher classes by making them into abuilding or just simple reincarnation. They dont really change persay but they have a chance to get their base stats increased. (do this by reincarnating them into items with stars)
You change leaders by making a wish.
Jumpman Jr.
Member
I can't throw my characters. I'll disarm my weapon, get the Lift command, but can't lift any of my crew. What am I doing wrong? (Yes, I looked elsewhere)
WasabiKing
Member
I must not be far enough to create buildings just yet. Great times, loving the game so far
It's also good to reincarnate through different classes as you keep ALL skills aquired with each one.
Phantom Brave rocked, but it was broken. Didn't really need to confine anything towards the end of the game, I just went around whacking everyone with marona for 20000+ damage per hit.
EDIT: Jumpman, remember you can't lift a character that's holding something.
Phantom Brave rocked, but it was broken. Didn't really need to confine anything towards the end of the game, I just went around whacking everyone with marona for 20000+ damage per hit.
EDIT: Jumpman, remember you can't lift a character that's holding something.
MrAngryFace
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I hope a lot of people bought this game at 50 bux.
flarkminator
Member
Jumpman Jr. said:
Both you, and the person you are picking up have to un-equip your weapons.
Jumpman Jr.
Member
thanks, MoxManiac and flarkminator. I'm now toying with buildings.
And, yes, bought this full price and the DoubleJump book.
And, yes, bought this full price and the DoubleJump book.
WasabiKing
Member
Does trading in count? 
I bought the Doublejump book as well, very cool
I bought the Doublejump book as well, very cool
MrAngryFace
Banned
Trade ins count!
WasabiKing
Member
MrAngryFace said:
Well, I don't think I need to say that everyone should get this game (cause it's been said already) but if you do, try not to get so attached to your characters.
Well, this game was sitting on my livingroom table, saying "Put down Metroid Prime 2--you know you want me." So I did.
I'm liking it so far, more than Phantom Brave and possibly as much as Disgaea. I like its lack of brokenness (as far as I can tell), and making Zetta so weak pretty much took care of the only way to really exploit Phantom Brave. MAF is spot-on in that the gameplay takes the best things about Disgaea and the best things about Phantom Brave and mixes them together (but I personally prefer the grid-based movement of Disgaea to the free-roaming movement of PB and MK).
The AI seems smarter in MK--not so many boneheaded moves, enemies gang up on weak characters, and enemies space themselves out so as not to be simultaneously hit by low-level spells with small radii of attack.
It's pretty difficult compared to the other Nippon Ichi games as well. How funny is it when the enemy invites a building, and more enemies start jumping out of that building like clowns out of a clown car, and each one of those enemies hits for a permanent loss of an XP level every time it hits? Not too funny, if your strongest character is at level 5.
That said, this had better be the last time that Nippon Ichi uses this engine--they'll get no more money from me until they significantly upgrade it. There is just too much information on the screen now for it to display while still being readable. If you have four or five characters clumped together on a map with a lot of hills, and a couple of buildings nearby, good luck figuring out what the hell's going on.
I'm liking it so far, more than Phantom Brave and possibly as much as Disgaea. I like its lack of brokenness (as far as I can tell), and making Zetta so weak pretty much took care of the only way to really exploit Phantom Brave. MAF is spot-on in that the gameplay takes the best things about Disgaea and the best things about Phantom Brave and mixes them together (but I personally prefer the grid-based movement of Disgaea to the free-roaming movement of PB and MK).
The AI seems smarter in MK--not so many boneheaded moves, enemies gang up on weak characters, and enemies space themselves out so as not to be simultaneously hit by low-level spells with small radii of attack.
It's pretty difficult compared to the other Nippon Ichi games as well. How funny is it when the enemy invites a building, and more enemies start jumping out of that building like clowns out of a clown car, and each one of those enemies hits for a permanent loss of an XP level every time it hits? Not too funny, if your strongest character is at level 5.
That said, this had better be the last time that Nippon Ichi uses this engine--they'll get no more money from me until they significantly upgrade it. There is just too much information on the screen now for it to display while still being readable. If you have four or five characters clumped together on a map with a lot of hills, and a couple of buildings nearby, good luck figuring out what the hell's going on.
This game ownz. I played it for almost 5 hours straight earlier. Screw going outside I'm staying in to play some more.
I saw my friend play Disgaea, and the dialogue was hilarious. Makai Kingdom reminds me of Disgaea as far as story goes. WACKY OVER THE TOP stuff. Which I like to see once in awhile. He also had Phantom Brave, which seemed to have better gameplay mechanics but the story sucked in comparison. Too drab. Makai Kingdom seems to mix the story element of Disgaea with the gameplay tweaks of Phantom Brave.
