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I hate Canadians that hate Americans

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Seems like everyone - my family/friends - up here hates the USA.
It's starting to really bug me.

It's just so damn ignorant. I have friends who, in the face of the whole Hurricane Katrina thing, call Americans stupid and that they deserved it. wtf.

True, Americans are led by a retard. True, many Americans are pretty dense. True, Americans are a fair bit uglier than their Canadian cousins. But to generalise the entire country is just plain dumb, especially considering that they do a lot of good things. Not to mention that Canadians, probably more than any country, rely on the States for everything from economic well-being to entertainment.

Any other Canadians feel this way?
 
Canadians need to realize half of the country wouldn't mind what Canadians have.
It's really unfortunate that so many of you guys hate us all.
 
I only hate certain Americans and only when I travel. The ones that bitch about things that are obviously not what they are used to when they are in the States. Things like the food tasting different, it being too hot, no one speaking english, etc. You knew things would be different before you left so why complain?

Whenever I'm in the States I'm always treated extremely well by the locals.

Governmentally and religiously its obvious it isn't the same everywhere and not all Americans are fanatics, just the fanatics make for good news.
 
Fuzzy said:
But Bret was screwed. :(
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When I hear a Canadian say they hate Americans, I assume they're generalizing, and when I assume they're generalizing negatives, I assume they're most likely referring to Bush and/or their world attitude, and since the majority responsibly for those two primers are Republicans, I just group them as the sole generalization.
 
I listen to conservative-dominated talk radio, so that ensures I get a healthy combination of both extremes.

"THE AMERICANS ARE DA BEST PEOPLE EVER TO GRACE THIS EARTH! WE SHOULD BOW DOWN TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY THEIR HAT. BRIAN MULRONEY + RONALD REAGAN = MIGHT MORPHIN POWER POLITICIAN THAT LOWERS TAXES!"

"THE AMERICANS, RELIGION, AND GEORGE BUSH ARE THE DEMONIC TRINITY OF SATAN. WE SHOULD SHOULD FUCKING INVADE THOSE FAGGOTS FOR THEIR INTOLERANCE AND IMPERIALISTIC VIEWS. FUCK U AMERICA"

Most people up here aren't overtly anti-American, which can be more annoying than if they were: constantly hearing little jabs or sarcastic remarks about America wears on your more than the most vocal anti-Americans.
 
Guzim said:
Tell them to get over Survivor Series 1997.
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they are obviously all jealous because Bret was so boring, while the USA was home to his superior rival, the showstopper, the heartbreak kid, the king of catch as catch can.
 
Eh, sadly people are always going to generalize. I know that when i was over in Europe last year, a few people would give me shit for being American and i just ignored them as they didnt know me. However, the overwhelming majority of people i met didnt give a shit where I was from and actually tried to get to know me personally. Imagine that! Bottom line, if people are so quick to judge you based on nationality then they really need to get out in the real world and see how different people can be.
 
Pochacco said:
Seems like everyone - my family/friends - up here hates the USA.
It's starting to really bug me.

It's just so damn ignorant. I have friends who, in the face of the whole Hurricane Katrina thing, call Americans stupid and that they deserved it. wtf.

True, Americans are led by a retard. True, many Americans are pretty dense. True, Americans are a fair bit uglier than their Canadian cousins. But to generalise the entire country is just plain dumb, especially considering that they do a lot of good things. Not to mention that Canadians, probably more than any country, rely on the States for everything from economic well-being to entertainment.

Any other Canadians feel this way?
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It sounds like your friend's a total asshole to say that. It also sounds like, given the 2nd half of your post, that you might have some conceptions you need to deal with yourself. That being said, what I dislike about the U.S. isn't its people, it's the government, and how it has acted. I think that's the way most Canadians feel ... or at least I hope that the government's where the bulk of any existing hate is directed.

Interesting point, our cattle industry is looking to rely less on the U.S. market. Trying to drop from 90% reliance to 52%. I think it's a good thing, especially given the almost childish way the U.S. has acted on the trade and commerse front (read: WTO & soft lumber). I for one would like to see a more international focus across all industries. Might give us a bit more backbone.