I do want to find Disgaea now, though to play myself!
I saw my friend play Disgaea, and the dialogue was hilarious. Makai Kingdom reminds me of Disgaea as far as story goes. WACKY OVER THE TOP stuff. Which I like to see once in awhile. He also had Phantom Brave, which seemed to have better gameplay mechanics but the story sucked in comparison. Too drab. Makai Kingdom seems to mix the story element of Disgaea with the gameplay tweaks of Phantom Brave.
I do want to find Disgaea now, though to play myself!WasabiKing
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I've always found stealing items and selling them raises money pretty well. Get a UFO for your thief, and be sure to save some empty slots so you can store these items.
In addition to stealing items, you can play through free dungeons, where expensive items are just lying around waiting to be picked up.
Makai Kingdom is the first of the Nippon Ichi games in which I haven't almost immediately amassed far more money than I had any idea how to spend. I'm not experiencing enough of a cash shortage to have to grind in order to get money, but cash is still scarce.
Makai Kingdom is the first of the Nippon Ichi games in which I haven't almost immediately amassed far more money than I had any idea how to spend. I'm not experiencing enough of a cash shortage to have to grind in order to get money, but cash is still scarce.
I think Makai is definately worse then Disgaea i think. Some things are better, combat for definate. The lack of good combos sucks but the inclusion of vehicles, buildings etc make it the best system of the NI games.
The plots overall abit lacking, and not really much development with the characters, my biggest issue is just it seems alot less fleshed out with very little else but the main quests, the free dungeons seem abit shallow, and while the bonus characters etc are cool, the effort it takes to get them is pretty high, and by that time you would have beaten the main quest 10x over, with nothing but free dungeons inbetween. Atleast you had the option to make the main quest harder in disgaea and up the levels of the main missions. Being stuck in free dungeons to level from 60-70+ sucks. Considering you mostly start getting the bonus chars at 150+.
Whole thing didn't feel too complete to me really, still good though.
The plots overall abit lacking, and not really much development with the characters, my biggest issue is just it seems alot less fleshed out with very little else but the main quests, the free dungeons seem abit shallow, and while the bonus characters etc are cool, the effort it takes to get them is pretty high, and by that time you would have beaten the main quest 10x over, with nothing but free dungeons inbetween. Atleast you had the option to make the main quest harder in disgaea and up the levels of the main missions. Being stuck in free dungeons to level from 60-70+ sucks. Considering you mostly start getting the bonus chars at 150+.
Whole thing didn't feel too complete to me really, still good though.
You know what sucks?
When you're ten levels into a free dungeon that you're slightly underleveled for, the first extension hits everybody with confusion and incapacitates all your healers, the second extension also hits everybody with confusion and incapacitates all your healers, one of the enemies takes out the one character you have that's able to gency out (by the way, the fact that gencying out destroys dungeons in this game is bullshit), and another character lands a hit on the Sacred Tome, which wipes out five of your characters in one go. Needless to say I didn't make it out of that alive. There's 45 minutes of levelling that I can't get back.
I know that's what you sign up for when you play a Nippon Ichi game, but that doesn't mean I like it.
When you're ten levels into a free dungeon that you're slightly underleveled for, the first extension hits everybody with confusion and incapacitates all your healers, the second extension also hits everybody with confusion and incapacitates all your healers, one of the enemies takes out the one character you have that's able to gency out (by the way, the fact that gencying out destroys dungeons in this game is bullshit), and another character lands a hit on the Sacred Tome, which wipes out five of your characters in one go. Needless to say I didn't make it out of that alive. There's 45 minutes of levelling that I can't get back.
I know that's what you sign up for when you play a Nippon Ichi game, but that doesn't mean I like it.
I got stuck in a 33 level dungeon too before I realized it. Crazy stuff. On Level 10 there is a item called Divon (I think) that lets you teleport 30 dungeons ahead. I got lucky and one popped up and that is what I did.
Well I just beat the game in 28 hours. Got the good ending. I gotta say I'm a litte disappointed in the meat of the main game. I know there will be a ton of side stuff to replay but only 9 chapters, which go quick, kind of sucks. Good game, but it seems short compared to Disgaea.
Well I just beat the game in 28 hours. Got the good ending. I gotta say I'm a litte disappointed in the meat of the main game. I know there will be a ton of side stuff to replay but only 9 chapters, which go quick, kind of sucks. Good game, but it seems short compared to Disgaea.