Comfort_Eagle said:
Eh, sadly people are always going to generalize. I know that when i was over in Europe last year, a few people would give me shit for being American and i just ignored them as they didnt know me. However, the overwhelming majority of people i met didnt give a shit where I was from and actually tried to get to know me personally. Imagine that! Bottom line, if people are so quick to judge you based on nationality then they really need to get out in the real world and see how different people can be.
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That's so true, and applies to everything. A great example would be myself and religion. I find it to be repulsive as an organization, but on an individual basis (save when the believes are pushed in my face) I can find many good people that are religious.

OpinionatedCyborg said:
Most people up here aren't overtly anti-American, which can be more annoying than if they were: constantly hearing little jabs or sarcastic remarks about America wears on your more than the most vocal anti-Americans.
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The jabs from both sides are a bit annoying. Everytime I'm watching a stand up act on television, and they start pulling from the "generic bag of stereotypes" for either us Canadians or Americans I just roll my eyes. I mean, "OMG so true, our beer is best WOO!" Give me a break.
 
The last time I was in Canada some smug asshole said, "sorry about your President." I LOL'D. It was totally random.
 
loxy said:
The last time I was in Canada some smug asshole said, "sorry about your President." I LOL'D. It was totally random.
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:lol

We really are sorry you guys have to put up with that though. Only a couple more years.
 
Blackace said:
in north AMERICA... booyah!!
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hence the country's title "United States of AMERICA". The countries main name is the United States and AMERICA refers to North America, the continent the country is located on.
 
Hey, Wisconsin almost voted for Bush. (I certainly did.)

If you gotta hate, spread it over smooth across the whole country, like philadelphia cream cheese.
 
Warm Machine said:
hence the country's title "United States of AMERICA". The countries main name is the United States and AMERICA refers to North America, the continent the country is located on.
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Yeah, and Mexico is actually "United Mexican States", but nobody bitches about calling it just "Mexico" :P
 
It's not about disliking Americans. I mean so many individual americans are amazing people. It's the representation the country as a whole portrays (whether by government, "values", education, etc) that I dislike. I dislike America, not Americans.
 
Spruce Moose said:
I like most Americans, but I hate Canadians that hate Canadians that hate Americans.
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:lol I honestly don't have a problem with Canadians who dislike Bush or have a problem with certain features about America.

It's the sort of smug "we are better" anti-Americanism that you run into in universities, among egghead lefties, Council of Canadian types, and the more under the radar anti-Americanism found the CBC talk shows that I dislike.
 
I was once listening to a discussion in a classroom here with the Ambassador from Malta. (I know, I know... just hear me out.) He was the Maltese ambassador to the UN and was in Michigan visiting a friend and stopped by to talk to our class. We were asking him some questions and one of them was about the difference in the US outside and in. He said that througout most of Europe, and the world at that, there's this huge stereotype that Americans are arrogant, uncaring, spoiled brats, more or less. He said that he was absolutely floored that when he actually came over here, we're actually a very kind and warm people(s?).

I kind of take pride in that. I don't know many people who actually come over here, either from Canada, Europe, or the barbarian tribes, who hate the people once they're here. Even the few middle-eastern muslims really loved the people. Not the government, but the people.
 
whytemyke said:
I was once listening to a discussion in a classroom here with the Ambassador from Malta. (I know, I know... just hear me out.) He was the Maltese ambassador to the UN and was in Michigan visiting a friend and stopped by to talk to our class. We were asking him some questions and one of them was about the difference in the US outside and in. He said that througout most of Europe, and the world at that, there's this huge stereotype that Americans are arrogant, uncaring, spoiled brats, more or less. He said that he was absolutely floored that when he actually came over here, we're actually a very kind and warm people(s?).

I kind of take pride in that. I don't know many people who actually come over here, either from Canada, Europe, or the barbarian tribes, who hate the people once they're here. Even the few middle-eastern muslims really loved the people. Not the government, but the people.
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It was the same for me. In Japan, while there is always a great admiraiton for the US, the flip side is also the distrust of Americans as conquerors of the country who is still have bases in the country. When I travelled through the US, I really enjoyed my stay there. Actually more so than I did when I travelled Canada, granted, both countries are more similar than Canadians would like to admit.

What was really different about Americans is that well, they have this great belief in themselves and their country. It may come off as arrogant, but I find Canadians and probably many Europeans are very insecure about their place in the world and they see this giant called the United States moving around. It's in many ways a natural reaction to power. If you're in a room with this big guy who has a lot of money and calls the shots, you're going to dislike him on some very base level.

Back to my story. When I was stranded in Maryland after Sept 11, I had an opportunity to just watch how Americans reacted. In Canada and elsewhere, they would likely simplify it and mock it as patriotism because Canadians in particular lack any kind of genuine patriotism and define themselve mostly by what they are NOT.

The kind of Patriotism I saw really floored me. It was a deep belief in the country, the people and the ideal. I recall the line from Gladiator that goes something like "Rome is an idea which you can only whisper" or something to that effect. And what I witnessed was the kind of idea functioning on some basic level. You can't put it into words because it doesn't do it justice. You really have to see it to believe it. It's easy to label most Americans as flag waving, overly patriotic and insular. But I hear that most often from people who live in countries who don't have a good solid identity and is insecure of their national ideal. People from countries with strong national identies, like China and Japan don't find anything wrong with the flag waving at all. In fact, it's something that's quite common in many countries and that's the great thing with Americans.

They wave flags to honor the country, not in opposition to another country. Left wing commentators usually use the logic that American politicians need to paint an enemy to get the population riled up, but compared to the flag burning type of patriotisim and its more polite counterpart in Canada where people wave the Canadian flag as a reaction against American power, the flag wavign I observed was a show of unity and support for the country. Even though there was a lot of feeling back them to bomb someplace, people weren't waving flags to start a war even if they supported the idea. They are separate things in my mind. Flag waving in the US is an act of being an American rather than an act of hating someone else.
 
The Patriotism in the US is blind, that's the problem.

It's one thing to be proud because of your accomplishments...but another to be proud because you are told to.

Nationalism is a sickness, IMO. Just as religion is being used as a politial tool to divide human beings, nationalism is used.

With all this talk about all the "console hate" on the gaming forum...it's just cause for divide. In the end we're all fans of videogames.
 
I'm Canadian so I know the types of people you're referring to. I'm definitely not one of them. I only hate republicans. UHAUAHAUHAU

libruls, too
 
Ninja Scooter said:
they are obviously all jealous because Bret was so boring, while the USA was home to his superior rival, the showstopper, the heartbreak kid, the king of catch as catch can.
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You forgot "The Master of Skinning the Cat"

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Fight for Freeform said:
Nationalism is a sickness, IMO. Just as religion is being used as a politial tool to divide human beings, nationalism is used.
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This is true, but it goes both ways. I've seen both be used for very base, awful things like war, racism, etc. But I've also seen both do amazing things. Look at the US in WW2. Do you think that we could have gone from a depression to the strongest country in the world if it weren't for that kind of patriotism? And look at the good things that churches do (though I'll get flamed for mentioning it). Both are akin to fire... you can either use them for good or evil. When they're used for evil, things can be ugly enough to make us all ashamed... but when they're used for good? it can truly be something to see.
 
ManDudeChild said:
I find it to be repulsive as an organization, but on an individual basis (save when the believes are pushed in my face) I can find many good people that are religious.
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I had that EXACT thought in the shower this morning
 
Late one night I saw a commercial for a CD containing a number of select Reagan speeches...

The commercial featured a grandfather and his grand children sitting around the fire place listening to Reagan yell, "Mr. Gorbachev (sp?), TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"

I LOLed at it for half an hour because it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen.

Nationalism and jingoism are like the two things I loath most.
 
Drozmight said:
Late one night I saw a commercial for a CD containing a number of select Reagan speeches...

The commercial featured a grandfather and his grand children sitting around the fire place listening to Reagan yell, "Mr. Gorbachev (sp?), TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"

I LOLed at it for half an hour because it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen.
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Reagan Smash! Reagan Smash!
 
Spruce Moose said:
I like most Americans, but I hate Canadians that hate Canadians that hate Americans.
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Yeah, well, I'm an American who hates Canadians who hate Canadians who hate Canadians who hate Americans. Take THAT!

;)
 
Greenpanda said:
Yeah, well, I'm an American who hates Canadians who hate Canadians who hate Canadians who hate Americans. Take THAT!

;)
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I'll see your comment and raise you...

I am a Canadian who hates Americans who hate Canadians who hate Canadians who hate Canadians who hate Americans who hate other Americans who hate something, something something... um... FREEDOM?
 
Guzim said:
Tell them to get over Survivor Series 1997.
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:lol :lol :lol

A lot of this hatred stems from the 2001-2003 period. Canadians didn't feel that America appreciated us enough for opening up our airports to potential flying bombs after all the US airports were shut down. We not only took flights in, but kept US residents in homes and hotels for as long as it took at vastly reduced rates, or even free. And when Bush was thanking the entire world but Canada the Thursday of that week, it rubbed a lot of people here the wrong way.

But we put that aside...went with them into Afghanistan, to try and capture the most wanted man in the world. Of course he stopped being that sometime in early January for reasons still unexplained, but that's a different issue.

Then 2003 comes up, and the US are looking for suckers, I mean allies to help them fight Iraq. Canada refuses. And all of a sudden yankee pipsqueaks of all stripes from talk show hosts to actors come out of the woodwork and curse everything about us because he refused to help them for the first time ever. And we're sitting here thinking like, WTF? If you need our military help that badly, you're in deep trouble anyhow. :lol

So that (along with the electing of Bush...TWICE) is where most of the recent bitter, tensions come from...and while I don't hate Americans, I won't blame Canadians that choose to do so. There's only so many times you can do shit for people without appreciation before it pisses you off.

Personally I find the hatred of the French distasteful and ridiculous, particularly by Americans...they help them out in the revolution and give 'em the Statue of Liberty as a gift, but where's the appreciation shown for that? Instead it's all HAHAHA THE FRENCH JOBBED TO GERMANY IN FIVE SECONDS or LOL FREEDOM FRIES!! or other such nonsense. Frankly speaking, America has come off as a bunch of fucking ingrates the last few years (the relunctance to receive international aid for Katrina's destruction being another example of this arrogance), while expecting the whole world to bow at their feet because they're #1 in giving world aid. It's pretty fucking annoying. You can't have it both ways.

Of course there's plenty to dislike about Canadians as well...I feel we've gotten too full of ourselves in terms of our "OMG WE'RE SO NICE AND LIBERAL AND NO TERRORIST ACT COULD EVER HAPPEN HERE CAUSE WE DIDN'T GO TO IRAQ, AND YOUR GOVERNMENT'S CORRUPT BUT OURS IS SO GOOD EVEN THOUGH THEY STOLE MY TAX MONEY AND STUFFED IT IN THE JEANS OF THEIR FRIENDS FOR A FUCKING DECADE!! YAH!!" attitude. Shit tends to hit the fan when you become arrogant and naive.
 
Canadians?

Does anybody really care what they think about anything? After all, they're Canadians for pete's sake.....
 
I hate American CUSTOMERS that come into my coffee shop. One of them tried to pay for a coffee with a traveller's cheque, and when I explained that we only took cash, she started speaking in pseudo-babytalk, telling me I had to take it because it was good as gold and just like cash. Then last night, someone's order came to 5.86, and they handed me an American 5 dollar bill. I told them it was worth 5.75, and he said, puzzled, "5.75 canadian or american?"

But then, I hate the Canadian customers too. The ones that order chili combos and are astounded when it comes to almost 6 dollars because it says 5.11 on the menu. As if they have never had to deal with prices not including tax before. God, people are such idiots. Being born in a particular country just tweaks it in different ways.
 
Yeah my mom just got back from Canada and says most people treated her like shit. Plus she saw nespapers that were saying we deserved Katrina or something to that effect. Nationalists are retarded wherever they are.
 
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